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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums***** LIVE feed: #OregonStandoff Ends - Cliven Bundy Jailed - #BundyTeaParty *****
Last edited Thu Feb 11, 2016, 03:15 PM - Edit history (2)
Please post updates as they happen. This thread is intended to be a live blog of the Malheur surrender, scheduled for 8 AM.[center]
The KGW LIVE feed at the roadblock: http://interactive.kgw.com/mobile/breaking-video-2.html
(Might not work in all browsers, Flash player security settings)
LIVE this morning (on edit):
The insanity and lots of praying last night:
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They were screaming "Fuck you" at the FBI. Didn't look promising at that hour, too insane. "You are going to have to kill us or leave."
Meanwhile, we await details of the Bundy arrest last night. I assume it went down in the airport where he had to be unarmed. This according to tweets.
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Wanda Moore ?@WandaKTVZ 20 minutes ago
Sunrise on the refuge and possibly last day of #OregonStandoff
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Dan Zak ?@MrDanZak 34 minutes ago
I listened to four hours of live audio from the #Oregonstandoff last night. It was riveting and ridiculous:
=== Previously in this soap opera ===
#BundyTeaParty Day 30: What you need to know = four holdouts await divine intervention =
Robert 'LaVoy' Finicum shot and killed while charging police, driver says
BLM tab, $1,000,000.00, Cliven Bundy trying to write a letter, priceless.
#RefugeRally chant went from "birds not bullies" to "throw the bums in jail" #Oregonstandoff 43 pics
Happening now: Bundy breaking down fence on refuge #BundyTeaParty
The #BundyBunch was spotted this morning, foraging for snacks.
lamp_shade
(14,813 posts)2naSalit
(86,293 posts)I think the yootoob set up was taken down or disabled. The stuff from last night is on a loop.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Mike Warner ?@MikeKATU
... and another sunrise shot from yesterday. It was amazing enough to require 2 days of photos, at least #LiveOnK2
Lincoln Graves ?@LincolnGraves
#BREAKING @StephenKATU reports witnesses on Bundy's flight from Vegas say SWAT team was at gate upon arrival. #OregonStandoff #LiveOnK2
" target="_blank">LIVE feed from the roadblock.
valerief
(53,235 posts)annabanana
(52,791 posts)He's a sick sob
longship
(40,416 posts)I do not have download here to click through.
Looks good that this will be over today. And the remainders will likely be arrested as well in spite of protestations to the contrary.
I have been following your posts on this. They are damned good.
malaise
(268,609 posts)Like he doesn't understand he's on their property. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah this is fall down funny - he needs mental health care
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)"Hillary is still out there running for president, you fucking asshole." If Hillary stops running for president, they'll say she's still not in jail.
Mendocino
(7,478 posts)imagine the freakout going on with the Bundefuhrer now in custody.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Ethan Walker ?@HVAC_Plumbing_ 14 minutes ago
KATUNews: Booking photo released for Cliven Bundy, father of militia leader Ammon. Updates #liveOnK2
The Bulletin ?@thebulletin 2 minutes ago
Cliven Bundy jailed with his sons. http://j.mp/1LjdGLX #Oregonstandoff #MalheurOccupation
Stephen Mayer ?@StephenKATU 9 hours ago
Cliven Bundy just landed at PDX and was 'detained' by police per this supporter who's here to escort him. #LiveOnK2
Mike Warner ?@MikeKATU
Run for your lives! Wait... Mt. Hood NOT erupting, just an AMAZING sunrise! But it kinda looks like... #LiveOnK2
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Captain Gavin back at the controls and the livestream is back up. Bring on Pedro & live call ins. #OregonStandoff
"How do you know if you are doing what God's want you to do?" Shaun
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Praying and Crying little bitch David Fry
geomon666
(7,512 posts)He keeps feeding these people's delusions and interfering with FBI negotiations.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)for conspiracy.
Mendocino
(7,478 posts)coffee and donuts with her?
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)These people are terrified and deluded, the person talking to them is not helping at all.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)GO BRAVEHEART GO!
polly7
(20,582 posts)The people encouraging them to continue on with their bullshit should be arrested also. People on both sides can be killed ... for what?? It's just crazy.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)How about the leftover snacks?
