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Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:25 PM

Cal Carpenter (4,959 posts)

Martin Shkreli is a sacrificial wolf

That's what I said to my spouse this morning. I'll use the words of Ian Welsh to expand on the thought, as he is far more eloquent than I:

"Securities arrests don’t happen by accident, and they don’t happen just because someone has committed securities fraud. There is so much securities fraud that practically anyone involved the markets beyond the retail investor level could be charged with something. Many investigations are ongoing at any given time, only a few can or will be prosecuted and prosecuting someone as rich as Shkreli is always a political decision.

This is a message.

Rook the proles as much as you want, but don’t scream it to the world. We have a good thing going here, sonny, and we don’t tolerate people who might wreck it.


Despite his cartoon villain behaviour, Shkrell is far from the worst CEO in America.

Billionaires may do as they please. The only rule is “don’t destroy the game”."

http://www.ianwelsh.net/martin-shkreli-arrested-for-securities-fraud/


I'm happy to see some semblance of justice in this case, but he's like the one cockroach you see vs the hundreds scurrying behind the walls...

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Reply Martin Shkreli is a sacrificial wolf (Original post)
 Cal Carpenter Dec 2015 OP
LineReply Yep. Nobody gives a shit 'til you screw over the 1%.
 HughBeaumont Dec 2015 #1
LineLineNew Reply Right, it's the only reason Madoff got nabbed, he robbed the rich
 Warpy Dec 2015 #26
LineReply While this is most likely true, I'm still delighted that at least Shrkeli
 The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2015 #2
LineReply I both agree and
 H2O Man Dec 2015 #3
LineLineReply It's funny, I added that word at the last second.
 Cal Carpenter Dec 2015 #4
LineLineLineReply The guy is a toxic
 H2O Man Dec 2015 #6
LineLineReply he's a sponge flushed down the toilet
 MisterP Dec 2015 #15
LineLineLineReply !!!!
 H2O Man Dec 2015 #16
LineLineLineLineReply someone else noted he was Hugo from "Devil DOll"
 MisterP Dec 2015 #18
LineLineLineLineLineReply Yikes!
 H2O Man Dec 2015 #19
LineLineLineLineLineNew Reply LOL...I loved Mystery Science Theater! nt
 Oilwellian Dec 2015 #22
LineReply Personally I like the guy. At least he was an honest sociopath.
 Katashi_itto Dec 2015 #5
LineReply you forgot the pic ...
 napkinz Dec 2015 #7
LineLineReply Post removed
 Post removed Dec 2015 #12
LineReply He will be staring in Wall Street 3 this spring
 olddots Dec 2015 #8
LineReply They got Al Capone on tax evasion
 bklyncowgirl Dec 2015 #9
LineReply I think you are right about that. Our government does not
 jwirr Dec 2015 #10
LineReply He was so totally
 2naSalit Dec 2015 #11
LineReply good analysis.
 yurbud Dec 2015 #13
LineReply You could just look at it like this:
 Dorian Gray Dec 2015 #14
LineLineNew Reply He was exposing the game
 Oilwellian Dec 2015 #23
LineLineLineNew Reply Exactly this
 Cal Carpenter Dec 2015 #24
LineReply Corporate Ass Kissing Republicans will point and say Big Government
 B Calm Dec 2015 #17
LineReply He wanted to be one of them. He thought he WAS one of them. They said NOPE.
 stillwaiting Dec 2015 #20
LineNew Reply Yup
 kenfrequed Dec 2015 #21
LineNew Reply My guess ? A powerful Wu-Tang fan was outbid and
 karadax Dec 2015 #25
LineLineNew Reply I hope they get that record from him
 Kalidurga Dec 2015 #27
LineNew Reply Some of these assholes think they're HEROES of Capitalism....
 Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #28
LineNew Reply The perp walk picture brought joy to the season though. ;)
 Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #29
LineLineNew Reply That is true
 Cal Carpenter Dec 2015 #30

Response to Cal Carpenter (Original post)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:28 PM

HughBeaumont (24,461 posts)

1. Yep. Nobody gives a shit 'til you screw over the 1%.

Profiteering from sick poor people = social pariah, but nonetheless legal.

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Thu Dec 17, 2015, 06:56 PM

Warpy (102,765 posts)

26. Right, it's the only reason Madoff got nabbed, he robbed the rich

At least now we know why Shkreli was so desperate for fast money that he did something egregious enough to be noticed by the press. I just wonder how many other drug prices are being jacked up just below the radar for the same reason.

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Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:28 PM

Star Member The Velveteen Ocelot (99,920 posts)

2. While this is most likely true, I'm still delighted that at least Shrkeli

might be getting his just desserts.

Don't harsh my mellow.

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Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:29 PM

H2O Man (67,528 posts)

3. I both agree and

respectfully disagree. While he is a sacrificial turd being flushed by that corrupt system, I must disagree with the word "merely" -- because he is more than that. Much more.

