Sat May 26, 2012, 11:12 AM
Faygo Kid (21,473 posts)
Joe Biden's from-the-heart remarks to families of fallen troops. Must see.
He is the Real Deal.
"It was the first time in my career, in my life, I realized someone could go out -- and I probably shouldn't say this with the press here, but no, but it's more important, you're more important. For the first time in my life, I understood how someone could consciously decide to commit suicide," the vice president said at the TAPS National Military Survivor Seminar and Good Grief Camp in Arlington, Va., according to Politico. "Not because they were deranged, not because they were nuts, because they had been to the top of the mountain, and they just knew in their heart they would never get there again." Biden then gave a painful account of the day of the incident, which took place just weeks before his swearing in as a first-term U.S. senator. "I was down in Washington hiring my staff and I got a phone call, saying that my family had been in an accident," he said. “And just like you guys know by the tone of the phone call, you just knew. You knew when they walked up the path. You knew when the call came. You knew. You just felt it in your bones: Something bad happened. And I knew -- I don’t know how I knew, but the caller said my wife is dead. My daughter is dead. And I wasn’t sure how my sons were going to make it. They were Christmas shopping and a tractor trailer broadsided them. "In one instant, killed two of them and, well..." Biden said, his voice brimming with emotion. After completing his own chronicle of grief and dealing with tragedy, the vice president ended on a positive note, encouraging listeners to stay strong and understand that the darkness cast by the death of a loved one will lift. "Folks, it can and will get better," Biden said. "There will come a day -- I promise you, and your parents as well -- when the thought of your son or daughter, or your husband or wife, brings a smile to your lips before it brings a tear to your eye. It will happen." http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57441915-503544/biden-recounts-personal-loss-shares-anguish-with-military-families/
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Faygo Kid | May 2012 | OP |
BeyondGeography | May 2012 | #1 | |
longship | May 2012 | #2 | |
Faygo Kid | May 2012 | #6 | |
longship | May 2012 | #9 | |
Faygo Kid | May 2012 | #16 | |
longship | May 2012 | #18 | |
Faygo Kid | May 2012 | #20 | |
seabeyond | May 2012 | #3 | |
loyalsister | May 2012 | #31 | |
seabeyond | May 2012 | #32 | |
cindyperry2010 | May 2012 | #4 | |
goclark | May 2012 | #12 | |
aquart | May 2012 | #5 | |
ProfessionalLeftist | May 2012 | #7 | |
lsewpershad | May 2012 | #8 | |
jwirr | May 2012 | #10 | |
goclark | May 2012 | #11 | |
GoCubsGo | May 2012 | #13 | |
Skelly | May 2012 | #14 | |
PatSeg | May 2012 | #15 | |
onethatcares | May 2012 | #17 | |
malaise | May 2012 | #19 | |
CBHagman | May 2012 | #21 | |
Faygo Kid | May 2012 | #23 | |
Vattel | May 2012 | #22 | |
spiderpig | May 2012 | #24 | |
Faygo Kid | May 2012 | #25 | |
spiderpig | May 2012 | #33 | |
sellitman | May 2012 | #26 | |
Faygo Kid | May 2012 | #28 | |
babylonsister | May 2012 | #27 | |
gateley | May 2012 | #29 | |
WheelWalker | May 2012 | #30 | |
jillan | May 2012 | #34 | |
Historic NY | May 2012 | #35 | |
awoke_in_2003 | May 2012 | #36 | |
valerief | May 2012 | #37 |
Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Sat May 26, 2012, 11:20 AM
BeyondGeography (38,561 posts)
1. Joe really leaves it all on the field
Notice how silent the room is by the end of the clip? He helped them, which is what he lives to do.
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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Sat May 26, 2012, 11:25 AM
longship (40,416 posts)
2. Wow! Thank you for this post.
I just made a post about my deceased father in another thread. So, maybe it's not surprising that this post brought tears to my eyes. After reading Biden's words, I realize the Democrats really have siezed the higher moral ground. His story is precisely the kind that Dems have to relate over and over again this year. It is our strength and the Republicans' weakness.
I really love nearly everything about Joe Biden. He is the real deal. Obama made a great choice for VEEP. Oh, R& ![]() |
Response to longship (Reply #2)
Sat May 26, 2012, 12:22 PM
Faygo Kid (21,473 posts)
6. Would like to see that thread.
Can you share? My relationship with my father was virtually nonexistent, but it turned out to be a bizarre story. Would like to see your thread.
