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Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:08 PM

I want to make sure this accomplishment doesn't pass by unnoticed and unappreciated.

As most of you know, a week ago we shut down Democratic Underground for a day and a half in order upgrade our web servers. We had been running the site on the same old web servers for about a decade, and they served us well for a long time, but it was clear that they were nearing the end of their useful lives as we experienced ever more frequent glitches and instances of degraded performance. The limitations of our old servers were most obvious during times of especially high traffic that occur during big news events.

The upgrade was many months in the making, but it seems that we pulled it off just in time. Over the weekend we saw a big news double-whammy, with the DNC server breach and the Democratic presidential primary debate both occurring over a two-day period. Democratic Underground is already significantly busier now than it was a year ago but this past weekend really pushed us over the edge -- in fact, measured by number of posts, Saturday was our single busiest day since general election day in 2012.

In the past, this is the type of thing that would have crippled the site, and we would have been forced to systematically remove functionality from the site in order to deal with the stress on our servers and maintain access for our members. But this past weekend we were prepared for the massive spike in traffic -- the new servers held up beautifully without needing to resort to any emergency measures.

I know that people generally don't notice when an emergency fails to happen, so I wanted to make sure that you all were aware of it. I especially want to express my appreciation for all of the behind-the-scenes work that my fellow DU administrator Elad has put into this server upgrade. It was an enormous task with a huge learning curve and many sleepless nights, and it's not over yet. I am grateful for and extremely impressed by all of his hard work.

And while we're on the topic of things that happen behind the scenes that go unnoticed...

Back in October of 2014 Google changed their search algorithm and over the following three months DU saw a 41% decline in search traffic and a related 38% decline in ad revenue. The good news is that we have spent much of 2015 clawing our way back up, and for the first time in a long time we we have seen both our traffic and our ad revenue gradually increasing over the course of an entire year. (Yay!) The bad news is that we started from a significant deficit, and for the first time ever we will not break even for the year.

That means that 2015 is the first year that Democratic Underground cannot afford to pay a year-end bonus to Elad, who worked so hard on the server upgrade, or to EarlG who works just as hard but on more obvious things like the Pic of the Moment and various forum administration duties.

So I am asking you, in the spirit of the season, to please consider re-upping your DU subscription a little early this year or maybe kicking in a couple extra bucks.

Just click here to help out: http://www.democraticunderground.com/star

Thank you, Happy Holidays, and Happy New Year.

David Allen
DU Administrator

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:19 PM

1. You got it!

Thanks, guys.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:22 PM

2. Kick and Rec and Congrats

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:22 PM

3. Done

Happy holidays Admins!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:23 PM

4. K & R

Thank you all.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:24 PM

5. Can't tell you how impressed

I am with the transition. You really do know your stuff - many claim to but not so many actually do. Even when there were slowdowns the site is miles above most others. Glad to kick in!!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:24 PM

6. Is it possible to buy a star for someone else? n/t

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Response to Tanuki (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 02:42 AM

149. it used to be, but I think we can anymore

not sure why

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:25 PM

7. Thank you. I will make an additional contribution immediately after Christmas.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:27 PM

8. Done

Congratulations, and special thanks to Elad for all his hard work.

Happy Holidays and may the Grinch never darken your door buzzard!

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #8)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 05:44 PM

75. I promise not to cast asparagus at your door buzzard.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:32 PM

9. Now that you can handle the bandwidth, invite Manny & Loonix back. nt

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Response to appal_jack (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:38 PM

13. +1000

 

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Response to appal_jack (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:39 PM

15. This would certainly improve the odds of me donating... n/t

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Response to eggplant (Reply #15)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 03:55 PM

45. +1

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Response to appal_jack (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:50 PM

22. Oh - you went there.

Get rid of a couple more, Skinner, and I'll get a star!

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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #22)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 04:05 PM

47. Right... show even more inability to be impartial... and drive more people away. Seriously?

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Response to Bubzer (Reply #47)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 04:23 PM

51. Manny and loonix are impartial?

Seriously?

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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #51)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 04:35 PM

55. Stop being disingenuous. You directed your comment to skinner. Not Manny and loonix.

And you SHOULD know, PPR's are happening in a biased way...
And, if you don't, there are numerous examples of people who've been left untouched, and committed outright violations of the ToS that are not being treated in a consistent fashion. Here's one such example:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=85402

That's the impartiality in question.

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Response to Bubzer (Reply #55)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 05:13 PM

67. PPRs are carried out by the owners.

 

There is no bias. It's simple. Don't encourage others to not vote for the eventual Democratic nominee. I think Skinner has said this more than once. You're counter example does not show encouragement.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #72)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 08:54 PM

111. thanks for the link

but yes it does.

"Nothing there says to vote for Bernie, even if hillary wins the nomination."

This says exactly that - "no matter what happens in the primary"?

"I'm voting Bernie in the general election, no matter what happens in the primary;....I'm tired of having my life served up to the highest bidder and you should be, too."

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #111)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 09:44 PM

116. I'm sorry but no.

"I'm voting Bernie in the general election, no matter what happens in the primary" states his intended actions.

