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Stargazer99

(2,582 posts)
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 04:09 PM Dec 2015

I refuse to honor the Plege to the American Flag

We all worked, father, mother and children-we could not afford medical care, dental care. My adult daughter died from lack of medical care-oh yes, she worked...their dental problems were many in adult hood-they all worked for "the man". It is a crappy country that when you work your basic human needs cannot be met because those with money refuse to be responsible to the nation as a whole. I'm sick of conservatives as I see the "I got mine to hell with you".
I see the children of the poor and middle class on the front lines of our wars. You with money have your children at home because they are not forced to work to survive like the low income population. I have lost respect for this nation because of YOU. And if you want to dis me trying living as a low income person: no medical, no dental, no decent childcare. If your country's monetary system cannot care for all of its citizens-it is a FAILURE and so are you that support that system. Slavery was supposed to be done and over with....income slavery is no different.

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merrily

(45,251 posts)
2. Everyone in the richest country in the world should have food and shelter.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 04:15 PM
Dec 2015

I never understood the pledge anyway. The flag comes before the nation. Wouldn't it make more sense to pledge allegiance to your country, period?

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
7. I agree, I always felt awkward doing it, even as a child.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 04:32 PM
Dec 2015

Now it just seem sheep-like and ridiculous.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
5. I pledge allegience to it - but towards the actual ideals it stands for not for how it has
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 04:20 PM
Dec 2015

been corrupted these days.

Bryant

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
6. I can't honestly remember the last time I've been in circumstances which dictated recitation...
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 04:28 PM
Dec 2015

I can't honestly remember the last time I've been in circumstances which dictated recitation of the pledge. A handful of times in various Texas grade schools in the early-mid seventies, but even then it was only special occasions and never a daily obligation.

On the other hand, the older I get the less validity I place in imaginary borders anyways, as they seem to serve one purpose above all others-- to pretend "they" are them and "we" are us.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
8. Allegiance is my role in the consent of the governed.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 04:35 PM
Dec 2015

In return for that loyalty, I insist on protection, respect and consideration of my welfare.

I might not approve of the pace or degree the government does it's job, but withdrawal of that consent looks like Le Terreur, and I'm not ready to go there yet.

qwlauren35

(6,145 posts)
9. The pledge is very dear to me.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 04:36 PM
Dec 2015

To me, it is not a promise, but an ideal, and to be honest, I'm happy to throw it at people.

Liberty and Justice for All. I like the ring of it.

One nation, indivisible. Take that, Texas!

The US has been pretty good to me. I do not spit in its face. I work within to make it better.

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