I agree with the rest of the OP. Recommended.

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Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:31 PM

Cal Carpenter (4,959 posts)

4. It's funny, I added that word at the last second.

You have a point, so I may have to remove it....

Thanks for the rec

eta: yeah, given the very dangerous and immediate real-world consequences of his behavior, there is nothing 'mere' about it.

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Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:37 PM

H2O Man (67,528 posts)

6. The guy is a toxic

parasite. His smugness is revoltingly offensive. He really believed that he was "untouchable." But, as the OP makes clear, he offended the wrong people -- who happen to be the only ones who could touch him. And for the exact reasons you noted: his desire to be high profile in an organized criminal enterprise, which demands secrecy.

Your OP is, by far, the most important on DU. Thank you for posting it!

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Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:13 PM

MisterP (23,730 posts)

15. he's a sponge flushed down the toilet

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Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:14 PM

H2O Man (67,528 posts)

16. !!!!

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Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:23 PM

MisterP (23,730 posts)

18. someone else noted he was Hugo from "Devil DOll"

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Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:26 PM

H2O Man (67,528 posts)

19. Yikes!

I will admit that when I saw this fellow's smug grin for the first time on television, it reminded me of the type of kid that the young and pre-nonviolent H2O Man would feel compelled to swat in junior high school.

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Thu Dec 17, 2015, 05:11 PM

Oilwellian (12,647 posts)

22. LOL...I loved Mystery Science Theater! nt

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Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:36 PM

Katashi_itto (10,175 posts)

5. Personally I like the guy. At least he was an honest sociopath.

 

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Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:42 PM

napkinz (17,194 posts)

7. you forgot the pic ...

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Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:49 PM

olddots (10,237 posts)

8. He will be staring in Wall Street 3 this spring

 

after a month at Club Fed .

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Thu Dec 17, 2015, 02:10 PM

bklyncowgirl (7,960 posts)

9. They got Al Capone on tax evasion

The problem is that what he did with the drug prices while reprehensible was not illegal. I do agree that he's a sacrifice to divert the masses, that would be you and me, I am happy to see him go down.

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Thu Dec 17, 2015, 02:14 PM

jwirr (39,215 posts)

10. I think you are right about that. Our government does not

want to interfere with commerce so they are not going after regulations that would stop this totally but they need to send a message - cut that out - and the easiest way to do it is to prosecute one guy everyone dislikes.

I look for this to happen regarding the hatred toward American Muslims also. They will need to send a message that this discrimination and hatred will not be tolerated.

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Thu Dec 17, 2015, 02:57 PM

Star Member 2naSalit (58,459 posts)

11. He was so totally

smug while spilling the beans.. of course he deserve to be the one selected to do a public per-walk so that business can go on as usual behind the "scenes".

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Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:00 PM

yurbud (39,405 posts)

13. good analysis.

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Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:09 PM

Star Member Dorian Gray (12,067 posts)

14. You could just look at it like this:

He's so disgusting that even the 1% find him distasteful and don't want to protect him anymore.

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Thu Dec 17, 2015, 05:15 PM

Oilwellian (12,647 posts)

23. He was exposing the game

They can always do as they wish. They just can't be brazen about it.

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Thu Dec 17, 2015, 06:47 PM

Cal Carpenter (4,959 posts)

24. Exactly this

He was too public about it. But comparable things happen all the time and stay behind the scenes.

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Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:21 PM

B Calm (28,762 posts)

17. Corporate Ass Kissing Republicans will point and say Big Government

 

punishing job creators.

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Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:31 PM

stillwaiting (3,795 posts)

20. He wanted to be one of them. He thought he WAS one of them. They said NOPE.

Richly deserved.

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Thu Dec 17, 2015, 04:26 PM

kenfrequed (7,865 posts)

21. Yup

It is like Martha Stewart or Bernie Madoff. They have to prosecute someone once or twice a decade to inspire condidence in a system that does not work.

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Thu Dec 17, 2015, 06:52 PM

karadax (284 posts)

25. My guess ? A powerful Wu-Tang fan was outbid and

Got revenge. Music transcends.

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Thu Dec 17, 2015, 06:59 PM

Kalidurga (14,177 posts)

27. I hope they get that record from him

and play it on all the news networks.

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Thu Dec 17, 2015, 08:03 PM

Spitfire of ATJ (32,723 posts)

28. Some of these assholes think they're HEROES of Capitalism....

 

Some even believe the public thinks that way too.

Seriously.

Like we're singing songs in praise of them.

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Thu Dec 17, 2015, 08:08 PM

Star Member Starry Messenger (32,334 posts)

29. The perp walk picture brought joy to the season though. ;)

Too bad they couldn't arrest one a day before Xmas, a kind of advent calendar!

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Thu Dec 17, 2015, 10:50 PM

Cal Carpenter (4,959 posts)

30. That is true

I sure would love to see a month full of perp walks for asshole wealth-stealing capitalist pigs in my lifetime

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