"I'm tired of having my life served up to the highest bidder and you should be, too." states his reasons and suggests others should be tired of having their life served up to the highest bidder as well. He doesn't say anyone should vote for Bernie even if Hillary wins the nomination. It's just not there.

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Response to Bubzer (Reply #116)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 07:14 AM

160. +1

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Response to Bubzer (Reply #116)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 10:14 AM

170. +2

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Response to Post removed (Reply #72)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:58 AM

136. +10,000 nt

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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #51)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 05:38 PM

71. Jury results: No hide, but ouch!

n Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:30 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Oh - you went there.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7465164

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Urging for people to get PPR'ed. Not nice at all.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:45 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Cowardly, nasty grave dancing about people who cannot reply, but not a violation of TOS.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Doesn't meet the standard of the alerter's complaint...
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Yeah - in poor taste. Hide it.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This pro-HRC, anti-Bernie post is totally juvenile, but people need to see it so they know who to put on Ignore. I know I'll put this a-word on Ignore.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Grave dancing is really inappropriate and in bad taste, but not surprising for this poster.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: can't even beiieve this was alerted on. Shame on the alerter

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #51)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 05:45 PM

76. Non sequitur.

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Response to appal_jack (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 03:20 PM

38. YES!!

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Response to appal_jack (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 04:48 PM

62. agreed

You can't have it both ways. Expect more support while you erode the quality and breadth of discussion in here by censoring some of its more vocal contributors for petty and suspicious reasons. I was pissed at the TS of other established posters already. I expected they would be invited back after some arbitrary timeout, maybe a week or two. The Manny expulsion is the final straw, if the admins do not find some way to pave a way for him to return.

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Response to appal_jack (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 04:59 PM

64. Those trolls are gone for good.

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Response to Tarc (Reply #64)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 06:19 PM

85. Yes... that reason for Manny being he refused to toe the line for hillary pre general...

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Response to Tarc (Reply #64)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 08:41 PM

107. And the ones that are making DU suck remain n/t

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Response to hootinholler (Reply #107)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 10:21 AM

173. While the ones who make it great are expelled.

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Response to Bubzer (Reply #173)

Wed Dec 23, 2015, 11:08 AM

210. ?

 

I guess I don't know what makes for great yet.

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Response to appal_jack (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 05:44 PM

74. Yes, and it's ironic that Emmanuel Goldstein was tombstoned.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Goldstein

Goldstein is always the subject of the "Two Minutes Hate", a daily program beginning at 11:00 a.m. at which an image of Goldstein is shown on the telescreen and subjected to extreme contempt.
...
Goldstein serves as a convenient scapegoat for the totalitarian regime in Nineteen Eighty-Four, and justifies its surveillance and elimination of civil liberties.
...



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Response to bananas (Reply #74)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 06:19 PM

84. Indeed, ironic in the extreme.

Good link for those whose memories of Orwell are fuzzy or nonexistent.

Manny liked to stir things up, for sure, but isn't that the point of a discussion board?

My own adopted role here is hew closely and strictly to civil liberties, while also supporting progressive candidates and causes (and/or calling them out when they start stepping upon civil liberties). That generates a few minutes of hate toward me now and then, but I welcome the debate.

Like I said downthread, I value this corner of the web, and appreciate the people who have made it happen.

-app

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Response to appal_jack (Reply #84)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 09:47 AM

164. Only Bernie supporters thought Manny was cute.

The rest of us got very tired of his baiting, non-stop passive-aggressive badgering. And he did indeed violate the TOS when he stated that he would vote for Bernie "no matter who won the primary." That's not shaking things up, it is aiding and abetting the Republican Party.

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Response to Nitram (Reply #164)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 10:16 AM

171. You can only speak for yourself Nitram.

The rest of DU is quite capable of expressing an opinion without your assistance.

Have a great day!

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Response to Bubzer (Reply #171)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 10:19 AM

172. And who are you speaking for, stinker?

Butt out. and have a great day!

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Response to Nitram (Reply #172)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 10:23 AM

174. Name calling now?

I think your a little confused. I speak for myself. I don't try to speak for others here.
I'm also allowed to voice my opinion as I see fit...just as you are.

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Response to Bubzer (Reply #174)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 10:28 AM

177. Name calling? where's your sense of humor. I played off one of your tag lines.

"Fresh stinking" You know, like Rodin's great sculpture, The Stinker? You attack me and then get upset over a little joke. Sounds like there might a a little chip on your shoulder. Actually, you were speaking for everyone on DU if you read your former post. Hubris a little? I was speaking for the non-Bernie supporters. find me one who disagrees with my post and I'll delete it. Have a nice day!

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Response to Nitram (Reply #177)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:06 PM

185. Nope, no passive-aggressive here! n/t

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Response to Nitram (Reply #164)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:45 PM

187. That would be 90% of DUers. Why do you think that is, why is he so popular

here? Because he speaks FOR DEMOCRATS. The 10% minority that had a problem with that are, in the scheme of things, irrelevant. Manny will continue to do what he does best regardless of that minority.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #187)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 02:24 PM

190. If it makes you feel good, Sabrina, just go ahead and keep believeing that. nt

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Response to bananas (Reply #74)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:45 PM

202. Of course, in 1984 "Emmanuel Goldstein" is a fiction, created by & serving the needs of Big Brother.

I enjoyed Manny's stuff, too.. but his choice of username always made me



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Response to appal_jack (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 05:46 PM

78. !!!