Oh, and only one side has the option to die here...if anyone David Fry might want to go out in a blaze of glory
polly7
(20,582 posts)Earlier, it was really bad ..... they were absolutely terrified, especially the woman, and it seemed like they were ready for anything but surrender.
It was scary.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Oh, and last night Sandy the stupid woman said she wouldn't come out, without her gun
geomon666
(7,512 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)I heard them even say (paraphrasing) 'fuck their families' when someone on the phone brought it up when things looked really bad for a bit there, that they didn't even care about them.
The male phone guy keeps saying 'you guys are just standing up for your rights - the FBI are acting illegally, etc. etc. He's encouraging them to die, imo. Wtf isn't he there right with them?
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Facts cannot interfere with true belief.
jay ?@xeromachine
more attention-deprived politicians are there, yay! #Oregonstandoff
BevMarie ?@evenbev
#oregonstandoff. Gavin thinks his audience is supporters. Instead it is the greatest PSA against "patriot" movement ever.
David Bates @DavidBWriter
David Fry wants to know why Americans aren't outraged. We are outraged, dude. We're outraged you're still f---ing there. #OregonStandoff
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)I am pretty sure it is teh radiation in their drinking water or something out in the desert states.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)As an anthropologist in my old age, that's a relief.
malaise
(268,609 posts)ReTHUGs
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Tarps and the Lord versus bullet proof glass. But the Lord may be late, they are waiting for Rev. Graham.
Guns are in the vehicles, the vehicles are cleared, there are loaded weapons around that were left by others.
They are walking out unarmed they say.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)OPB News Verified account ?@OPBnews 2 minutes ago
We're updating our story online as developments in the #Oregonstandoff continue: http://ow.ly/Ydn6N
Jared H ?@vw55to07
I can't wait for the #OregonStandoff to stop #occupying my @twitter!
Jane's Insane ?@janesinsane
i don't know if i can listen to Gavin, he's such a damn instigator. imo he has his own agenda- it's NOT for peace
They saw a cross in the flames of the campfire last night. And other signs are aooearing, ... the "Lord telling us we have his love..." "some people think we are fruitcakes ..." but god loves us.
About 10 miles away now. Fiore meeting with Graham's to drive there together, at the FBI office in Burns she thinks, doesn't know where she is. Fiore can't read the signs without her glasses on!
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Enjoy Prison assholes!
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)joe ?@joetothemo
Sean Anderson comparing selves to Jesus in terms of persecution #Oregonstandoff
Mike Walker @New_Narrative
@conradjwilson: This is what I'm seeing at the roadblock outside the refuge #Oregonstandoff
Gavin's feed is trying to keep this going, it seems. KGW8 is playing the Live stream and breaking to their own news team. Three OPS vehicles showed up at roadblock to clear road for coming vehicles.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)lol
These fucking idiots are going to get them killed after all
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Tactical vehicle will approach the barrier. Occupiers will be brought to them in custody after walking out.
Best advice so far, "Go to the bathroom right now, make sure you have enough caffeine, ... " and fill your little tummies with food.
They want to stop at a Denny's on the way to jail. Michele sees a tractor, the realizes it might be too common to be an Oregon landmark. Dufus!
Now they are talking country music stars .....
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,134 posts)geomon666
(7,512 posts)I'm sure the song will sound better in prison.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)PREPARE TO GET ARRESTED ASSHOLES!
Gavin dick should be to for supporting terrorists
flamingdem
(39,308 posts)just got on DU
brooklynite
(94,281 posts)flamingdem
(39,308 posts)brooklynite
(94,281 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Jeanine Gravitt ?@MsMarchHare
#VictoriaSharp's mom is trying to ramp up the hysteria. ARREST HER. #oregonstandoff
Casey Michel ?@cjcmichel
Two of the Nevada State Reps supporting the #Malheur militants are part of Ted Cruz's Nevada team:
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2016/feb/11/oregon-standoff-militia-fbi-negotiations-live-coverage-oregon-malheur-wildlife-refuge #OregonStandoff
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)geomon666
(7,512 posts)Completely delusional and mindfucked from all the religion and rightwing radio.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)It's a little sad. Who has that kind of time?
geomon666
(7,512 posts)Because he's an alcoholic, abusive piece of shit. So he's probably been getting government handouts from the illegal government.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)LOL
Oh, and Fiore is telling them to go pee
brooklynite
(94,281 posts)History in the making.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Wait, shouldn't that be Tea!!
