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Unions Angry With Democrats Over Lack Of Help In Wisconsin Governor's Recall - TheHill

Unions angry with Democrats over lack of help in Wisconsin governor's recall
By Cameron Joseph and Kevin Bogardus - TheHill
05/25/12 06:00 AM ET

Top union officials are lashing out at Washington Democrats, claiming they haven't done enough to help them unseat Gov. Scott Walker (R) in Wisconsin's recall election.


International Association of Fire Fighters President Harold Schaitberger acknowledged the DNC’s help on the ground but said a major cash investment would have been worth a lot more.

"I'm very disappointed that the DNC has not seen fit to make a dollar investment," Schaitberger said. "When you're facing $25 million or more in super-PAC funds, you need money. The campaign needed funds to get up on the air to fight back. ... I think that would have been a good investment going into November."

Schaitberger credited Obama for being “fairly clear in his position on Wisconsin and the recall election,” but expressed frustration that there hadn’t been more focus on what he views as a crucial test heading into the fall elections. "I think this is a national campaign," Schaitberger said. "Wisconsin is another important test to establish the tone and mood of what is to come in November."

When asked about national Democrats' support in the recall election, another union official scoffed. "Labor has always been there for the national Democratic Party. The national Democratic Party should be there for labor in this instance. They're not," he said.

The official said that what happened in the recall election would likely bleed over into the presidential election. "I think they would want their voters energized and motivated for November. To me, it's just short-sighted," the official said.


A Democratic strategist working for anti-Walker forces warned that union members would be less enthusiastic about working for Obama if he doesn’t step up for them. "It won't go unnoticed by labor the extent to which the White House ultimately decides to fight or not fight for working people the final critical days in Wisconsin,” he said. "The White House needs to move beyond being afraid of its own shadow. The Romney campaign has already been foaming at the mouth to pounce if Walker survives. If that isn't motivation enough for the White House to start doing everything it can to help defeat Scott Walker, it's hard to know what is.”


More: http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/229485-unions-angry-with-washington-democrats-over-lack-of-help-in-wisconsin




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Reply Unions Angry With Democrats Over Lack Of Help In Wisconsin Governor's Recall - TheHill (Original post)
WillyT May 2012 OP
FarLeftFist May 2012 #1
HiPointDem May 2012 #2
Lifelong Protester May 2012 #3
Plucketeer May 2012 #4
BlueCaliDem May 2012 #5
WillyT May 2012 #7
tcaudilllg May 2012 #16
rhett o rick May 2012 #6
teddy51 May 2012 #8
SunsetDreams May 2012 #10
nevergiveup May 2012 #9
JoePhilly May 2012 #11
SunsetDreams May 2012 #12
WillyT May 2012 #13
freshwest May 2012 #14
Doctor_J May 2012 #15
tcaudilllg May 2012 #18
Vidar May 2012 #17
socialist_n_TN May 2012 #19

Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sat May 26, 2012, 01:26 PM

1. HUGE f**k up.

The only thing good is that Barrett seems to be smacking down Walker at the debates.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sat May 26, 2012, 01:30 PM

2. so the dnc's "help" consisted of what, if it wasn't monetary?

 

i've gotten about 10 calls asking for $ for WI in the last couple of weeks, & i'm unemployed & live on the west coast.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sat May 26, 2012, 01:39 PM

3. The DNC will not get another penny from me

for this reason.
I will support individuals running, of course, but not the DNC.

Support Barrett, Tammy Baldwin.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sat May 26, 2012, 01:39 PM

4. The WHOLE damned DNC machine

 

obviously can't find "comfortable shoes". I really do think their actions speak WAY louder than any transparent words they could utter. As I tell those who ask me, I'll be voting AGAINST Romney, not FOR Obama. It won't matter to Obama, what rationale I use, but it'll sorta mirror how he's "served" those who worked to get him into the White House.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sat May 26, 2012, 01:40 PM

5. Didn't Pres. Obama campaigned extensively in Wisconsin in 2010?

And yet Walker still won.

I don't know how Wisconsinites view the President, but there's no reason for the DNC to stay out of the fight. But I have read that they've given $1.5 million already. Not that it's a lot, but it's not nothing, either.

I'd take The Hill's reporting with a grain of salt. They're not exactly Democratic Party friendly.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #5)

Sat May 26, 2012, 01:50 PM

7. I Don't Care If They're Dem Friendly Or Not... I Care What Union Leaders And Democratic...

 

strategists are willing to say for publication.

Apparently they'd like more help, and are NOT getting it.


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Response to WillyT (Reply #7)

Sat May 26, 2012, 04:08 PM

16. Support our unions.

 

THEY are the courageous.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sat May 26, 2012, 01:47 PM

6. What could be the thought process of the DNC?? nm

 

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sat May 26, 2012, 01:58 PM

8. And then we get a dumb ass response like this from the DNC head.

 

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Response to teddy51 (Reply #8)

Sat May 26, 2012, 02:06 PM

10. Here's the context (Entire video of her statement)

http://www.c-span.org/Events/Newsmakers-with-Rep-Debbie-Wasserman-Schultz/10737430971/

The relevant part to the OP you are linking to starts at 12:53.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sat May 26, 2012, 02:04 PM

9. You would think the election was over.

The media loves these stories because they know it gets Democrats discouraged and depresses enthusiasm and voter turnout among Democrats.

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Response to nevergiveup (Reply #9)

Sat May 26, 2012, 02:07 PM

11. That's the entire goal.

Get Dems to fight among themselves.

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #11)

Sat May 26, 2012, 02:09 PM

12. exactly

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Response to nevergiveup (Reply #9)

Sat May 26, 2012, 02:29 PM

13. Well... That's One Theory... Another Is...

 

that it fires people up, causes them to dig a little deeper for donations, and focuses the anger to GOTV on election day.

Only time will tell.


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Response to nevergiveup (Reply #9)

Sat May 26, 2012, 03:22 PM

14. +1. It's worth it to the media owners as some Democrats fall for it and don't go and vote.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sat May 26, 2012, 04:00 PM

15. Unions still think they're a Dem constituency?

 

The Dems haven't even thrown them a crumb in at least 15 years. To all corpoDem apologists: please reply to this post and yell at me about how if the Dems lose this fall, it will be union members' fault for not showing up.

Wait! I forgot! The 2008 Dem candidate promised to put on comfortable shoes and stand/walk with labor if he happened to be elected.

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #15)

Sat May 26, 2012, 04:17 PM

18. Yeah I do expect Obama to be out walking.

 

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sat May 26, 2012, 04:14 PM

17. We need a Labor Party.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sat May 26, 2012, 06:56 PM

19. The unions had momentum during the early part of last year.........

There was even official talk of a general strike. Or at least the education of members about a general strike. But that's a revolutionary move and unions are NOT revolutionary. So they put ALL of their eggs in the "recall" basket. And that basket was ALWAYS of uncertain strength to hold the eggs. It still might work, but it was NEVER A SURE THING.

As I said at the time, even if the recall succeeded, you still have the problem of trying to get the laws OFF the books. They should have gone forward with the strike BEFORE the laws were enacted and signed.

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