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Response to appal_jack (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 05:47 PM

79. You beat me to it. And I'll add:

Fix the TOS: Absolutely no bannings during primary season for saying you won't vote for one of the other candidates if they are nominated." After we have a nominee, then it's perfectly fine to ban someone at that point, if they then state they are voting for someone other than our nominee.

To show how ridiculous enforcing such a TOS as currently exists at DU is, just imagine if this were 'RU' (Republican Underground) with the same TOS in place. With 17 candidates in the running, and the candidates being who they are, I am positive that, prior to the GOP nomination, every single RU member would be saying they absolutely won't vote for at least several of the 17 candidates, and they would mean it. RU would be a ghost town and bankrupt within a month if that TOS was in force there.

First of all, we have an obligation to get the best Democratic presidential candidate into office. For the majority of Dems, that often means using the power of persuasion, (real speech as opposed to money) to present our case for who that is, right up to the second before we have our nominee. Including strongly held beliefs. Just like IRL, punishment should follow the deed, not the belief, or the stating of such belief.

Secondly, that TOS is being unevenly enforced against Sanders' supporters, and noticibly so. It is so blatant, that the OP of a grave-dancing thread about Manny being banned for violating that TOS (pre-nominee) had himself stated in a couple of his prior postings that he will never vote for Sanders should he become the nominee! Yes, THAT blatant.

Thirdly, the owners of DU are hardcore Clinton supporters. (Supposedly, a member of the owner's family was in the very top echelons of Clinton's campaign.) According to the owners, though, 89% of DUers are Sanders supporters. The owners' financial livlihood, and therefore their means of supporting Clinton, financially and otherwise is, at least partially, dependent on us Sanders supporters and the ad revenue and membership fees we generate for them. The optics of selectively banning top level Sanders's supporters (the old tactic of kill off the leaders to cripple and cower the multitudes in their army) for a TOS that is now being enforced before we have a nominee and selectively enforced at that, is, to put it mildly, atrocious.

Fourthly, yesterday, on several threads, I was advocating for the owners of DU to start a "Progressive Underground" forum site for us FDR progressives. Within hours, I was provided with links to a brand new, wonderful site, JackpineRadicals.org, started by others, that was built specifically to give us progressives a welcoming forum to network on. A good portion of my political postings probably will be there going forward.

And lastly, dear jury, if you have read this to the end, I am aware that this post is in violation of TOS. I have been here 10 years without a hide. This is a measured post that speaks to the unfairness, unequal protections and selective enforcment of this site's TOS. We often can not change the things that oppress us, unless we violate the very rules, laws or, in this case, TOSes that are used to enforce oppression. This site is a grain of sand on the scale of things that are important enough to take a stand on. I am taking a stand never-the-less. While I am prepared for a hide, I am asking that you support my stand with a jury nullification.

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Response to JimDandy (Reply #79)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 05:55 PM

80. Manny good points in your post.

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Response to merrily (Reply #80)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 06:25 PM

89. See what you did there.

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Response to JimDandy (Reply #79)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 11:13 PM

127. Why is your post in violation of TOS? You didn't do what Manny did.

You're discussing a possible change to the TOS, and that's how you've framed it. Yes, it is meta, but it's not a thread starting post, and it's not disruptive. So I'm puzzled why you think it's HIDE-worthy.

FWIW, I don;'t agree with a damn word you've said, but you phrased it reasonably respectfully, you didn't troll, chain jerk, mock or insult anyone, and you have a right to your opinion.

Your swipe at the owners was a bit unkind, but I've seen much worse stand the test of a jury. If you got one of those "majority rules" juries you'd happily survive if anyone wanted to knock your post down. I wouldn't vote to hide it--if I served on a jury and it survived, I'd come and tell you I thought you were being unnecessarily rude to the site owners--you are a guest in their home, in essence. This is a PRIVATE website, it's not the public square, and it does have a TOS. When you go to someone's house (even bearing gifts of food for the pot luck) and they ask you to take off your shoes to spare their fine floors and white carpets, you don't walk in with dogshit on your boots, wipe them on the new rugs, and tell your hosts to go to hell, after all.

They set this place up for those of us who LIKE being Democrats. If you don't LIKE being a Democrat, it's wonderful that you have somewhere else to go and enjoy protesting your lot in life. No one cares if that's what you want to do.

And if this site is just a "grain of sand," well, it's amazing how irritating a grain of sand can be if it gets into an eye or some other tiny crevice--your essay does reflect that, you know.

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Response to JimDandy (Reply #79)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 03:11 AM

152. Many good points in your post. n/t

 

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Response to JimDandy (Reply #79)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 09:52 AM

165. The problem with your analogy, Jim, is that there are only 3 Democratic candidates.

If there were 17, allowances would be made for that. But as a DU member it would still be wrong to state that you would not vote for the party's eventual nominee. If you wanted to remain a member.