I assume these are tips from the Redneck Bible, How to Surrender chapter.
Quiet_Dem_Mom
(599 posts)Short backstory on the legislation being discussed is a Bundy bill that Fiore requested during this past session. Legal staff told her the bill was unconstitutional. Of course, that doesn't slow her down! Proceed!
http://crooksandliars.com/2015/04/michele-fiore-rips-colleague-over-cliven
Be sure to stick around for the "apology" following the request for a one-minute recess.
As with most of the legislation she introduces, the bill went nowhere. In a R controlled legislature. With a R governor.
Effective!
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,134 posts)brooklynite
(94,281 posts)geomon666
(7,512 posts)What great heroes these dipshits are.
brooklynite
(94,281 posts)"crows are pretty"
This is surreal.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)They really need to focus on something other than their predicament.
Looks like god has that covered, hope she does!
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Arming ourselves and civil disobedience is a good thing according to Fiore.
RKP5637
(67,082 posts)flamingdem
(39,308 posts)flamingdem
(39,308 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)flamingdem
(39,308 posts)Michelle Fiore and spawn wish you a bullet ridden Christmas.
dhill926
(16,301 posts)there's some fucked up DNA in that photo....
Mendocino
(7,478 posts)Is he coming by mule?
Quiet_Dem_Mom
(599 posts)Mendocino
(7,478 posts)The attorney for Ammon Bundy.
brooklynite
(94,281 posts)The four holdouts were transported to an FBI vehicle, which is bringing them to a van that has Graham in it.
Mendocino
(7,478 posts)I've going back and forth to different reports and have missed some of the live stream. I listened to the whole feed last night from beginning until it ran out of steam, a little weary of it now.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)That's why she isn't on the phone any more.
Meanwhile, they are talking about stealing all the land from the feds again.
brooklynite
(94,281 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,414 posts)winstars
(4,219 posts)Mendocino
(7,478 posts)the others, put a fork in them.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)"You do not have to be a lawyer to understand the Constitution" says a person who doesn't understand it.
geomon666
(7,512 posts)Even better if Michele Fiore is doing it too.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)But, I'm not sending her roses for being able to relate to terrorists on their own level.
Right now the FBI is telling everyone to come out one at a time. Sandy is going first ...
geomon666
(7,512 posts)Really?!
nolabear
(41,928 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)What the hell, is this a Hollywood show?
Wait for the director's cue!
MumpusWumpus ?@MumpusWumpus 1 minute ago
Is that from Braveheart? #Oregonstandoff
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,134 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Who is the woman on Gavin's feed?
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,134 posts)Iggo
(47,534 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]
nolabear
(41,928 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)"Looks like they have guns pointed on us."
"Don't put your hand in your pocket when you are walking out."
"They are not even pointing guns at us." Fry.
"Are they being gentle?" "Yeah." Awww... "They're not even pointing guns at us." Ouch. #NarrativeKiller #OregonStandoff
Jeff is going out. Fry left narrating.
nolabear
(41,928 posts)nolabear
(41,928 posts)geomon666
(7,512 posts)Sounds like he's going to get himself killed.
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]
geomon666
(7,512 posts)The dude is breaking down.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)But not by suicide, he wants to be a martyr. Real messiah complex.
wheniwasincongress
(1,307 posts)damnit Dave!
