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SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 11:10 PM Dec 2015

Who else remembers when the Catholics were "radicalized"?

They set off bombs all over the place and lots of people were scared/injured/killed..

Did the UK ban Catholicism?

Were they furious at the US (many politicians) for supporting the Catholic terrorism?

Radicalism /fanaticism in religion is nothing new and only time " cures" the problem

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Who else remembers when the Catholics were "radicalized"? (Original Post) SoCalDem Dec 2015 OP
Good ol Irish Republican Army. LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #1
And Manifestor_of_Light Dec 2015 #2
Remember, remember! Revanchist Dec 2015 #3
That was about getting the British out of Northern Ireland. Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #4
In Northern Ireland, the battle lines were pretty much along religious lines. Archae Dec 2015 #6
But the dispute had nothing to do with their respective religions. Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #7
True. The respective faiths were just an excuse, among others. Archae Dec 2015 #8
Crusades or butchering the Templars? Photographer Dec 2015 #5
technically it was latae setentiae the nanosecond you decided to join the IRA MisterP Dec 2015 #9
 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
2. And
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 12:25 AM
Dec 2015

the movie In The Name of the Father, starring Daniel Day-Lewis and Emma Thompson is about the Guildford Four bombing of a pub. The government had withheld exculpatory evidence. And allegedly the cops tortured them to get confessions. They were convicted in 1975. Later they were exonerated and released from prison after serving 15 years.

At the end of the movie it states what happened to the perps. Turns out that one of Bobby Kennedy's daughters married Paul Hill, one of the Guildford Four. The Guildford Four were not part of the provisional IRA. I thought that was interesting about the Irish Catholic connection with the Kennedys.


Revanchist

(1,375 posts)
3. Remember, remember!
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 12:40 AM
Dec 2015

Remember, remember!
The fifth of November,
The Gunpowder treason and plot;
I know of no reason
Why the Gunpowder treason
Should ever be forgot!
Guy Fawkes and his companions
Did the scheme contrive,
To blow the King and Parliament
All up alive.
Threescore barrels, laid below,
To prove old England's overthrow.
But, by God's providence, him they catch,
With a dark lantern, lighting a match!
A stick and a stake
For King James's sake!
If you won't give me one,
I'll take two,
The better for me,
And the worse for you.
A rope, a rope, to hang the Pope,
A penn'orth of cheese to choke him,
A pint of beer to wash it down,
And a jolly good fire to burn him.
Holloa, boys! holloa, boys! make the bells ring!
Holloa, boys! holloa boys! God save the King!
Hip, hip, hooor-r-r-ray!

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
4. That was about getting the British out of Northern Ireland.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 12:55 AM
Dec 2015

It was not a quarrel about transsubstantiation, the authority of the Pope, or really anything to do with religion. If the UK had happened to be a Catholic country the Irish still would not have welcomed British rule.

Archae

(46,326 posts)
6. In Northern Ireland, the battle lines were pretty much along religious lines.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 12:59 AM
Dec 2015

Pro-British were protestant, and anti-British were Catholic.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
7. But the dispute had nothing to do with their respective religions.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 01:01 AM
Dec 2015

That's like saying that Russia fought with Germany over Eastern Orthodoxism versus Protestantism.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
9. technically it was latae setentiae the nanosecond you decided to join the IRA
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 01:17 AM
Dec 2015

but NYC and Southie Catholics were way more pro-IRA than any of its actual members ...
(and Irish peace took long, hard work, and a lot of innocent and less-than-innocent blood)

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