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Response to JimDandy (Reply #79)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 04:48 PM

198. So let trolls use DU to poison potential voters into not voting all the way through next

summer--or until the nominee is selected? How convenient. It's not my site, but if it was, the answer would be hell f*cking no! You have every right to convince people to throw away their votes, just do it elsewhere.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:33 PM

10. Thanks to all for your hard work.

I"m finally getting a gold star, haven't had one since I was in the first grade many, many years ago.

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Response to justhanginon (Reply #10)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 11:39 PM

128. I had to actually earn mine.

Maybe you're much younger and things have changed.

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Response to DocMac (Reply #128)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 09:33 AM

163. Not understanding the earning thing.

Being as I am 79, unless you are 80 I am probably not younger than you.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:35 PM

11. Well done and much appreciated.






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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:37 PM

12. "DNC server breach"

More like the "DNC server firewall went down". It's firewall was never breached, afaik. That the firewall wasn't there is kind of a big point.

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Response to Babel_17 (Reply #12)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:40 PM

17. +1000

 

Exactly! Vendor screw-up.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:38 PM

14. Done. Thanks for all that you guys do.

did you get a pic of you guys when you finished the big do-over? Like a before and after?

Happy Holidays to you and your families!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:39 PM

16. I kicked in for Marta and I


K&R!

OS

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:41 PM

18. I'll certainly try

although this year is very tight for medical and financial reasons, but DU is one of my (diminishing) few boats of sanity. Later this week I'll have the opportunity to squeeze something out. And I will. It's important for all involved. And I'm not just talking about the site, but all it represents and engenders.

I know you're giving main credit to eLad - and deservingly so - but I also know from being in the industry that there are others that have to be involved and we should at least credit them. Thanks everybody!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:42 PM

19. WELL-DONE, all around!

Not just to Elad (although, dayum, dude! Did you evah think, in 2001 when posting those initial posts, that you'd be replacing DU servers in 2015? You go!) but to you, Dave, and to EarlG, for choosing the "invest in the quality of the user experience" route rather than the "lower user expectations" route.

That is not always an easy choice to make.

Particularly now, in the heat of the primary season, when, to be honest, it's not exactly fun to have to duck the shrapnel from the Scorched Earth brigades of the various factions, it's easy to lose sight of what DU really is, and has been, for so long.

A coupla guys who looked at the chicanery and sleaze of Decision 2000, assessed the capabilities of the Appointed One, looked into the implications for the future, and said "We need a place to talk on the Interwebz."

And then made that place.

And kept it alive, vital, full of provoking thoughts, interesting conflict, community support, and all the other good stuff through three general elections and going into a fourth.

And made it into a way to support your young families, work Elad into the scheme, and walk the line between "community service" and "paying enterprise" in a surprisingly durable way.

I never forget, you invited us in, that cold day in 2001.

And you've been good hosts ever since, to an amazing, wonderful, rowdy, verbose, intelligent, diverse crowd of guests.

Take a bow, alla ya.

appreciatively,
Bright

(P.S. Elad, yer "Christmas bonus" from me is on the way. Wish it could be more.)

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Response to TygrBright (Reply #19)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:57 PM

27. Despite my snark upthread, I agree with every word, TygrBright.

This place is an important corner of the web, and the three guys who make it happen deserve thanks (and some snark too). I just hope that it can stay a true and at least somewhat democratic Democratic discussion forum, never degenerating into a mere echo-chamber.

-app

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Response to appal_jack (Reply #27)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 03:16 PM

35. And I agree with you, too.

We do need to reinstate some of the good folks who've allowed their passion and frustration to push them past what the community standards for "lively discussion" can handle right now.

I think it'll happen, once the trajectory for the primaries is a little further along.

Looking back over many, many contentious times here on DU, I think there's little risk it'll ever be an echo chamber. But staying alert to the possibility, and regarding the user community's evolution in terms of the "sweet spot" of staying Democratic with a big "D" while enabling democratic with a small "d" differences, is important.

amiably,
Bright

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Response to TygrBright (Reply #35)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 04:43 PM

61. +1

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:45 PM

20. K & R

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:49 PM

21. "Google changed their search algorithm and over the following three months DU saw a 41% decline"

 

You don't suppose that could have been aimed at DU and similar sites, do you?

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #21)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 07:24 PM

103. More likely that Google started using secure https for higher rankings

But it's a performance hit and the old DU infrastructure would have melted down.

Be nice to see one day have TLS1.2 and IPv6 here.

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Response to Paulie (Reply #103)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 09:38 PM

115. So that does tend to help corporate sites at the expense of smaller ones

 

like DU. Even if it was unintentional.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:50 PM

23. Done.

And thanks for all you guys do for this site!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:53 PM

24. Done with pleasure.

 

I appreciate all the work you, Skinner, and Mr. Allen and Elad have done. DU is my favorite site to see what's what.

Happy Holidays to all of you and a very Happy New Year.


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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:54 PM

25. It was super smooth,

Thanks much!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:55 PM

26. Well Done!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:57 PM

28. I didn't see a way to designate it was for Christmas. I am not updating my membership

at this time so will appreciate the reminder I get each year at that time.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:59 PM

29. Great work. Thanks and

Happy Holidays

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:59 PM

30. Done.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 03:04 PM

31. Thanks for the upgrade. Will consider a donation...

Wish I could buy enough influence to do away with the jury system.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 03:05 PM

32. Done..

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 03:05 PM

33. An oasis of news and information in a nutty world. Thanks for all

you do.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 03:12 PM

34. Done, and thank you all very much.

It's easy to forget all DU offers isn't really "free."

