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Thu Dec 31, 2015, 01:25 PM

BREAKING: Carson's campaign manager and communications director resign "effective immediately"

Ben Carson's communications director Doug Watts in statement confirms resignation: 'Yes, Barry Bennett and I have resigned from the Carson campaign effective immediately'

posted on Twitter and on Latest Breaking News a few minutes ago.

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Reply BREAKING: Carson's campaign manager and communications director resign "effective immediately" (Original post)
dixiegrrrrl Dec 2015 OP
Rex Dec 2015 #1
pengu Dec 2015 #2
Sanity Claws Dec 2015 #3
dixiegrrrrl Dec 2015 #4
gratuitous Dec 2015 #5
dixiegrrrrl Dec 2015 #8
Backwoodsrider Dec 2015 #6
dixiegrrrrl Dec 2015 #10
Backwoodsrider Dec 2015 #13
awake Dec 2015 #15
dixiegrrrrl Dec 2015 #18
awake Dec 2015 #20
dixiegrrrrl Dec 2015 #21
awake Dec 2015 #24
dixiegrrrrl Dec 2015 #26
awake Jan 2016 #30
Vinca Dec 2015 #7
WhaTHellsgoingonhere Dec 2015 #16
Vinca Dec 2015 #25
WhaTHellsgoingonhere Dec 2015 #27
TlalocW Dec 2015 #9
UTUSN Dec 2015 #11
Brother Buzz Dec 2015 #12
Gregorian Dec 2015 #14
lpbk2713 Dec 2015 #17
TeamPooka Dec 2015 #19
Xipe Totec Dec 2015 #22
CAG Dec 2015 #23
no_hypocrisy Dec 2015 #28
tabasco Dec 2015 #29

Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 01:26 PM

1. Probably one of the hardest jobs in the world, communicating with Ben Carson.

 

On any level!

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 01:28 PM

2. Carson's been done since the grain pyramid comments

Good riddance. Too bad the rest of their candidates are also awful.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 01:28 PM

3. what does this mean, if anything?

It could mean the campaign doesn't have the money to pay him but I thought I saw an article where Carson got millions recently.
Does it mean infighting in the campaign?

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Response to Sanity Claws (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 01:41 PM

4. Usually, the managers are professionals.....

so they leave a sinking ship as soon as they can in order to find a sounder ship.
Almost always a sign of a doomed campaign.

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Response to Sanity Claws (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 01:48 PM

5. What dixiegrrrl said

In addition, coming as it does on the heels of Ben Carson's and Armstrong Williams' earnest protests last week that there was nothing wrong with the campaign, and everything was going well, it suggests that Carson's surgical skills didn't translate to the political arena quite as seamlessly as he'd like to project.

Curious timing of the announcement on the last day of the year. Maybe they're hoping it will slip through relatively unnoticed in this famously dead week for news. In any case, I think the Carson campaign will be "suspended" some time in the next six weeks.

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 02:03 PM

8. He had already suspended it in Oct. to go on book tour.

Seems pretty obvious he is in the race for money.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 01:48 PM

6. life force has left the campaign

Its like dead man walking when MSM covers Carson now. Can Carson keep all the money donated or is it earmarked for campaign only and he has to give it back if he stops running?

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Response to Backwoodsrider (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 02:05 PM

10. Under Super Pac rules, he can keep all the money.

Does not even have to closely account for it, just categorize spending areas.

On edit:
Carson campaign raises $23 million in 4th quarter
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141300310


FWIW, Palin is STILL collecting on her Super Pac, made over a million last year.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #10)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 02:13 PM

13. thats messed up

And I do not feel sorry for Carson he is probably going to win millions from losing. Trump would probably not be running if this wasn't a cash cow so guess I am not surprised. Oh and you had to bring up Palin?? hehe going to be a great 6 weeks before the primaries!