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Worried he will be ignored!
flamingdem
(39,308 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)flamingdem
(39,308 posts)"I will die a free man"
snooper2
(30,151 posts)brooklynite
(94,281 posts)nolabear
(41,928 posts)This could get bad.
avebury
(10,951 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,134 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]
nolabear
(41,928 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Fry is a loon. "This is my fort." "How come they don't call me?"
ebayfool
(3,411 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]
wheniwasincongress
(1,307 posts)NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)David on the other hand wants to snack on hot lead.
geomon666
(7,512 posts)David is the last one.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Maybe they can get on the phone and tell David to get his shit together.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,134 posts)nolabear
(41,928 posts)They're using the right words to talk to him. Get him where he lives. Paul and Silas, don't give them that power.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,134 posts)nolabear
(41,928 posts)me b zola
(19,053 posts)LOL, missing that hotline bling
snooper2
(30,151 posts)me b zola
(19,053 posts)Listening to the inner workings of these people's minds is terrifyingly entertaining.
randome
(34,845 posts)Not sure if this is the correct thing to say because I think Fry sees the rest of his life as non-stop humiliation for this.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]
flamingdem
(39,308 posts)and late night tv appearances.
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]
Kingofalldems
(38,414 posts)This is HUGH!!
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)Bye Bye Davy!
randome
(34,845 posts)It will be a tragic waste if he kills himself.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,134 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Who is the woman on the phone?
valerief
(53,235 posts)But I don't know who she is.
Quiet_Dem_Mom
(599 posts)Here's her Twitter:
https://twitter.com/KrisAnneHall
Constitutnl Attny, Talk & TV Show Host, Author, Teacher: Liberty over Security-Principle over Party-Truth over Personality
randome
(34,845 posts)It's probably good that no one's corrected him on this because you can't really reason with someone this clueless and it would only higlight his stupidity.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]
geomon666
(7,512 posts)Fuck him, put him in the ground with Lavoy.
valerief
(53,235 posts)Oh, Fox News must be so proud.
nolabear
(41,928 posts)Is it just that he's the craziest? Or does he have some particular history?
randome
(34,845 posts)And he failed. And he knows it.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]
nolabear
(41,928 posts)ebayfool
(3,411 posts)nolabear
(41,928 posts)brooklynite
(94,281 posts)...and not with an FBI professional?
geomon666
(7,512 posts)than the FBI.
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]
valerief
(53,235 posts)Grievances.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)brooklynite
(94,281 posts)csziggy
(34,131 posts)I thought he was going to stop talking to them completely, screaming "Don't call me a coward!"
I could tell the people on the line with him were panicked that they were going to get him killed by upsetting him.
Now he's going on about how he is 33 and Christ was 33.
He's not going to get out of this alive, I'm afraid.
flamingdem
(39,308 posts)If he's manic-depressive I think he might end up getting shot. If he's an idiot he'll eventually get tired and give up but that will only be after another few hours go by while he gets the attention he craves.
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]
flamingdem
(39,308 posts)Dang, he was jeebus all along
nolabear
(41,928 posts)His whole world has crumbled. It isn't bipolar. It might be manic but it's the mania of trying to survive in some twisted way when everything he thought he had, however delusional, is gone.
flamingdem
(39,308 posts)I looked up the meaning and it fits:
Hysterical disorders
Hysteria may be a defense mechanism to avoid painful emotions by unconsciously transferring this distress to the body. There may be a symbolic function for this, for example a rape victim may develop paralyzed legs. Symptoms may mimic a number of physical and neurological disorders which must be ruled out before a diagnosis of hysteria is made.
Histrionic personality disorder
According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition (DSM-IV), individuals with histrionic personality possess at least five of the following symptoms or personality features:
a need to be the center of attention
inappropriate, sexually seductive, or provocative behavior while interacting with others
rapidly changing emotions and superficial expression of emotions
vague and impressionistic speech (gives opinions without any supporting details)
easily influenced by others
believes relationships are more intimate than they are.
nolabear
(41,928 posts)That doesn't mean I really know what's going on since I don't know him but he hits all the high points for someone who is talking himself into an escalating hysteria and a potential impulsive act.
nolabear
(41,928 posts)flamingdem
(39,308 posts)He seems to be very difficult to influence.
He's not too bright if he's only worried now about prison rape. I think that points to him having decided to go out in a storm of bullets at one point.
nolabear
(41,928 posts)Brickbat
(19,339 posts)nolabear
(41,928 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Now she called him a coward.