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 03:18 PM

36. I can see the bottom of long threads again. Thank you, Elad. N.T.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 03:18 PM

37. DU - MannyGoldstien = $0.00. nt

 

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Response to DisgustipatedinCA (Reply #37)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 03:52 PM

44. Yep..

 

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Response to DisgustipatedinCA (Reply #37)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 04:37 PM

57. DU + MannyGoldstein = no gold star.

It cuts both ways...

At least I spelled his name correctly.

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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #57)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 04:43 PM

60. You did spell his name correctly and I didn't. Impressive, given your own screen name.

 

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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #57)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 05:00 PM

65. That's funny, you don't have a gold star now.

So bringing back Manny really wouldn't cost the place anything, huh.

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Response to eggplant (Reply #65)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 05:14 PM

68. I have to hide in a little corner of DU...

to say anything positive about a Democratic candidate - and you want me to pay for the privilege?

I'm pretty sure this is a concern for DU administrators, too. That's why they have rules.

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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #68)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 05:28 PM

70. I know how you feel. Walking on eggshells here constantly.

 

But I urge you to reconsider. IM very HO, things were allowed to slip a bit here in the last few years, but I'm sensing a renewed commitment from the admins.

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Response to MeNMyVolt (Reply #70)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 05:39 PM

73. I am considering. Things may be on the right track.

I have been provoked by these posters who are advocating no financial support unless the TOS violators are returned their posting privileges.

I'm just pointing out it goes both ways!

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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #73)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 06:30 PM

90. Lol. Threatening to pull your nonexistent financial support is kinda funny though. You have to admit

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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #73)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 06:31 PM

91. I'm not advocating that they be returned...

I'm advocating for a reasonable and transparent path for them to return.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/128087267

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Response to Bubzer (Reply #91)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 06:36 PM

95. A path to DU citizenship?

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Response to merrily (Reply #95)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 07:00 PM

98. Hah! Great analogy! Pretty much...yeah.

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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #73)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 07:07 PM

100. No, it doesn't really go both ways. DU can ban a poster without rebating a donation. Posters don't

have a counterpart power.

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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #68)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 06:34 PM

94. Every post Manny made was trolled and alerted on and he paid for the privilege. What makes you so

special?

Besides, you were the one who brought up a gold star. Double standards much?

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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #68)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 11:51 PM

130. Have you said anything positive about Bernie?

Nevermind.

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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #68)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:44 AM

135. One of the reasons that I just bought a star is because

I do appreciate the work they've done down the years, and I am sensing an emphasis on decorum returning to the site.

I've always said we can disagree without being disagreeable.

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Response to MADem (Reply #135)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:44 AM

143. I've always said we can disagree without being disagreeable.

Then why would you say something like this?

They set this place up for those of us who LIKE being Democrats. If you don't LIKE being a Democrat, it's wonderful that you have somewhere else to go and enjoy protesting your lot in life. No one cares if that's what you want to do.


The Democratic party should be a big tent, and it should not be limited to blue dog dems. That is what you are advocating...that anyone who is more progressive than you should not be in the Dem party...they are not welcome because they don't like the long trend of the Democratic party slanting to the right.

If the US started passing laws you thought were wrong, would you suggest leaving it, or would you fight to bring it back to the kind of country you want it to be?

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Response to eggplant (Reply #65)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 06:32 PM

93. Posts are not as popular as Manny's, either.

Last edited Mon Dec 21, 2015, 07:32 PM - Edit history (1)

Anyone can do the one or two line knee jerk posts. A number of screen names leap to mind. A bunch of them used to troll every Op Manny posted.

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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #57)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 06:15 PM

83. MannyGoldstein had a gold star and more than earned his way to post here. His posts were the most

read and rec'd on the entire board, fairly consistently, too.

Rec envy?

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Response to merrily (Reply #83)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 06:32 PM

92. +1

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Response to merrily (Reply #83)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:04 AM

138. That has got to be one of the..

snobbiest things I've read on DU. Everyone earns their way to post here just by following the rules. Even those without a gold star.

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Response to one_voice (Reply #138)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:47 AM

144. snobbiest? how so?

That statement makes no sense.

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Response to hueymahl (Reply #144)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:07 AM

158. Thanks. Puzzling, innit? Lost me, too.

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Response to one_voice (Reply #138)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:06 AM

157. Yeah, I think you're just looking for a reason to insult. I didn't say no one else had earned a

right to post here. I said only that MannyGoldstein had earned a right to post here. However, if you want to know if I think that posters who do little to nothing but insult troll other posters daily earned their right to post here to the extent Manny did, no I don't. If you find that "snobby," I have no idea what to tell you.

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Response to merrily (Reply #83)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 09:56 AM

166. Recced by the Bernista mob. What an honor! nt

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Response to Nitram (Reply #166)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 03:03 PM

191. Yes, two and three hundred recs on some posts. No clue how you understood the issue to be "honor,"

although he probably could not help being flattered sometimes. The claim was that he made a contribution to this board, and, IMO, a much more valuable contribution than posters who post one- or two- line, substance-free snark.

