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Finally, Fucking finally.. (Original Post) busterbrown Jan 2016 OP
Cool! underpants Jan 2016 #1
What a surprise, someone took a shot at the asshole loud mouth randys1 Jan 2016 #2
Which ryan_cats Jan 2016 #3
And on a liberal message board that comment is made, sigh randys1 Jan 2016 #12
Yes!!! Wellstone ruled Jan 2016 #4
ahh, this is a liberal message board after all...thanks randys1 Jan 2016 #13
Well well well. Now there's a name I'd never heard before. Shandris Jan 2016 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author busterbrown Jan 2016 #6
Oh nonononono, I think you misunderstood me. Shandris Jan 2016 #8
Yea... Sorry.. busterbrown Jan 2016 #9
Hey, no problems, we all have those days. Shandris Jan 2016 #10
Its not a new thing. beevul Jan 2016 #7
As a matter of fact.. busterbrown Jan 2016 #11
Remember working on my Gallop in Wellstone ruled Jan 2016 #14
 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
5. Well well well. Now there's a name I'd never heard before.
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 06:11 PM
Jan 2016

Now that I have a name for that style of debating, it is time to render it to the dustbin of history. It answers SO VERY MANY things.

Response to Shandris (Reply #5)

 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
8. Oh nonononono, I think you misunderstood me.
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 06:33 PM
Jan 2016

I meant I'd never heard the NAME. I've seen the tactic a billion times, almost always one of them trying to talk over us with that stuff. I'd always heard it called sophistry the few times a name was given to the strat itself, but this other name seems much more accurate to what I was talking about.

Also, thanks for the link, that's a good vid. He's both slimy and good at it, which is a horrible combination usually reserved for the Priesthood (the political class). I hate how effective it is. Combatting it in the era of the sound bite, the internet literally destroying attention spans, and overwhelming amounts of misinformation will be an effort in extreme exhaustion, if not futility. But it must be done, exposed, and destroyed.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
9. Yea... Sorry..
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 06:47 PM
Jan 2016

Owe you a beer..

I guess I get so incensed at the inability of progressives to stuff something in their mouths..

I think Gish was a professional debater. who defended Creative Design Theory..Traveled around the country and made good money.

 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
10. Hey, no problems, we all have those days.
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 06:50 PM
Jan 2016

Messaging drives me batty too, so I totally understand where you're coming from.

Think I'll spend some more time today looking into this Gish. If nothing else, I'll learn where some theories I'd heard of in passing came from, and a day you learn something new is a productive day.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
11. As a matter of fact..
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 06:53 PM
Jan 2016

Most extreme professional right wing assholes use it..and the use it well, because interviewers and progressives let the lies lie.. They have got to learn to stop the lie immediately and not allow the interview to go on..until it becomes an agree to disagree point..

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
14. Remember working on my Gallop in
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 08:20 PM
Jan 2016

Deca class,got to the Regional' s and tried it,bam,you are disqualified young man. The winner of that Regional became a State Senator years later,and always used the Gallop in interviews and debates. Yes he is a Rethug and one of Walkers Gang.

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