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Lodestar

(2,388 posts)
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 02:22 PM Feb 2016

Operation Samson: Israel's Deployment of Nuclear Missiles on Subs from Germany

I have been unable to find any American media references to this story. Why?
Maybe I'm just out of the loop but while I knew Israel had nuclear weapons, I didn't know about these nuclear outfitted subs, did you?

Operation Samson: Israel's Deployment of Nuclear Missiles on Subs from Germany
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/israel-deploys-nuclear-weapons-on-german-built-submarines-a-836784.html



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Operation Samson: Israel's Deployment of Nuclear Missiles on Subs from Germany (Original Post) Lodestar Feb 2016 OP
It has been a "screaming secret" for years nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #1
Well apparently not nearly as interesting to DUers as the post about Lodestar Feb 2016 #2
Trust me, if you want eyes on screen nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #3
Thanks. I will poke around....OR....just move to some country Lodestar Feb 2016 #4
We know nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #5
Well, I must admit I've rarely read anything quite as dry as a budget Lodestar Feb 2016 #6
In my mind budgets are the ultimate political statements nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #7
Makes sense. Follow the money. n/t Lodestar Feb 2016 #8
Speaking of budgets...here's the latest (2017) in U.S. support for Israeli Defense Lodestar Feb 2016 #9
realize that is not even pennies on the dollar nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #10
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
1. It has been a "screaming secret" for years
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 02:23 PM
Feb 2016

and US media (at least at the level of high end policy) has actually discussed this.

This is part of the Samsom Option, essentially MAD in the ME.

Lodestar

(2,388 posts)
2. Well apparently not nearly as interesting to DUers as the post about
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 02:37 PM
Feb 2016

Rubio's hair plugs.

Maybe American media has it right...just entertain. Those Germans are way too
informed for their own good.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
3. Trust me, if you want eyes on screen
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 02:40 PM
Feb 2016

you don't do policy. Take my word on this. We have the proof of concept at RSD. The day I run a policy article, on lets say mass incarceration... it will be a Meh day. I run a piece on fluffy up the tree... break clicks.

Now on a policy level. The Israelis tried to buy LA Class subs from us... we refused to sell them because of what happened with those German Diesels.

If you read the right media (very specialized), you can find this out. Foreign Policy is a good place for example.

Lodestar

(2,388 posts)
4. Thanks. I will poke around....OR....just move to some country
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 02:48 PM
Feb 2016

where the media actually covers the full story of what's happening in the world.
I noticed when traveling around Europe that the news sources are MUCH more
sophisticated and comprehensive (ie - they know they have an audience of adults who insist on being
informed). It was a shock. Much more dumbed down here in the states....news for dummies.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
5. We know
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 02:50 PM
Feb 2016

we are very old fashioned, and run a very local media outlet in San Diego. I have joked with city staff, that the only people who read the damn budget, are the people who wrote it. maybe a member or two of the council, and me. (I mean cover to cover)

Yay, that time is near, when we all get to read the budget.

Lodestar

(2,388 posts)
6. Well, I must admit I've rarely read anything quite as dry as a budget
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 03:09 PM
Feb 2016

unless it was accompanied by an article contesting some aspect of spending.

And anyway....today is the Super Bowl 50!!!

WWIII can wait...

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
7. In my mind budgets are the ultimate political statements
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 03:11 PM
Feb 2016

but they do require a fresh pot of coffee



As to the superbowl, I admit, I am not into sports, well except the game OFF THE FIELD... see Chargers and will they stay or will they go? And should they bend the city to their whims we will see another bankruptcy in 10 years tops.

Lodestar

(2,388 posts)
9. Speaking of budgets...here's the latest (2017) in U.S. support for Israeli Defense
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 11:14 AM
Feb 2016

Pentagon budget requests $146 million in support for Israel defense

The U.S. Defense Department's fiscal year 2017 budget requests $145.8 million in support for Israel, including Iron Dome and other cooperative defense programs, according to Pentagon documents released Tuesday.

The Iron Dome system is designed to defeat short-range missiles and rockets. The United States will also continue to help fund David's Sling, a medium-range missile interceptor, set to be deployed this year, as well as the Arrow ballistic missile interceptor.

The systems are meant to form a multi-level shield that the Israelis are developing with Washington's help as a bulwark against Iran and its allies on the Israeli border.

The U.S. Missile Defense Agency's fiscal 2017 budget request included $103.8 million for Israeli cooperative programs, down from $267.6 million in fiscal 2016, plus $42 million for Iron Dome, down from $55 million in fiscal 2016.

MORE
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-obama-budget-israel-idUSKCN0VJ06Q

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
10. realize that is not even pennies on the dollar
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 02:00 PM
Feb 2016

and a lot of that research is being shared with Raytheon... which finds it cheaper to do it that way than in house.

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