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Response to merrily (Reply #191)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 03:07 PM

192. Balderdash! Poppycock! His posts were pure and unadulterated snark.

Just because they were longer than one or two lines didn't magically give them substance.

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Response to Nitram (Reply #192)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 03:12 PM

193. LOL! His posts had so much more substance than your personal attacks, which have none.

Sorry you were not able to appreciate and enjoy his posts as much as a majority of DU (again returning to the actual issue of contribution to the board).

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Response to merrily (Reply #193)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 03:32 PM

195. Sorry I'm in the minority. How did I attack you personally?

I suspect that if you had been the target of his snark, you might understand how the rest of us in the minority feel.

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Response to Nitram (Reply #195)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 03:43 PM

196. You did not attack me; you posted several personal attacks on Manny.

You were not the target of his snark; your candidate was. I've been the target of plenty of snark here. Just none of it was as well done as Manny's.

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Response to merrily (Reply #196)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 03:58 PM

197. I did? Is there a quick way to search for something like that?

I'd like to see what terrible personal things I wrote.

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Response to DisgustipatedinCA (Reply #37)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 10:29 PM

122. I will be doubling contribution this year. nt

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Response to DisgustipatedinCA (Reply #37)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 10:59 PM

126. I've decided to donate once again, because I appreciated the admins upholding the TOS.

I really appreciate that DU hews to a certain standard.

If I wanted to read anti-Democratic Party screeds, I'd go to DI or Free Republic.

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Response to MADem (Reply #126)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 02:37 AM

146. adios

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Response to Skittles (Reply #146)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 02:58 AM

151. ?

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Response to DisgustipatedinCA (Reply #37)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:50 AM

145. Agreed

I Will never contribute $ as long as the admins continue to act inappropriately. Lets not forget what this is - it is a business, plain and simple. Us minor contributors (me) and major contributors (Manny) who freely give away content deserve better treatment.

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Response to DisgustipatedinCA (Reply #37)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 02:53 AM

150. Agreed.

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Response to DisgustipatedinCA (Reply #37)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 07:59 AM

161. Yep

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 03:20 PM

39. Thanks for the great work. I thought my laptop was dying with some of those really long threads,

there has been a tremendous improvement.

Even when I get mad I still appreciate DU so I just re-upped.

Happy Holidays to all!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 03:27 PM

40. Done.

And that is surprising to learn about the increased traffic volume over the weekend... I sure didn't notice any slowdown or hiccups. Thanks to the entire staff for the server maintenance, the road trips, and the great political cartoons that have really nailed it!

[font size="1"](Now if we could just work on that jury system. )[/font]

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 03:28 PM

41. Okay but I would have appreciated a holiday picture of Grovelbot...



Thank you Skinner, Elad and EarlG!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 03:31 PM

42. I'll do it

I like serving on MIRT if nothing else. As much as I complain, and as uncomfortable as I can get here, it's a habit I do not seem to want to break. I have to wait until after Christmas though. I haven't read this thread, I hope it stays civil for you.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 03:32 PM

43. Thank you for all you guys do! I just joined, but I will contribute a few bucks more.

 

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 04:02 PM

46. I am so grateful for all that you all do; I donated what I could

Sorry.... single mom ....kids in college .... but, I will always do what I can do.

Again, I am extremely grateful to DU

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 04:11 PM

48. Sure will!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 04:12 PM

49. I would donate if I thought my money would benefit ALL Democratic candidates...

 

You do understand, Skinnner, that the large volume of traffic at your site is composed of a majority of Bernie Sanders supporters, right? And some of us really don't appreciate your blind support of a candidate who represents the old corrupt values.

I guess I'll go back to lurking now. I'll take the tombstone with pride!

You were good in your day, DU, RIP.

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Response to Ned Flanders (Reply #49)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 06:22 PM

87. Point taken, but don't flame out after only 116. We could use more posters who have guts.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 04:19 PM

50. Done, with gratitude.

Mahalo Elad, Skinner, EarlG and ohana.

You make the world a better place, and help us connect across vast geographic, political and philosophical distance. Aloha no.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 04:28 PM

52. My son donated for me, as a Holiday present. Thank you, guys!

Thanks for DU, and happy gardening!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 04:32 PM

53. K&R

Done. Thanks for all your hard work. I particularly like Earl G's pic of the moment.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 04:32 PM

54. DU is a lot faster now.

Good work!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 04:37 PM

56. Thank you for your work. Why don't you call the banks the Democrats have made rich

 

over the past 8 years while leaving millions of their victims in poverty, or watched as they burned up their assets and moved down to become one of the working poor?

I bet they know about bonuses.

A former network admin thinking you should ask the people with most of the money if you want some.

Oh yeah - and Happy Holidays to all y'all too.

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Response to jtuck004 (Reply #56)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:12 AM

139. Yeah where is that guy that keeps telling us how much money he has?

He should be able to keep Elad happily employed for quite some time.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 04:42 PM

58. I've noticed the super long threads are loading faster

I really like DU. I will donate on Friday. Good job guys!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 04:43 PM

59. It went faster and with fewer post transfer glitches than I've seen elsewhere

so add my kudos to the team.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 05:04 PM

66. K & R

Happy Holidays!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 05:23 PM

69. K&R...

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 05:45 PM

77. Im a relative newbie around these parts, Skinner

Thank you, Skinner (and the rest of the Admins) and Happy Holidays to you all!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 06:05 PM

81. I will have to grab my new credit card cuz you can't use the old one...it's been cancelled due to

attempted fraud. Sigh.