Greg Kielec ?@gkielec
KrisAnne Hall and Gavin Seim running out of biblical scripture to convince David Fry to surrender. #BundyMilitia #OregonStandoff
brooklynite
(94,281 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]
valerief
(53,235 posts)taxes go to WAR and WAR PROFITEERS. And BULLSHIT like this asshole is causing.
nolabear
(41,928 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)deluded assholes.
geomon666
(7,512 posts)He left his family while they were on vacation in Costa Rica to join these idiots.
polly7
(20,582 posts)someone from his past might be able to at least jar him back to reality a bit. He needs help, badly. That lady mentioning the word coward I thought was going to drive him over the edge.
brooklynite
(94,281 posts)He's turning on them.
brooklynite
(94,281 posts)Response to brooklynite (Reply #169)
brooklynite This message was self-deleted by its author.
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)reached for his gun. This woman knows how to lie her ass off.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)My GF is a staunch 2A Libertarain, AR's and all and she is on my side with this & agrees these people are terrorists in the purest form. Absolutely no question about it.
Scary people who are brainwashed just like a cult brainwashes its members.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)Brickbat
(19,339 posts)He's functional, but clearly struggling.
Databuser
(58 posts)David is gettin' colder feet....
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]
nolabear
(41,928 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)nolabear
(41,928 posts)Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)and it would last an entire season.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)But how does one write a stranger than fiction fiction?
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)His biggest fear is getting raped in jail.
brooklynite
(94,281 posts)Brickbat
(19,339 posts)NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)They need a sniper with a tranquilizer dart now.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]
ghostsinthemachine
(3,569 posts)And holy crap is this guy a whack job or what? Really, it bothers me that I live on the same planet that this person does. Poor boy, scared of being raped in prison. Poor baby. Wow. Just fucking wow.
Turned out aobut nine and jsut hopped back on so if someone can nutshell what has been going on all day I'd appreciate it.
csziggy
(34,131 posts)And turning suicidal. The livestream guy and some woman are trying to talk him down.
Synopsis:
http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/02/oregon_standoff_last_4_occupie.html
ghostsinthemachine
(3,569 posts)Poor guy. Bit off more than he can chew. Let's hope he comes out okay and doesn't do something stupid. But becoming a martyr (and yes he will become one if he goes the wrong way here) is a powerful stimulus.
It is sad to see someone so deluded, in so many ways, his mind is so perverted that he cannot think straight.
ghostsinthemachine
(3,569 posts)Who didn't see this one coming? Ha ha ha. Stoner laugh.......
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)"God's in control of this ..." If that were true, wouldn't Pope Francis be here now?
brooklynite
(94,281 posts)...in any case, these amateurs should not be doing the negotiation.
randome
(34,845 posts)If Fry's suicide has any positive consequences, it will be that these nutbags talking to him will be labeled as failures, too.
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brooklynite
(94,281 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)Glitterati
(3,182 posts)What a pathetic human being.
brooklynite
(94,281 posts)Databuser
(58 posts)That pobucker is Triple Z Crazzzy....
IcyPeas
(21,833 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Fry now listening to FBI maybe. "I need promised protection" Fry to phone.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)"You guys killed him." Fry on Christ ...
valerief
(53,235 posts)haele
(12,630 posts)Bible Hub has it this way - 14:26 "But the Helper (other versions say Comforter or Advocate), which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."
Chapter 14 starts out: Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God[a]; believe also in me. 2 My Fathers house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. 4 You know the way to the place where I am going.
That's my guess.
Solly Mack
(90,758 posts)Well, the ones we can hear the best.
valerief
(53,235 posts)Solly Mack
(90,758 posts)They aren't calming him. They are saying contradictory things (laying aside how crazy they, too, sound at times).
Yes, every now and then they tell him he will be a bigger hero if he comes out peacefully, but then when he talks about Jesus dying for his beliefs, they agree how necessary that was.
See...just now..."It's in God's hands" - but the idiot thinks in terms of dying for God and country.
