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snot

(10,496 posts)
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 02:27 PM Jan 2016

Google Is Not What It Seems

From https://wikileaks.org/google-is-not-what-it-seems/ :

"In this extract from his new book When Google Met Wikileaks, WikiLeaks' publisher Julian Assange describes the special relationship between Google, Hillary Clinton and the State Department -- and what that means for the future of the internet."

Whatever you think of Assange or Clinton, you need to know more about Google Chairman Eric Schmidt et al., and their connections with the US government et al.

PS: Very happy to read recently that Laura Poitras is working on a program about Assange.
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Google Is Not What It Seems (Original Post) snot Jan 2016 OP
Google EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #1
I've assumed for a long time CJCRANE Jan 2016 #2
PRISM and the Rise of a New Fascism (John Pilger) Octafish Jan 2016 #3
Thx, Octafish! +++! snot Jan 2016 #4
Google is what it appears to be too. I can spy now just likje everyone else. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #5
A balance of power requires a balance of knowledge. snot Jan 2016 #6
We have enough to keep busy forever. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #7
that's part of it; but we also need access to the kinds of info snot Jan 2016 #8

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
1. Google
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 02:34 PM
Jan 2016

Donated millions to the Clinton Foundation.

And.

Hillary's campaign chairman owns a lobbying form which was paid hundreds of thousands to represent Google in DC.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
2. I've assumed for a long time
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 02:54 PM
Jan 2016

that Google, Facebook and Twitter are part of the MIC.

When I stumbled across pro-Caliphate and jihad groups and profiles on Facebook more than three years ago I realized something was up.

I watched the whole Isis phenomenon unfold almost in slow motion, knowing what they were and what they wanted and knowing the authorities would do nothing about it.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
3. PRISM and the Rise of a New Fascism (John Pilger)
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 02:57 PM
Jan 2016
We Are All Witnesses Now

by JOHN PILGER
CounterPunch WEEKEND EDITION JUNE 21-23, 2013

EXCERPT...

Snowden’s revelation that Washington has used Google, Facebook, Apple and other giants of consumer technology to spy on almost everyone is further evidence of a modern form of fascism. Having nurtured oldfashioned fascists around the world – from Latin America to Africa and Indonesia – the genie has risen at home. Understanding this is as important as understanding the criminal abuse of technology.

Fred Branfman, who exposed the “secret” destruction of tiny Laos by the US air force in the 1960s and 1970s, provides an answer to those who still wonder how a liberal African-American president, a professor of constitutional law, can command such lawlessness. “Under Mr Obama, America is still far from being a classic police-state . . .” he wrote. “But no president has done more to create the infrastructure for a possible future police state.” Why? Because Obama understands that his role is not to indulge those who voted for him but to expand “the most powerful institution in the history of the world, one that has killed, wounded or made homeless well over 20 million human beings, mostly civilians, since 1962”.

In the new American cyberpower, only the revolving doors have changed. The director of Google Ideas, Jared Cohen, was an adviser to Condoleezza Rice, the former secretary of state in the Bush administration who lied that Saddam Hussein could attack the US with nuclear weapons. Cohen and Google’s executive chairman, Eric Schmidt – they met in the ruins of Iraq – have co-authored a book, The New Digital Age, endorsed as visionary by the former CIA director Michael Hayden and the war criminals Henry Kissinger and Tony Blair. The authors make no mention of the Prism spying programme, revealed by Snowden, that provides the NSA with access to all of us who use Google.

Control and dominance are the two words that make sense of this. These are exercised by political, economic and military design, of which mass surveillance is an essential part, but also by insinuating propaganda into the public consciousness. This was Edward Bernays’s point. His two most successful PR campaigns convinced Americans that they should go to war in 1917 and persuaded women to smoke in public; cigarettes were “torches of freedom” that would hasten women’s liberation.

CONTINUED...

http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/06/21/prism-and-the-rise-of-a-new-fascism/

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
5. Google is what it appears to be too. I can spy now just likje everyone else.
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 03:15 PM
Jan 2016

The thing about electronic networking, the road goes both ways today. This would blow out George Orwell, that the techie wizards are really the ones who control information, not the political interest actors be it for their political party or the state. Wikileaks and Anon for example, but also I have access to far more information than ever before with unimaginable ease. We all do and can, and that synergy ought to be more than enough to suppress the old fascist tendencies which depend on convincing others to act against self interests. What we want is greater e-literacy for all.

Meanwhile, has anyone figured out if those long "floating point" decimal strings in Google Earth KML files are coded?

snot

(10,496 posts)
6. A balance of power requires a balance of knowledge.
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 03:45 PM
Jan 2016

We don't have anything approaching that now.

I'm not saying we can't use the net to fight back. But it's rapidly being colonized and owned by TPTB, and is not the level playing field it once was.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
7. We have enough to keep busy forever.
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 03:53 PM
Jan 2016

It is a matter of having the skills, organization, etc., to turn information into transparent intelligence benefiting everyone.

snot

(10,496 posts)
8. that's part of it; but we also need access to the kinds of info
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 06:10 PM
Jan 2016

that Wikileaks et al. provide.

Re- the idea that we don't need any more info but can study what we've got forever, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality-based_community :

. . . attributed to Karl Rove[1]):

"The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," . . . . "we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."[2]

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