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Fri Oct 30, 2015, 03:07 PM

 

In the tradition of Bush: Obama putting boots on the ground in Syria!!! Wee Hee!

In the end, I imagine we will be aligning ourselves with ISIS to defeat Assad - as, in my view, the defeat of Assad has been the goal since GWB's Axis of Evil speech.

Another win for the neocon dream of endless war.

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Reply In the tradition of Bush: Obama putting boots on the ground in Syria!!! Wee Hee! (Original post)
grahamhgreen Oct 2015 OP
DocPain Oct 2015 #1
Maedhros Oct 2015 #2
HassleCat Oct 2015 #3
willvotesdem Oct 2015 #4
tabasco Oct 2015 #5
grahamhgreen Oct 2015 #6
gratuitous Oct 2015 #9
uppityperson Oct 2015 #7
grahamhgreen Oct 2015 #8
uppityperson Oct 2015 #10
MisterP Oct 2015 #11
grahamhgreen Oct 2015 #13
MisterP Oct 2015 #15
Octafish Oct 2015 #12
grahamhgreen Oct 2015 #14
Octafish Oct 2015 #16

Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 03:09 PM

1. Yep,

 

I just posted about this. I wonder how Assad and his Russian cohorts will feel about the American invaders?

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 03:13 PM

2. I for one am not worried at all.

 

Military adventures are only ill-advised when a Republican is in the White House. Thank God we've got a Democrat, it magically makes killing brown foreign people OK -whether they are innocent civilians or patients at a MSF hospital.

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 03:13 PM

3. Newspeak is here

 

War is peace, literally. We wage perpetual war, in several places at once, so we can enjoy peace and security. We all know how Orwell described the revisionist history, with the campaign to convince everyone East Asia was the enemy, had always been the enemy, etc. We're only a step away from that. All we need is a Ministry of Truth. Not only do we fail to recognize what we're being sold, but we're eager consumers. They're feeding us rat poison, and we're screaming for more.

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 03:14 PM

4. Less than 50 just the nose of the camel under the tent.

 

Look for thousands more if congress doesn't act. All the military contractors must be salivating.

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 03:15 PM

5. Yawn

 

Bush created ISIS; Obama is trying to destroy the barbaric assholes.

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Response to tabasco (Reply #5)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 03:17 PM

6. Hey pal, ISIS is ex Iraqi military funded by Saudi oil money, using US equipment. Soon they

 

will be our buddies in the fight against Assad, mark my words.

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Response to tabasco (Reply #5)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 03:30 PM

9. Darn right

And it won't even take 50 of our star-spangled, all American, Fightin' Men and Women! That'll totes destroy them.

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 03:23 PM

7. They are people, not boots.

I know, it is the term he used but it bothers me a lot because no. They aren't "boots" but people. It strikes me as an attempt to depersonalize people.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #7)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 03:27 PM

8. It absolutely is. They won't even fix Detroit, there is no reason to think they are trying to fix

 

anything in Syria.

This is Empire, war for profit, and the destruction of American Democracy in action, imho.

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Response to grahamhgreen (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 03:32 PM

10. My rant as this really upsets me

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 03:36 PM

11. we'll fight with IS and PMOI against Kurdistan when we realize they're the ones

doing the infibulation and honor-killings, then turn on them when one of them isn't "Democrat" enough or whatever

then we invade Cardiff

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Response to MisterP (Reply #11)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 03:54 PM

13. Cardiff?

 

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Response to grahamhgreen (Reply #13)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 04:00 PM

15. "it is a vote that says clearly to the Welsh--this is your last chance--disarm or be disarmed"

"I come to this decision from the perspective of a Senator from New York who has seen all too closely the consequences of last year's terrible attacks on our nation. In balancing the risks of action versus inaction, I think New Yorkers who have gone through the fires of hell may be more attuned to the risk of not acting"

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 03:52 PM

12. Is This Barack Obama's 2nd Term? Is it Bill Clinton's 3rd? Or Is It Ronald Reagan's 9th?

They say that elections do matter, and that there are real differences between Republican and Democratic presidents. But backing up the view to 30 years, that difference looks a lot more like continuity, both at home and in America's global empire.

By Bruce A. Dixon
Black Agenda Report managing editor, April 10, 2013

The answer is yes to all three. Ronald Reagan hasn't darkened the White House door in decades. But his policy objectives have been what every president, Democrat and Republican have pursued relentlessly ever since. Barack Obama is only the latest and most successful of Reagan's disciples.

SNIP...

In Barack Obama's case all he had to say was that he wasn't necessarily against wars, just against what he called “stupid wars.” Corporate media and “liberal” shills morphed that lone statement into a false narrative that Barack Obama opposed the war in Iraq, making him an instantly viable presidential candidate at a time when the American people overwhelmingly opposed that war. Once in office, Barack Obama strove mightily to abrogate the Status of Forces Agreement with Iraq which would have allowed US forces to remain there indefinitely. But when the Iraqi puppet government, faced with a near revolt on the part of what remained of Iraqi civil society, dared not do his bidding, insisting that uniformed US troops (but not the American and multinational mercenaries we pay to remain there) stick to the withdrawal timetable agreed upon under Bush, liberal shills and corporate media hailed the withdrawal from Iraq as Obama's “victory.”

Barack Obama doubled down on the invasion and occupation of large areas of Afghanistan, and increased the size of the army and marines, which in fact he pledged to do during his presidential campaign. Presidential candidate Obama promised to end secret imprisonment and torture. The best one can say about President Obama on this score is that he seems to prefer murderous and indiscriminate drone attacks, in many cases, over the Bush policy of international kidnapping secret imprisonment and torture. The Obama administration's reliance on drones combined with US penetration of the African continent, means that a Democratic, ostensibly “antiwar” president has been able to openly deploy US troops to every part of that continent in support of its drive to control the oil, water, and other resources there.

The objectives President Obama's Africa policies fulfill today were put down on paper by the Bush administration, pursued by Bill Clinton before that, and still earlier pursued by Ronald Reagan, when it funded murderous contra armies of UNITA in Angola and RENAMO in Mozambque. It was UNITA and RENAMO's campaigns, assisted by the apartheid regimes of Israel and South Africa that pioneered the genocidal use of child soldiers. Today, cruise missile liberals hail the Obama administration's use of pit bull puppet regimes like Uganda, Burundi and Rwanda, all of which shot their way into power with child soldiers, to invade Somalia and Congo, sometimes ostensibly to go after other bad actors on the grounds that they are using child soldiers.

CONTINUED...

http://www.blackagendareport.com/content/barack-obamas-2nd-term-it-bill-clintons-3rd-or-it-ronald-reagans-9th

We need to go back to that thrilling time of yesteryear when being a Democrat was about being a Democrat, the Party of Peace and Prosperity for ALL.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #12)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 03:58 PM

14. What is it? One-quarter of our debt is for the American Empire experiment in the ME?

 

We need to make war an issue for this campaign.

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Response to grahamhgreen (Reply #14)

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 04:09 PM

16. Well, the moderators don't want to upset the candidates.

Then there's the question of the advertisers...

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