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Sat Jan 9, 2016, 05:15 PM

"You Just Want Free Stuff."

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Reply "You Just Want Free Stuff." (Original post)
liberalnarb Jan 2016 OP
R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2016 #1
Old Codger Jan 2016 #3
Helen Borg Jan 2016 #11
monmouth4 Jan 2016 #15
HughBeaumont Jan 2016 #2
cheapdate Jan 2016 #5
Enthusiast Jan 2016 #22
Proserpina Jan 2016 #4
Marty McGraw Jan 2016 #16
On the Road Jan 2016 #6
edgineered Jan 2016 #7
Akamai Jan 2016 #10
Akamai Jan 2016 #9
noiretextatique Jan 2016 #18
On the Road Jan 2016 #20
laundry_queen Jan 2016 #24
Half-Century Man Jan 2016 #32
tecelote Jan 2016 #8
NorthCarolina Jan 2016 #28
99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #12
Akamai Jan 2016 #13
Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #14
Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2016 #17
Shandris Jan 2016 #19
yuiyoshida Jan 2016 #21
Dr. Xavier Jan 2016 #23
grahamhgreen Jan 2016 #25
mountain grammy Jan 2016 #26
CommonSenseDemocrat Jan 2016 #27
smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #29
GoneOffShore Jan 2016 #30
JHB Jan 2016 #31

Response to liberalnarb (Original post)

Sat Jan 9, 2016, 05:20 PM

1. Hey, just "cut it out."

 

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Response to R. Daneel Olivaw (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 9, 2016, 05:48 PM

3. Maybe

 

Add a "please" to that would do it..

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Response to Old Codger (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 9, 2016, 06:52 PM

11. Please, cut it out... If necessary...

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Response to R. Daneel Olivaw (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 9, 2016, 07:13 PM

15. Every time I read that I think of Jack Benny..LOL..He said "cut that out" but still.....nt

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Response to liberalnarb (Original post)

Sat Jan 9, 2016, 05:23 PM

2. "Pull yerselves up by the Bootstraps!!" - anyone who never had to.

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Response to HughBeaumont (Reply #2)

Sat Jan 9, 2016, 05:55 PM

5. Win!

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Response to HughBeaumont (Reply #2)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 01:55 AM

22. + a bazillion!

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Response to liberalnarb (Original post)

Sat Jan 9, 2016, 05:55 PM

4. We want what we worked for and you stole

 

You 1%ers have very convenient memories, morals, and tax avoidance attorneys...

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Response to Proserpina (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 9, 2016, 07:41 PM

16. It's tragically comical


how life situates itself to reward such a small minority so lavishly who have this brain disorder. As if anyother profession out in the world means piss to the daily workings of ordinary life. Really makes one look around their entire life and feel ashamed. Sad

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Response to liberalnarb (Original post)

Sat Jan 9, 2016, 05:58 PM

6. It's Interesting to Note

that the cartoonist pretty much admitted Sanders's campaign is a money grab.

Saying Republicans want tax cuts doesn't really affect that point.

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Response to On the Road (Reply #6)

Sat Jan 9, 2016, 06:04 PM

7. Yea, right.

None of the other candidates had even considered that the office of POTUS might influence monetary policy. Well, looks like that cat is out of the bag.

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Response to edgineered (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 9, 2016, 06:42 PM

10. A great Joe Biden quote is this: "A budget is a moral statement.

 

Don't tell me what value. Show me your budget and I will tell you what you value!"

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Response to On the Road (Reply #6)

Sat Jan 9, 2016, 06:37 PM

9. Bernie believes, I think, that if society as a whole wants to help

 

all of its members, even if it requires higher taxes-- especially on the richest, who will suffer significant pain by paying more -- then it is moral and right to do so.

This is not being given "free stuff" but a realization that we are all in this together.

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Response to On the Road (Reply #6)

Sat Jan 9, 2016, 08:05 PM

18. The "point" is an idiotic rw non-sequitur

And clearly, you missed THAT point

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Response to noiretextatique (Reply #18)

Sat Jan 9, 2016, 08:21 PM

20. Rhetorically,

arguing tu quoque or "you too" is considered an admission. I know that's not what the cartoonist intended, but what he wrote suggests that both sides valid arguments.

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Response to On the Road (Reply #20)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 06:38 AM

24. Um lol wut? nt

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Response to On the Road (Reply #6)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 02:36 PM

32. No, It's a counteroffensive in the Class War waged by the rich on us for the last 40 years.

It is an attempt at a Normandy landing.

Be glad we are saying the pillaging stops here, not give it back.

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Response to liberalnarb (Original post)

Sat Jan 9, 2016, 06:07 PM

8. Republicans love socialism as it stands today.

They bitch about food stamps but really food stamps are a gift to Walmart stockholders. Every dollar paid in food stamps is a dollar Walmart does not need to pay it's employees. The poor do not benefit, they work to sustain themselves. Stockholders benefit.

Endless war means endless profits. Our tax dollars are making war mongers rich while we are just creating more threats that demand more war.

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Response to tecelote (Reply #8)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 12:44 PM

28. I've heard Democrats issue the same sentiment.

 

Recall the hub bub here on DU about Bernie's free college tuition plan: "I don't want to pay for Trumps kids to go to Community College". It isn't JUST Republicans that have this mindset.