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #10)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 02:16 PM

15. If Ben's campaign raises the money not a Super Pac can Ben keep the money?

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Response to awake (Reply #15)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 02:21 PM

18. As i understand it, the campaign has much more stringent rules about money.

Which is why Super Pacs were formed.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #18)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 02:28 PM

20. But if the candidate can not be connected to a Supper Pac how does he get the money?

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Response to awake (Reply #20)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 02:42 PM

21. They can get money thru campaign donations.

Go to a candidate's page, you will see a donation request, in prominent place.
Fund raisers, book sales, many ways to get money besides going thru a Super Pac.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #21)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 02:50 PM

24. Your are confusing me

in post 18 you you said "As i understand it, the campaign has much more stringent rules about money" so if it the funds came through the campaign page not a Supper Pac can the candidate still keep the remainder of the funds once he/she drops out?

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Response to awake (Reply #24)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 03:31 PM

26. I think I see the confusion....

I just checked and found this:
State and local governments have their own rules, but those running for federal office — including presidential candidates — must abide by strict FEC guidelines when it comes to their extra campaign money.
They can donate an unlimited amount to a charity or political party. They can also, within limits, make contributions directly to other candidates. A campaign committee can give up to $2000 per election to each candidate. If the committee is converted into a political action committee, the limit jumps to $5000 – but to be established as a PAC, the committee would have to be in existence for six months, receive contributions from 50 donors, and make contributions to five recipients.

What candidates can’t do with leftover money is use it for personal expenses. Retiring federal lawmakers used to be able to pocket extra cash and use it for cars, vacations, clothes, pet grooming, whatever — but that changed in 1989 with the passage of the Ethics Reform Act.
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/leftover-campaign-funds/

Now, as Colbert explained on his show one evening, you can take Super Pac money and give it all to a foundation ( which has been set up for you personally). Then you can spend that foundation money anyway you please, because it no longer belongs to a Super Pac.
So in essence, a Super Pac can be a money laundering scheme.

I also checked on Palin, since I know she is still running her Sarah Pac. She got over a million bucks last year and ony spent 3% of that money on any candidate.

Here is more info on the issue:
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2010/03/the-retirement-announcement-la/

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #26)

Fri Jan 1, 2016, 08:53 AM

30. Thank you for this helpful info

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 01:49 PM

7. Now they have the overwhelming job of rebuilding their reputations.

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Response to Vinca (Reply #7)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 02:19 PM

16. On the contrary. They'll be in highly sought after due to their ability to raise $$$

 

$23 million in 4Q!

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Response to WhaTHellsgoingonhere (Reply #16)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 03:20 PM

25. Doesn't Carson have an arrangement with a group (that is pretty much taking advantage of them)

to raise cash only the contracted firm gets about half the take? I think that's what I read. Just last week there was a story about Carson taking in $8 million and spending $9 million. So the reported $23 million might only shake out to about $12 million for Carson.

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Response to Vinca (Reply #25)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 03:33 PM

27. I would think that only reflects poorly on Carson

 

$23 million is $23 million.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 02:04 PM

9. The constantly living in fear...

... of being stabbed finally was too much for them.

TlalocW

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 02:08 PM

11. Bwah-ha-HAH!1 DUzy for the whole thread!1 n/t

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 02:08 PM

12. It's hard work rearranging deck chairs on a pyramid

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 02:16 PM

14. Back to making brain salad surgery.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 02:20 PM

17. "It's my way or the highway."





"Well OK. Since you put it that way. We have what's left of our careers to consider."


I can imagine how the scenario was played out. I can empathize.

Katherine Harris was also another unapproachable tyrant at the end.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 02:23 PM

19. The only thing left of Carson's campaign is a great SNL parody by Jay Pharoah. nt

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 02:44 PM

22. This is how you stab with a knife, Carson; in the back. nt

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Response to Xipe Totec (Reply #22)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 02:48 PM

23. Sounds like they just "buckled" under

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 03:56 PM

28. What's inexplicable to me is why Carson kept Armstrong Williams.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 03:58 PM

29. Circling the drain.

 

What fascist wannabe dictator will be left standing when the clown car crashes at the off-ramp?

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