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Response to Faygo Kid (Reply #6)
Sat May 26, 2012, 12:54 PM
longship (40,416 posts)
9. It is brief, but here it is.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1016&pid=29578
Someday I may write about my awesome parents (probably not here, but there may be opportunities, like today, when the situation dictates it). Thanks for your interest. My father was an incredibly kind person; my mother a bit of a fire-brand. The fact that they lived together without any apparent strife for over 50 years is a story in itself. I only hope that in my nearly 64 years I have come up to their standards. Somehow, I find myself doubting it. Sigh! One can only hope and continue to strive for such ideals. Thanks again. |
Response to longship (Reply #9)
Sat May 26, 2012, 03:16 PM
Faygo Kid (21,473 posts)
16. Terrific. Maybe you saw my post about Mom.
Like I said, not much to say about Dad. Didn't see him after I was 10 until I was 22, out of the blue. Then six months later I got a call from the Wayne County Morgue to ID him on a slab. That was about it.
You were fortunate. Thanks for sharing. Mom was a different story. http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002567161 |
Response to Faygo Kid (Reply #16)
Sat May 26, 2012, 06:08 PM
longship (40,416 posts)
18. Wayne County? Faygo?
Ding-ding-ding-ding-ding!!!
By any chance... Are you, or have you ever been, from Detroit? ![]() Myself, I confess to be a Cooley High graduate. What say you? ![]() |
Response to longship (Reply #18)
Sat May 26, 2012, 06:32 PM
Faygo Kid (21,473 posts)
20. Me, I'm an East Sider
Grew up between Eight and Nine Mile off Gratiot, and went to East Detroit High School back in the day.
Born in Detroit and my roots remain firmly there. Went to Wayne State and was a Federal's Department Store stockboy. Mom worked at Denby. |
Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Sat May 26, 2012, 11:29 AM
seabeyond (110,159 posts)
3. he brought tears. the man speaks from the heart.
he may get in trouble, but more.... people know he is sincere and it endears.
an excellent thing to remember. when remembering bring a smile to your lip, before a tear to your eye. |
Response to seabeyond (Reply #3)
Sat May 26, 2012, 11:43 PM
loyalsister (13,390 posts)
31. I love the way he said that!
After we lost a family member, it was a long time before we could see pictures of her without crying. I think the fact that he understands and can articulate his feelings about that common experience means A LOT to many people. It brought me to tears as well.
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Response to loyalsister (Reply #31)
Sat May 26, 2012, 11:48 PM
seabeyond (110,159 posts)
32. yes... nt
Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Sat May 26, 2012, 11:34 AM
cindyperry2010 (846 posts)
4. That man is the real deal
AND HE GETS IT
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Response to cindyperry2010 (Reply #4)
Sat May 26, 2012, 01:06 PM
goclark (30,404 posts)
12. His Bio link
Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Sat May 26, 2012, 12:29 PM
ProfessionalLeftist (4,982 posts)
7. Joe is rough and crusty on the outside....
...soft and big-hearted on the inside. I can see why Jill fell for him. He is truly a great guy.
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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Sat May 26, 2012, 12:31 PM
lsewpershad (2,620 posts)
8. Powerful
I felt in my bones that he was there.
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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Sat May 26, 2012, 12:57 PM
jwirr (39,215 posts)
10. I cried because I remember that day when he lost his wife and child.
Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Sat May 26, 2012, 01:00 PM
goclark (30,404 posts)
11. Love Joe Biden
He is the perfect VP for Obama. He cares and that video link is a must see for anyone with a Heart. Republicans will probably hate it because they don't have hearts. |
Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Sat May 26, 2012, 01:40 PM
GoCubsGo (31,112 posts)
13. I just hope the repugs don't try to do to him what they did to Ed Muskie and Michael Dukakis.
They have a history of trying to get people to question a Democratic candidate's mental state, and I can see how they could attempt to exploit Joe Biden's remarks. I'm not criticizing the VP at all, here, BTW. Frankly, I think that if the repugs try to negatively exploit this, it will likely explode in their faces.