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Response to liberalnarb (Original post)

Sat Jan 9, 2016, 06:54 PM

12. K&R - Why anyone listens to that bullshit Fat-cat mantra, is beyond me..

 

If we still had a Forth Estate worthy of the name, it would be met with guffaws and
laughed out of the room by the Press.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #12)

Sat Jan 9, 2016, 07:04 PM

13. 99th -- Amen, brother!!!

 

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Response to liberalnarb (Original post)

Sat Jan 9, 2016, 07:04 PM

14. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, liberalnarb.

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Response to liberalnarb (Original post)

Sat Jan 9, 2016, 07:58 PM

17. That pile of cash is funded in part by government subsidies, infrastructure spending, ...

by government subsidies, infrastructure spending, gas taxes, defense spending on over-valued gold plated hammers, paying landowners not to grow crops, bank bailouts, ...., and trillions of dollars the government can't account for.

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Response to liberalnarb (Original post)

Sat Jan 9, 2016, 08:08 PM

19. I..I wouldn't mind a free relocation to a country of my choice. Can I have that Free Stuff?

 

Please? I promise I'll never vote against Republicans again if I can! ...granted, it's because I won't be here to do so, but still!

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Response to liberalnarb (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 01:49 AM

21. HEY!! WTF is wrong with FREE STUFF?

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Response to liberalnarb (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 02:35 AM

23. CLASS WARFARE, CLASS WARFARE, CLASS WARFARE,

CLASS WARFARE, CLASS WARFARE, CLASS WARFARE, CLASS WARFARe, CLASS WARFAre, CLASS WARFare, CLASS WARfare, CLASS WArfare, CLASS Warfare, CLASS warfare, CLASs warfare, CLAss warfare, CLass warfare, Class warfare, ... class ... oh, never mind...

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Response to liberalnarb (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 10:47 AM

25. Not free, Equal.

 

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Response to liberalnarb (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 11:06 AM

26. K&R

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Response to liberalnarb (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 11:33 AM

27. There is zero difference between collecting benefits vs. tax credits

 

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Response to liberalnarb (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 12:52 PM

29. K&R

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Response to liberalnarb (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 01:51 PM

30. For an interesting take on this, one needs look no further than here:

http://www.thenation.com/article/the-dickensian-politics-of-trump-and-his-fellow-ebenezers/


Unfortunately, the poor are still imagined as a burden by today’s political misers.

The debate about how to respond to poverty continues to this day—in much the same language Dickens recalled more than a century and a half ago. The poor are still with us, as are the Scrooges.

We’d best bless them all, with hopes that the ghosts of Past, Present, and Future will again visit those who are in need of some seasonal prodding.

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Response to liberalnarb (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 01:58 PM

31. “People who just want stuff”: 1860

From November 12, 2012:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021803220

“People who just want stuff”: 1860

With all the conservative whining and wailing going on about Obama’s re-election, saying that he won because of “people who just want stuff” and other assorted poutrage, it’s worth noting that this is a trope they’ve been playing for a very, very long time.

Below is a conservative political cartoon from 1860, engraved by Currier and Ives and published in Harper's Magazine.

Back then, when “The Party of Lincoln” was actually running Lincoln for president, it was considered the liberal/left party.

See if you recognize the playbook:


http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2003674590/

"The Republican Party Going to the Right House"

Lincoln rides in on a (fence) rail, carried by Horace Greely (anti-slavery editor of the New York Tribune), leading his followers into a lunatic asylum.
GREELY: "Hold on to me Abe, and we'll go in here by the unanimous consent of the people."
LINCOLN: "Now my friends I'm almost in, and the millennium is going to begin, so ask what you will and it shall be granted."

Younger Woman: "Oh! what a beautiful man he is, I feel a passionate attraction' every time I see his lovely face."
Bearded Man: "I represent the free love element, and expect to have free license to carry out its principles."
Man with trim beard and hat: "I want religion abolished and the book of Mormon made the standard of morality."
Caricatured black man: "De white man hab no rights dat cullud pussons am bound to spect' I want dat understood."
Older woman: "I want womans rights enforced, and man reduced in subjection to her authority."
Scruffy man with bottle: "I want everybody to have a share of everybody elses property."
Barefoot man: "I want a hotel established by government, where people that aint inclined to work, can board free of expense, and be found in rum and tobacco."
Seedy top-hat man: " I want guaranteed to every Citizen the right to examine every other citizen's pockets without interruption by Policemen."
Man at the end: "I want all the stations houses burned up, and the M.P.s killed, so that the bohoys can run with the machine and have a muss when they please."

Let’s go down the list, shall we?:
Supported by "liberal media": Check
Liberals will embark on profligate giveaways to THOSE PEOPLE? Check.
Flighty, emotional, entranced by charisma/celebrity? Check.
People conservatives consider sexual deviants? Check.
People conservatives consider religious deviants? Check (and how ironic, this particular turn).
Grasping minorities after special rights? Check.
"Feminazis"? Check.
There's a vast army of layabouts, terrorists, and outright thieves who want to take your hard-earned stuff? Check, check, check, and check.

A hundred and fifty years later, and they're playing the same effing tune.

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