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Tue Nov 10, 2015, 09:25 AM

America-We're Number One?

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Reply America-We're Number One? (Original post)
kpete Nov 2015 OP
mymomwasright Nov 2015 #1
ruffburr Nov 2015 #2
EX500rider Nov 2015 #18
maxsolomon Nov 2015 #20
Gothmog Nov 2015 #3
dmosh42 Nov 2015 #4
yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #5
Kingofalldems Nov 2015 #8
Scuba Nov 2015 #9
deutsey Nov 2015 #12
hifiguy Nov 2015 #21
winter is coming Nov 2015 #6
marmar Nov 2015 #7
KG Nov 2015 #10
deutsey Nov 2015 #11
Oneironaut Nov 2015 #13
olddots Nov 2015 #14
Ron Obvious Nov 2015 #15
Cyrano Nov 2015 #16
clarice Nov 2015 #17
maxsolomon Nov 2015 #19

Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 09:30 AM

1. Murka' or Murica!

have to spell it right, see? Then it definitely matches with numbers!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 09:36 AM

2. Ain't it the Truth

#1 in corrupt politicians #1 in corporate collusion #1 in vote rigging and gerrymandering #1 in mass murder by shootings #1 in corrupt judicial system. America is #1 alright, in all the wrong ways

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Response to ruffburr (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 06:06 PM

18. I doubt any of those things are true..

Most corrupt countries:
Somalia
North Korea
Sudan
Afghanistan
(the US is in the top 20 least corrupt)
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/12/02/367815515/which-countries-are-the-most-corrupt

Corporate collusion? Not sure if that is even measured...

#1 in vote rigging......not even close.
A recently published study by scholars who compare the functioning of democracies around the world found that the United States ranks 26th out of 66 democracies studied in the integrity of its election processes.
https://www.minnpost.com/eric-black-ink/2014/11/study-ranks-united-states-26th-world-integrity-its-elections

#1 in mass murder by shootings Again, not even close...the US homicide rate is around 4.7 per 100,000 while some countries are over 70.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

#1 in corrupt judicial system Not travel much I guess? Again the US is nowhere near the top countries in corruption:
https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/the-23-most-corrupt-countries-in-the-world/

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Response to ruffburr (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 06:13 PM

20. EX500Rider does a good job of refuting you

But I just don't know why Americans think we have "corrupt" politicians. It's like that survey that asked Americans what they fear, and the #1 response was "Government Corruption". In a country with more guns than people, and filled with angry yahoos, THAT'S what you're afraid of?

By and large, this is one of the most honest countries on the planet. Direct bribery is how stuff gets done in a lot of other places.

That our politicians are beholden to business interests is not "corruption" per se. Its par for the course, and there's an ethical line that's not to be crossed.

And, in contrast to the rest of the planet again, we actually send our politicians to jail for it. Not every one, but some from both parties.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 09:40 AM

3. Great meme

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 09:43 AM

4. Number 1 in religious wackos & people who talked with God! Amazing!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 10:50 AM

5. Reagan again? He's been out of office 35 years!

 

Everyone must think he was a successful president if his policies still survived almost 16 years of democratic presidencies. I guess everyone loved reagans policies since they apparently were kept. Is everyone saying Reagan was the most successful president of modern times? Sure sound like some are.

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #5)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 12:57 PM

8. Big Reagan fan I see.

What policies are still around? Selling arms to terrorists? Leaving U S Marines as sitting ducks in Lebanon? Tell me what policies?

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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 08:20 AM

9. Trickle down.

 

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:19 AM

12. The so-called Reagan "Revolution" (which was actually a Reaction)

set into motion the "government is bad/bidness is good" mentality that has become a form of fanaticism in this country.

He also set into motion the economic shift toward redistributing the nation's wealth among the elites. His "morning again/riding tall" propaganda made feeling good and patriotic more important than engaged citizenship.

Announcing his candidacy in Philadelphia, MS (where the Klan murdered three civil rights workers) advanced Nixon's "Southern strategy."

His laissez faire approach to governing led to the Iran-Contra scandal and undermined constitutional checks and balances.

I could go on, but I grow tired of regurgitating all this. Suffice it to say, his election in 1980 marked the beginning of an incredibly successful right-wing reaction in this country that has only grown and deepened in the ensuing decades.

Democratic and Republican administrations ever since Reagan have either maintained essential aspects of this agenda (i.e., economic and military) or expanded it and ramrodded it forward.

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:28 PM

21. Neither "Democratic" president ever tried

 

to reverse or even substantially modify the essentials of trickle-down economics. That wildly disproven theory is the accepted and eternal gospel in both institutional parties.

That would require truly progressive taxation, which existed through the Carter administration and to which both Clinton and Obama have responded like Dracula to a wreath of garlic and a keg of holy water.

Reagan/Thatcher economics continue to rule. And that is as obvious as a bear in a phone booth to anyone who has been paying the slightest bit of attention.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 11:06 AM

6. I'm surprised our infrastructure number isn't lower. n/t

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 11:08 AM

7. America is like an aging movie star......


...... clinging to its former glory even though it hasn't had a hit in years.

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Response to marmar (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 08:22 AM

10. succinct

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Response to marmar (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 08:59 AM

11. We're the Nora Desmond of Empires

And, no, I don't mean the classic, creepy Norma Desmond from Sunset Boulevard:



I'm talking about Carol Burnett's farcical Nora Desmond:

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Response to marmar (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 02:14 PM

13. Yup. I don't want to hear about how good it used to be.

I wanna hear how we're going to fix the problems we have right now. Also, I don't care whose fault those problems are. I just want someone who can fix them.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 02:29 PM

14. The people who came here and stole this land are at a crossroads

 

the defeatists who go along with the status quo can destroy the world prematurely and die with their shiny bullshit while the idealists have a chance at saving it .

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 02:35 PM

15. Darn, not even the global peacefulness index?

All those "No. ###" items have a nice rhythm to them, as I read them as "NO!"

Overall Education? NO!
Work-Life Balance? NO!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 04:07 PM

16. And the Republican propaganda goes on

Just imagine if the GOP controlled all three branches of government.

We'd rate somewhere below Uganda under Idi Amin and Libya under Quadafi. Our educational system today is probably just a bit better than the Saudi Arabian Wahhabi schools that export most of the hate and ignorance in the Middle East.

Nothing will improve in America until we rid ourselves of what is today's Republican Party. An opposition party is necessary, but today's GOP is not it. They are nihilists. We need a party that has a sane agenda and represents a rational opposition view.

In short, the sane people in this country have put up with right-wing bullshit for far too long. They need to be stopped. But as long as they control the House of Representatives, and the Supreme Court, we are fucked. And it will take a decade or more to fix this (if at all).

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:18 PM

17. They forgot one.....

 

I wonder where we rank in numbers of people coming here from their own backwards Countries?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 06:09 PM

19. #1 in Defense Spending per Capita

So we can point to that, at least.

Happy Armistice Day!

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