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HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 07:36 PM Dec 2015

Paul Ryan Pushes Mental Health Reform Instead Of Gun Laws After Colorado Shooting



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/paul-ryan-mental-health-guns_565dc89de4b08e945fec9746

Paul Ryan Pushes Mental Health Reform Instead Of Gun Laws After Colorado Shooting

WASHINGTON -- The priority of Congress after the deadly shooting at a Planned Parenthood in Colorado over Thanksgiving weekend should be to fix the nation’s mental health system, House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) argued Tuesday.

Speaking to reporters after meeting with his members, Ryan offered his condolences to the families of the three people killed and nine injured in Colorado Springs on Friday, when a shooter opened fire inside the women's health clinic.

“What happened is appalling, and justice should be swift,” Ryan said. “Clearly we can do more.”

As far as what more Congress could do, Ryan was not definitive, but he did not call for looking at some of the more popular measures proposed in Congress, such as beefing up background checks.

He said the “common denominator” in all the nation’s frequent mass shootings is mental illness.
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Paul Ryan Pushes Mental Health Reform Instead Of Gun Laws After Colorado Shooting (Original Post) HereSince1628 Dec 2015 OP
Our lack of reasonable firearm control laws is another symptom of our national mental health issues. -none Dec 2015 #1
Soooo he admits that OriginalGeek Dec 2015 #2
In other words maxsolomon Dec 2015 #3
Well yes, and no... HereSince1628 Dec 2015 #7
Our plan is to introduce another bill to repeal ObamaCare. ( n/t ) Make7 Dec 2015 #4
I say call him on it! Fix the mental health care system broken by Ronald Reagan! icymist Dec 2015 #5
Exactly, we can do both etherealtruth Dec 2015 #6
I agree. I'm sure his 'solution' will involve no money though. denverbill Dec 2015 #12
And he would have to admit that his hero/god Reagan broke it in the first place. icymist Dec 2015 #17
so, maybe we should send psychiatrists into syria? spanone Dec 2015 #8
Sadly, many DU gunners agree with him. Kingofalldems Dec 2015 #9
I agree with him...as they say... Kang Colby Dec 2015 #11
Well of course. That's the nature of group think, isn't it? HereSince1628 Dec 2015 #15
I think improving mental health services in this country is to the benefit of all. Kang Colby Dec 2015 #16
How certain are we more stigma will be balanced by a good social result re mass shootings? HereSince1628 Dec 2015 #18
So I wonder if he will propose a psychiatric evaluation before one can purchase a LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #10
So he wants prospective gun-owners to have their heads examined? Iggo Dec 2015 #13
No, he wants to 'reform' the mental health industry. HereSince1628 Dec 2015 #14

-none

(1,884 posts)
1. Our lack of reasonable firearm control laws is another symptom of our national mental health issues.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 07:39 PM
Dec 2015

They are related.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
7. Well yes, and no...
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 07:47 PM
Dec 2015

Yes, nothing will be done to really address the problem of preventing radicalized shooters, either through gun/ammo sale or FCC limiting violence inciting speech.

But, no, they'll do more than jacksh*t. especially when it comes to creating more prejudice and discrimination against the mentally ill.


denverbill

(11,489 posts)
12. I agree. I'm sure his 'solution' will involve no money though.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 07:57 PM
Dec 2015

Fixing the mental health care system would cost billions annually and the money would have to come from somewhere. I'd suggest higher taxes on guns and ammo, but he'll probably suggest taxing unions or abortions.

icymist

(15,888 posts)
17. And he would have to admit that his hero/god Reagan broke it in the first place.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 08:47 PM
Dec 2015

I'm sure that he'll try and say that Clinton broke the mental healthcare system somehow.

Still, we should call him on it. Show him what that new House Leadership position entails. Especially when he starts talking about what the Republicans broke. He's talking like he's still running for VP.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
15. Well of course. That's the nature of group think, isn't it?
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 08:08 PM
Dec 2015

Last edited Tue Dec 1, 2015, 08:57 PM - Edit history (1)

People always construct problems so that the problem is outside the interests of the group to which said people belong.

 

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)
16. I think improving mental health services in this country is to the benefit of all.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 08:31 PM
Dec 2015

I do not agree that mental illness is the culprit in even the majority of violent crimes. The mentally ill are more likely to be the victims of violent crime than the perpetrator.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
18. How certain are we more stigma will be balanced by a good social result re mass shootings?
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 09:09 PM
Dec 2015

Is there even any way to honestly know that before federal actions institutionalize more fear of the mentally illness.



LiberalArkie

(15,703 posts)
10. So I wonder if he will propose a psychiatric evaluation before one can purchase a
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 07:54 PM
Dec 2015

weapon? I think that would work out very well.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
14. No, he wants to 'reform' the mental health industry.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 08:03 PM
Dec 2015

imagine what the republicans will do with that

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