My cc donation will be made in the next couple of days. It's not THAT early, tho...IIRC, isn't your fund drive in February with the hearts and all?

Does this mean no VALENTINES? Oh, Nooo

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 06:20 PM

86. Will do.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 06:24 PM

88. Is Grovelbot on strike? Berniebot has comfortable shoes!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 06:43 PM

96. It's in the mail, Skinner.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 06:53 PM

97. I'm a paypal kind of guy

and I noticed that my bank was charging me 12 bucks a month for that account so I closed it out and haven't gone to paypal and changed my account numbers yet so it may be a few days before I do but rest assured I'll send in some beanies when I get that done.

Although I get upset sometimes with some of the stuff that is allowed here I still don't want this place to go away and I do appreciate all you three do for us, day in and day out. Thanks

happy holidays
peace


In the years that I've been using paypal I've yet to have a complaint with them so I figure I could close out the account that I had just for paypal and start using the one I use to squirrel away a little cash for hard times in. My VA check actually

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 07:06 PM

99. We get paid Wednesday. We'll do it then.

We literally have $20 to our names until then. Sorry we can't do it sooner! I feel awful for EarlG and Elad. They are amazing guys.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 07:14 PM

101. I just donated

DU has gotten noticeably better over the last couple weeks. It is a great resource.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 07:20 PM

102. I've got $20 in my Paypal account

I try to keep $20 in Paypal for emergencies. I consider this an emergency. I wish it could be more, but $20 is heading your way.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 07:36 PM

104. Great job, guys!

You all rock.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 07:38 PM

105. K & R

Happy holidays and happy new year to you all.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 07:50 PM

106. We should start a DU curse jar.

It's primary season. You'd be rich! And yes, I did notice how well the site was running. It's very fast and clean. I'll kick in a couple of $$. Thanks.

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Response to wildeyed (Reply #106)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 08:44 PM

110. What a great fucking idea!

That shit's a moneymaker.

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Response to hootinholler (Reply #110)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 09:51 PM

119. Fucking A!

Cha-ching! One long sweargasm around here these day.

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Response to wildeyed (Reply #119)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 07:12 AM

159. Ka Ching!

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Response to merrily (Reply #159)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 10:27 AM

176. Money

Ca-ching! Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash.

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Response to wildeyed (Reply #106)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:18 AM

141. I WOULD BE F***ING BROKE

YES INDEED

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Response to Skittles (Reply #141)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 11:38 AM

184. I would be broker than a

gleety-arsed shithawk! Than a rotting douchewaffle! Than a panting queef whistle! Than a fuckwit with splattercake for brains!

Sorry, got carried away. Try to branch out a bit on my curses Indeed!

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Response to Skittles (Reply #141)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 09:07 PM

206. Well I'm Navy trained

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Response to hootinholler (Reply #206)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 09:19 PM

207. "Our hopes that one day we will communicate with dolphins."

"Our fears they will cuss like sailors."

Jack Handey

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Response to Skittles (Reply #207)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 09:24 PM

208. At least I try to be imaginitive.

At your quote.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 08:42 PM

108. DONE.

 

It ain't much cause I'm almost broke - but I hope it helps!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 08:43 PM

109. Just bought my first star.

Thanks for the great site.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 09:02 PM

112. you guys ROCK!!!

THANK YOU, and I will both re-up early and kick in some extra bucks; yes INDEED

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 09:15 PM

113. I appreciate everything you guys do

I know it is not easy.

I am pretty low on funds, but looked around and found a few dollars. I will put them in the mail tomorrow.

I hope all of you and your families have a joyous Holiday.

Sam

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 09:20 PM

114. Thanks for keeping the ride smooth. DU is the first, last place I check for all things 'newsworthy'

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 09:47 PM

117. Kind of feels like "It's a Wonderful Life"..

 

.. and Elad traipsing into the room with a basket full of money and saying "Skinner did it., It was all him. He told people we were in trouble..." Earlg was running the adding machine.

You guys are the best. It's a Wonderful Board.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 09:48 PM

118. Happy Holidays to all of you administrators

and thanks for your hard work

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 10:24 PM

120. Kick. Love seeing the old-timers weigh in,

 

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 10:29 PM

121. Gave what I could

That's a big hit you took in revenue. More than glad to help out.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 10:32 PM

123. Absolutely!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 10:46 PM

124. Not much as we're poor again this year (sigh)

but happy to kick in a little.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #124)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 02:40 AM

148. we give what we can, Le Taz Hot

do NOT feel bad

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Response to Skittles (Reply #148)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 05:12 AM

155. We do indeed.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 10:51 PM

125. My pleasure Skinner & Elad!

K&R

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 11:48 PM

129. If you ever go after blatant trolls

 

No problem.

