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Fri Nov 6, 2015, 01:41 PM

Obama, not going with the flow...

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http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-11-06/transcanada-falls-on-report-u-s-will-reject-keystone-xl

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Reply Obama, not going with the flow... (Original post)
kpete Nov 2015 OP
TheBlackAdder Nov 2015 #1
Bubzer Nov 2015 #2
LannyDeVaney Nov 2015 #3
Bubzer Nov 2015 #8
ErikJ Nov 2015 #12
Historic NY Nov 2015 #17
BeanMusical Nov 2015 #32
herding cats Nov 2015 #4
bvar22 Nov 2015 #5
HeartoftheMidwest Nov 2015 #18
bvar22 Nov 2015 #20
GoneFishin Nov 2015 #24
Gothmog Nov 2015 #6
NightWatcher Nov 2015 #7
Phlem Nov 2015 #9
ananda Nov 2015 #13
geek tragedy Nov 2015 #19
Live and Learn Nov 2015 #10
SunSeeker Nov 2015 #11
houston16revival Nov 2015 #14
FiveGoodMen Nov 2015 #16
EEO Nov 2015 #15
7962 Nov 2015 #23
PatrynXX Nov 2015 #21
7962 Nov 2015 #22
lonestarnot Nov 2015 #25
kentuck Nov 2015 #26
NorthCarolina Nov 2015 #27
BeanMusical Nov 2015 #33
riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #28
Rafale Nov 2015 #29
Hekate Nov 2015 #30
63splitwindow Nov 2015 #31
d_legendary1 Nov 2015 #34

Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2015, 02:03 PM

1. K&R nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2015, 02:04 PM

2. The GOP will lose their minds over this.

Expect to see a lot of attacks about Obama being a job destroyer.

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Response to Bubzer (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 6, 2015, 02:07 PM

3. Just send them to the transcript of his statement ...

 

he basically destroyed ANY right-wing "argument". Here is his best line, verbatim:

"So while our politics have been consumed by a debate over whether or not this pipeline would create jobs and lower gas prices, we’ve gone ahead and created jobs and lowered gas prices."


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Response to LannyDeVaney (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 6, 2015, 02:45 PM

8. Nice! I'll need to remember that one!

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Response to LannyDeVaney (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 6, 2015, 03:32 PM

12. Temporary jobs anyway

 

XL would create just a few perm. jobs.

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Response to Bubzer (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 6, 2015, 04:37 PM

17. Oh they are out there in twitter land...

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Response to Historic NY (Reply #17)

Sun Nov 8, 2015, 10:31 PM

32. She should do something about this dandruff problem.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2015, 02:12 PM

4. No, he's not.

I for one am very grateful for this!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2015, 02:12 PM

5. Many, many miles of the Keystone Pipeline have already been completed.

Mobilization of equipment and services, including construction, for the project started in 2008. Site of first construction was in North Dakota at the U.S.-Canadian border in May 2008 with Canadian construction getting under way during June 2008. Completion on the pipeline section to Cushing is scheduled for the fourth quarter of 2010.

Although Keystone is several months from completion, TransCanada has started filling completed sections of the pipeline system.

Here is a quick tale-of-the tape for the Keystone project:

*Total length is 2,148 miles.

*1,379 total miles of new pipeline was built in the U.S., including 1,084 miles of the U.S. mainline from the U.S.-Canadian border to markets in Wood River and Patoka as Phase I and 295 miles from Nebraska to Cushing as Phase II.





I don't see the Resource Extraction Corporation just abandoning the multi-millions they have already spent. I expect something far more nefarious.
(Yes. You are right. I don't trust these guys.
I've known them far too long. They won't throw all this away.)

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Response to bvar22 (Reply #5)

Fri Nov 6, 2015, 04:47 PM

18. Agreed.

The oil companies also have a little-discussed and largely unknown pipeline ( actually, maybe six running parallel to each other ) that runs from Dakota through Minnesota and through Wisconsin, down somewhere near Chicago.

