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Wed Dec 9, 2015, 09:48 PM

Bernie Sanders Just Now on Facebook: "I'll Tell You What Does Worry Me..."

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I'll tell you what does worry me. Ever since Trump has been opening his mouth, you're seeing all these bitter people, latent racists who are becoming emboldened. You're seeing some ugly stuff happening around this country.

What we have got to do immediately is to say that racism and xenophobia are totally unacceptable and we will stand with Muslims and undocumented people in this country. We can't allow racism and xenophobia to gain traction.

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Reply Bernie Sanders Just Now on Facebook: "I'll Tell You What Does Worry Me..." (Original post)
Hissyspit Dec 2015 OP
99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #1
ladyVet Dec 2015 #3
pnwmom Dec 2015 #2
Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #4
joshcryer Dec 2015 #5
Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #7
joshcryer Dec 2015 #8
raouldukelives Dec 2015 #6
Bobbie Jo Dec 2015 #9

Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Wed Dec 9, 2015, 09:52 PM

1. Thank you Bernie. We need you in the WH asap. n/t

 

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 10, 2015, 09:08 AM

3. Agreed. Bernie, you're our only hope! nt

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Thu Dec 10, 2015, 02:00 AM

2. Does he regret his vote to support the hate-group called the Minutemen then?

http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Bernie_Sanders_Immigration.htm


Voted YES on preventing tipping off Mexicans about Minuteman Project.

Voting YES on this amendment supports the Minuteman Project, a group of volunteers who have taken on surveillance of the Mexican border for illegal immigrants. The amendment states that US funds will not be used to tell the Mexican government about the whereabouts of the Minuteman Project volunteers. Proponents of the Minuteman Project say that they are volunteer citizens doing what the federal government SHOULD be doing, but has failed to do. Opponents of the Minuteman Project say that they are vigilantes at best and anti-Mexican racists at worst. The amendment states:
None of the funds made available by this Act may be used to provide a foreign government information relating to the activities of an organized volunteer civilian action group, operating in the State of California, Texas, New Mexico, or Arizona, unless required by international treaty.
The amendment's sponsor said on its behalf:
What this amendment does is it clarifies Congress' position on a Border Patrol practice or a practice of the US Government that tips off illegal immigrants as to where citizen patrols may be located.
As a response to the lawlessness along the Mexican border, a group has sprung up called the Minutemen Project, and the Minutemen Project is definitely not politically correct in Washington DC. However, they filled a void which the government was unable to fill.
There are over 7,000 volunteers in the Minutemen organization, and their help has been productive and good.
What my amendment does is simply says that the U.S. Government cannot tip off the Mexican officials as to where these folks are located. Plain and simple, nothing fancy about it. I am sure the Border Patrol will say, oh, no, we are not doing that, and yet one of the Web pages of the Secretary of Mexico had the information very explicit, and we just do not believe that is a good practice.
Reference: Department of Homeland Security appropriations; Bill HR 5441 Amendment 968 ; vote number 2006-224 on Jun 6, 2006





http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2014/0430/What-happened-to-Minuteman-Project-It-s-still-roiling-immigration-reform

TUCSON, ARIZ. In just a few years, perhaps the most visible civilian attempt to stop illegal immigration has all but disappeared amid the changing dynamics of the debate.

A little less than a decade ago, the Minuteman Project and the copycats it spawned arrived at the Arizona border with binoculars and American flags, vowing to defend the country from what they described as an invasion. At their height, the Minutemen were the face of a conservative insurgency that would later lend its energy to the emergence of the tea party.

To like-minded Americans, they were patriots. To critics, they were dangerous vigilantes.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 10, 2015, 09:22 AM

4. You should ask the 76 Democrats who voted for that amendment also.

 

I love these observations about House votes, as if Bernie had written and voted the bill into law all by his lonesome. It's like all the OP's about the Crime Bill that say 'Bernie voted for Mass Incarceration' instead of saying he voted with the vast majority of Democrats on a bill promoted by Bill Clinton with political help from Hillary Clinton, a bill that had just 2 Democratic No votes in the Senate, where Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Biden, Boxer and the rest all voted yes, or as Hillary supporters put it 'They joined Bernie's demand for mass incarceration'.

It's just disingenuous out of people who insist that a Senate vote for war in Iraq is a minor thing unworthy of mention to present other votes out of context. It's also interesting how some of you wail that Bernie is not a Democrat then attack him for voting with the Democrats. Cake and eat it too.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 10, 2015, 09:29 AM

5. +1

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 10, 2015, 09:39 AM

7. This characterization 'vote to support the hate-group called the Minutemen' is aimed at 76 Democrats

 

and it is a nasty assertion. The intensity of that verbiage makes it curious that Maxine Waters, progressive from CA which is one of the States involved, did not even bother to vote. Among the others who did not see this as worth casting a vote on either way, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz. So 76 Democrats for it, 106 against is and apathy at both ends of the Democratic spectrum. Hard to believe that Waters would skip a 'vote to support the hate-group called the Minutemen' or that 76 Democrats would vote to support a hate-group.

Of course the other poster wants all of that dripping off of Bernie, but why did Debbie avoid taking a stand if this was support for a hate-group?

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #7)

Thu Dec 10, 2015, 10:03 AM

8. The Kingston amendment was about funding FOREIGN governments...

...about information regarding the "Minutemen" (a "volunteer civilian action group". In other words, it barred funding foreign governments for information relating to the 1st amendment rights of US citizens.

As a legislator I would've voted for it out of sheer principle (you can arrest people getting foreign funds doing illegal activities on a host of other laws). But as a citizen I don't have a problem with Sanders vote for first amendment protections.

In the end the entire vote was political fodder because, factually, USAID would not in fact fund foreign governments to go after US citizens.

Did Sanders vote the right way? I have no doubt he was representing his constituents. Big deal.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Thu Dec 10, 2015, 09:39 AM

6. K&R Those who benefit those with the most, terrorize those with the least.

Inadvertently or not, it is happening all around us. If you can't see the hate yearning to be freed, you probably don't live close to the least.

Our democracy is being reshaped and retooled for the New Crusades. All in the name of and to meet and exceed the desires of multi-national corporations, shareholders and their expected profits.

Profits which will always outweigh the needs of the least. Of the poor and disabled. Accumulated wealth always working behind the scenes to assure nothing that could affect the future profitability of themselves is ever in jeopardy.

The beatings will continue until people develop a conscience, a sense of responsibility towards others and this world and decide they won't.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Thu Dec 10, 2015, 11:49 AM

9. Locking

Please feel free to post in GDP.

Thanks!

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