Which is a shame. I like Elad. He's a good egg. But seriously. People have literally announced they're here to troll, and nothing is done. Because they're trolling in the name of Hillary. No thanks.

(Although, if you let me donate direct to Elad, maybe. Guy does good work).

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Response to Prism (Reply #129)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:30 AM

133. C'mon, man!

While I want Bernie to drive this bus, we cannot let these Republican thugs to push a theocracy in our face. And, they will. I will do all I can do get Bernie the nomination but, I will not allow any Republican to win because I didn't vote.

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Response to Prism (Reply #129)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 02:39 AM

147. do you Hillary/Bernie snipers EVER give it break?

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Response to Prism (Reply #129)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 03:21 AM

154. Link?

I think you're full of it because the self-admitted trolls get booted quickly. Even long timers.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #154)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 11:21 AM

182. I have a link!

 



So, no, no they do not get booted.

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Response to Prism (Reply #129)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 09:57 AM

167. C'mon, Prism, there are Bernie trolls too.

I encounter them frequently.

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Response to Nitram (Reply #167)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 11:23 AM

183. To be fair

 

I'm not here every single day. I sometimes take weeks off at a time. But I've seen enough from here and that other site to know posters are colluding to troll, alert, get people hidden, etc.

They're still here.

So *shrug*

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Response to Prism (Reply #183)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 09:07 PM

205. It's all part of the Primary Drama

It's occured to me that it might be a clickbait strategy. That's pure speculation.

Did you know the poster you referenced had a timeout lifted?

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:02 AM

131. A toast to the lads!


p.s. hint taken

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:25 AM

132. Site is definitely running faster now, with a lot less re-clicks needed

Thanks. Money is tight right now, so I'll resubscribe in April.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:41 AM

134. It is appreciated, what you do.

It's easy to complain when things don't run smoothly, but you have done a superb job down the years.

I bought myself a star to show my appreciation. Happy holidays to you all--keep up the great work.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:02 AM

137. Fantastic job on the smooth upgrade. n/t

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:12 AM

140. Hey DUde, check out my star!

I wouldn't think of experiencing all this quality aggravation for free.

No, really- Thank you so much, DU staff- this is my home, and I really appreciate all you do to keep it available for me.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 03:20 AM

153. A well-earned bit of cash in the hat

What a great job you do - I rely on DU as a primary news source. (Na´ve, you say . . . ?)
Please keep us operating and informed ! Thanks --

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Response to glennberk (Reply #153)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 05:47 AM

156. welcome to DU, glennberk

yes INDEED

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 08:08 AM

162. K&R n/t

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 09:59 AM

168. Kudos on the smooth upgrade...

...and DU really has been a haven over the years.

Unfortunately, lately the owners of the site have let their own political biases spill over into their decisions on who gets banned and who does not. Others on this thread have posted examples of a poster who violated the same TOS that got Manny banned, with not even a slap on the wrist, much less a ban.

I have really appreciated DU over the years. Lately, not so much.

It's great the site is running faster. As your traffic drops off, it should run even faster! Yay!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 10:00 AM

169. Joyous Season and whatnots to all.

Thanks for the upgrade and for many years of nearly ad free babbling.

Still only a penny a post!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 10:25 AM

175. Thank you all for your hard work.

I really enjoy this site and intend to keep my star shining.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 10:46 AM

178. Thanks.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 10:59 AM

179. I appreciate the work the admins do to keep the site up and running

I also understand that the servers were to the point that they needed to be replaced to keep the site running.

I will not be renewing my start, which expires in February for a few different reasons.

1) The purge of Sanders supporters based on statements that they won't vote for Hillary Clinton. I believe this is being done in an arbitrary fashion that is lopsided

2) The childish grave dancing that the admins have allowed to continue after Loonix and Manny were banned. Apparently grade school antics are ok if you support the right candidate.

3) That I will be taking a leave of absence to prevent myself from getting a permanent ban. I will literally find a way to lock myself out of my account.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 11:00 AM

180. Hey, Team! Thanks for all you do to keep DU up and running and meaningful

Just did my part for the cause, and look forward to continued information, updated news, a variety of perspectives, and of course that entertainment value. I raise a glass to those honest brokers of the truth who help keep me sane!

Cheers.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 11:13 AM

181. Keeping this kicked!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:11 PM

186. Great job, and the downtime was shorter than expected.

But as for downgraded performance of the site, I still see lots of knee-jerk, thin-skinned, insecurity-based alerting! Are you SURE there's no patch for that??



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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:57 PM

188. Thank you for letting us post on this site.

DU has saved my sanity more than once since the stolen election of 2000.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 02:23 PM

189. Absolutely. I hope you don't let the sad and mad little detractors get you down.

I find it very ironic that some people continue to use the great resource you have provided to do nothing but complain about DU, you and anyone who does not agree with them. Human nature, I guess.

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Response to UtahLib (Reply #189)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:12 PM

200. agreed

it is slimy

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 03:19 PM

194. K&R

Elad:

Me throwing flowers at Elad:





Happy Everything DU Admins!



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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:11 PM

199. kicking

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:26 PM

201. Elad's comin'

Hide your heart, girl

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 07:21 PM

203. Kick!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 08:10 PM

204. Kick

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Dec 23, 2015, 01:04 AM

209. kick

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