The oil companies have quietly been testing those pipes for strength, and are planning to increase the amount of tar sludge running through them.

Maybe while everyone concentrates their ire on the Keystone line, it has been used as a diversion for what's REALLY going on through the Upper Midwest?

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Response to HeartoftheMidwest (Reply #18)

Fri Nov 6, 2015, 06:11 PM

20. I hadn't heard about those, but that would fit with the way they operate.

I can't say Keystone was just a distraction.
We are talking thousands of miles of completed (and already filled) pipeline.
They aren't going to throw those Millions and Millions away.

It is already a Done Deal....I'm just waiting for the "Gotcha" from the Obama Administration
sometime after the pipeline is actually in use.

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Response to bvar22 (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 7, 2015, 06:31 AM

24. There's zero chance they will call off their lawyers and abandon this. They may wait for prices to

sky-rocket again, but they are not done. No way.

Anyway, what's to stop the new administration from approving it anyway?

This is political theater.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2015, 02:34 PM

6. Great cartoon

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2015, 02:40 PM

7. Is this a brave position he's taking, or due to the market it's no longer feasible?

I thought that because of the price of oil, several projects had been shelved. I'm glad it's been stopped but I thought it had more to do with market conditions than anything else.

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #7)

Fri Nov 6, 2015, 02:54 PM

9. Or could it be look at this, not at that, focus on this!

Because the TPP just burned holes in my eyes.


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Response to Phlem (Reply #9)

Fri Nov 6, 2015, 03:33 PM

13. Exactly! A great diversion from the much more horrible TPP!

nt

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #7)

Fri Nov 6, 2015, 04:50 PM

19. then why not triangulate and approve it knowing it wouldn't happen?nt

 

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2015, 03:14 PM

10. K&R nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2015, 03:17 PM

11. K & R

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2015, 03:35 PM

14. Obama Power

goes to clean energy future again!

GOP are going to be livid.

But technology is the future, coal and oil are the past and present.

You gotta say, Obama keeps policy making around progressive themes and
it will be a long hard unwinding in most instances if the GOP even gets the chance.

And maybe ringing that liberal liberty bell will move us a hair left for a change.

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Response to houston16revival (Reply #14)

Fri Nov 6, 2015, 04:27 PM

16. Then he pushes for the TPP

after which it probably won't be up to the US President or Congress whether it gets built.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2015, 03:54 PM

15. He's too busy opening the massive sewer pipe of TPP.

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Response to EEO (Reply #15)

Fri Nov 6, 2015, 07:24 PM

23. HA!!

 

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2015, 07:11 PM

21. still can't believe people still think 5000 people or more

are needed to connect pre built pipes and weld them together. No it's 50 jobs and they'll be going down the line connecting the dots. Be a major waste of money to have almost 5000 people just standing around watching

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2015, 07:24 PM

22. Its really ridiculous this took 7 years. The oil's coming anyway.

 

Always has been. Hell, a huge pipeline already exists. Now, there will just be more sent in railcars. Whoop dee do. I try to look for "victories" that actually mean something

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 7, 2015, 07:31 AM

25. Thank you Mr. President. Thank you!

 

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 7, 2015, 08:25 AM

26. I have to think the recent election up in Canada had something to do with this?

The liberals are now in charge in Canada.

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Response to NorthCarolina (Reply #27)

Sun Nov 8, 2015, 10:33 PM

33. +1

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 7, 2015, 10:53 AM

28. K&R! You done good Mr. President!

 



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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 7, 2015, 01:17 PM

29. Hold on before the cheap champagne is unscrewed

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 7, 2015, 05:30 PM

30. KnR!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 8, 2015, 12:14 AM

31. Anything that pisses off the right wing wackos...

 

is, by that criteria alone, the right thing to do. That is how absolutely screwed up their world view currently is.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Nov 9, 2015, 03:21 PM

34. Veto now...TPP lawsuit later

This is nothing but political theatre.

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