Yes, I know they can't really promise anything since the FBI is going to take over as soon as he gets out. (if he gets out alive)
See..there again...set an example for the rest of us...Christ did...Christ did it by dying.
Feeding his sickness. Not calming him at all.
I know the people are right-wingers too. They shouldn't be allowed to speak with him. Especially since they aren't calming things at all.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)"I'm really confused right now." Fry
Solly Mack
(90,758 posts)It's sick. It's all just plain sick.
nolabear
(41,928 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)Unless the FBI can sneak in and tranq him.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]
polly7
(20,582 posts)Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)someone who can talk some sense into him. They're making him crazier minute by minute.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)flamingdem
(39,308 posts)What are they waiting for.
brooklynite
(94,281 posts)Thanks for clearing that up.
Databuser
(58 posts)Praise Mel Brooks
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)with that. And now without it, he's cracking up. It's actually really sad.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)And want to see him get his comeuppance, my bleeding heart liberal side is kicking in and I'm actually feeling sad for him. He's so obviously ill in the head.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)flailing and lost. He thought he finally found a place to belong, and now it's crumbling around him.
nolabear
(41,928 posts)Yes, he's way off the end of a particular kind of "crazy." But it can't have been a happy life that got him here.
polly7
(20,582 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)Kidding.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]
IcyPeas
(21,833 posts)give him some pot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
is that all it would take to stop this?
Mendocino
(7,478 posts)OY
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Maybe he is having some regrets about the smoking rules in jail
nolabear
(41,928 posts)avebury
(10,951 posts)This guy is a total nut who is totally lost touch of reality. They keep trying to tell him that he could be a voice for the issues but who on earth would listen to someone who is clearly a total nut job? In reality, he cannot help their cause at all.
flamingdem
(39,308 posts)And some Doritos.
IcyPeas
(21,833 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)brooklynite
(94,281 posts)nolabear
(41,928 posts)ebayfool
(3,411 posts)the 'campers' choice. Victoria is the 18 yr old that was in the car when Lavoy was killed.
And I got a hunch that Fry isn't all about the religion. Or mebbe just when it is useful?
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)They are running the YouTube sound live and showing the scene at times, breaking away when something happens there, like Bundy's attorney talking.
randome
(34,845 posts)He'll think you're talking to the FBI!
Yep. He suspects them.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)sniper. And now he's suspicious.
nolabear
(41,928 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)That's scary, his mind is trapped. Nothing they're saying seems to be resonating with him at all.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)what is that?
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]
valerief
(53,235 posts)winstars
(4,219 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]
avebury
(10,951 posts)SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)I'm sure I heard that slightly wrong.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]
valerief
(53,235 posts)SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)They straddle the line between Judaism and Christianity from my understanding.
brooklynite
(94,281 posts)They were playing Bible quotes at him, and now he says he's not a Christian...
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)LannyDeVaney
(1,033 posts)At this point they could probably just fire a blank into the air and he would collapse.
ghostsinthemachine
(3,569 posts)to go out in a blaze of glory.......
brooklynite
(94,281 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)ghostsinthemachine
(3,569 posts)time to take him out via tear gas and an assault.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)Oh yeah that'll be a game changer.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)brooklynite
(94,281 posts)He sounds like he's running on fumes at this point...
Ellipsis
(9,124 posts)NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)The guy is mentally ill and we should make an effort to get him help.
Ellipsis
(9,124 posts)NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)And these amateurs are not doing it well.
Ellipsis
(9,124 posts)brooklynite
(94,281 posts)The Government is suppressing techology
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)ghostsinthemachine
(3,569 posts)Man what a poor deluded fool. Man what a loonatick!
brooklynite
(94,281 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]
randome
(34,845 posts)What a negotiator!
[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]
polly7
(20,582 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)It just weirder and weirder.
boomer55
(592 posts)Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Well, okay, I think we can all agree with him on that.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]
polly7
(20,582 posts)seaotter
(576 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)ghostsinthemachine
(3,569 posts)for a while. Now back to my regular programmed life....
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)KGW News just said Fry was pissed off because they wouldn't let him have marijuana.