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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Sat May 26, 2012, 01:50 PM
Skelly (237 posts)
14. Still waiting for that day. n/t
Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Sat May 26, 2012, 01:54 PM
PatSeg (44,906 posts)
15. I cried through the whole speech
but I always cry when Joe talks about his late wife and daughter. This particular speech was especially moving and his advice was perfect.
Rachel talked about the speech last night and said it was unlike anything she had ever heard from a president or vice president. |
Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Sat May 26, 2012, 04:03 PM
onethatcares (15,414 posts)
17. the deal is,
we are all in this thing together, don't matter what color skin, eyes, hair, political affiliations or anything, but it seems the rightwing party wants to deny the human element for money and power.
I would prefer the human element. |
Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Sat May 26, 2012, 06:10 PM
malaise (254,494 posts)
19. It was wonderful
Rachel played all of it last night
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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Sat May 26, 2012, 06:58 PM
CBHagman (16,758 posts)
21. Honest view of grief.
To be honest, I often forget that Biden has been through what I regard as an unbearable loss, and I would be willing to bet few people in this country know about his history.
But what he says here is necessary. In these days of open narcissim and TMI nearly everywhere we go, he says what has to be said about grief and loss. Judging by the response, he struck a chord with the listeners too. |
Response to CBHagman (Reply #21)
Sat May 26, 2012, 07:57 PM
Faygo Kid (21,473 posts)
23. I have never seen anything like this, and I am no youngster.
Yes, I'm kicking it, but if anyone - anyone - here on DU has not seen this, they must do so. Nows.
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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Sat May 26, 2012, 07:39 PM
Vattel (9,289 posts)
22. Awesome Joe! Politics has not robbed you of your humanity.
Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Sat May 26, 2012, 08:26 PM
spiderpig (10,419 posts)
24. I simply lost it while viewing.
I think you have to actually see him speaking rather than reading the text.
I just dissolved. ![]() |
Response to spiderpig (Reply #24)
Sat May 26, 2012, 09:14 PM
Faygo Kid (21,473 posts)
25. Hard not to lose it with this. Extraordinary.
I have seen few politicians as moving as this. Ted Kennedy at Bobby's funeral comes to mind.
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Response to Faygo Kid (Reply #25)
Sun May 27, 2012, 12:10 AM
spiderpig (10,419 posts)
33. I remember my grandmother telling about the military vehicle pulling up
outside the house to deliver the message that her eldest son had been shot down over the English Channel in WWII.
Then a few months later (her second son was in the Pacific), she was dusting upstairs and saw a soldier walking up the front steps and she fainted dead away. He had the wrong address. The pain is unimaginable. |
Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Sat May 26, 2012, 09:27 PM
sellitman (11,274 posts)
26. I saw this earlier
I was thunderstruck. No words....
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Response to sellitman (Reply #26)
Sat May 26, 2012, 10:05 PM
Faygo Kid (21,473 posts)
28. Words are indeed useless. This will grow in legend.
Joe Biden nails what it is all about. It's about family. The neocons don't get it.
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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Sat May 26, 2012, 09:49 PM
babylonsister (170,212 posts)
27. I too had read about this but hadn't seen it; thank you for sharing.
I imagine there were people who took great comfort in VP Biden's words.
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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Sat May 26, 2012, 10:55 PM
gateley (62,683 posts)
29. The photos behind him of our fallen brothers and sisters...
![]() He IS the real deal. I've always believed in him. |
Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Sat May 26, 2012, 11:33 PM
WheelWalker (8,490 posts)
30. Kick and recommend!
Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Sun May 27, 2012, 12:14 AM
jillan (39,451 posts)
34. "...brings a smile to your lips before it brings a tear to your eye." That is the most beautiful
comment I have ever heard regarding the loss of a loved one.
That comment will stay with me forever. Joe is such a good man - and I am so sick to death of the comic book character the media has made out of him. |
Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Sun May 27, 2012, 12:51 AM
Historic NY (36,574 posts)
35. Yup.........
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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Sun May 27, 2012, 12:54 AM
awoke_in_2003 (34,582 posts)
36. There is a reason...
why Joe was my first pick in the primaries- he is real. He may sometimes drive the establishment crazy, but he is always real. I know about the tired cliche about having a beer with a candidate, but he has always appeared, to me, like the good natured next door neighbor. Obama was smart to bring him on board.
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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)
Sun May 27, 2012, 02:11 PM
valerief (53,235 posts)