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struggle4progress

(118,032 posts)
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 12:33 AM Oct 2015

Woman Told to Move Car (TN)

BELLE MEADE, Tenn. (WZTV) - Normally, Chaneine McBath doesn't take the two Confederate flags she flies from her car windows down ...

Thursday ... the president of Saint Thomas West Hospital told her to either remove the flags or her car ...

McBath says her car has been vandalized in the past, but she feels what happened at Saint Thomas went too far ...

"We are responsible to ensure that our employees are provided a work environment free of intimidation," said King. "Some of our employees were visibly upset by the flags and were avoiding the area where the car was parked" ...


http://www.myfox28columbus.com/news/features/top-stories/stories/Woman-Told-to-Move-Car-with-Confederate-Battle-Flags-from-Hospital-Parking-Lot-223085.shtml#.VisIaWSrSL8
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Woman Told to Move Car (TN) (Original Post) struggle4progress Oct 2015 OP
I've actually seen that car on Charlotte Pike. Lars39 Oct 2015 #1
I've seen it too sunnystarr Oct 2015 #2
Yes! Lars39 Oct 2015 #3
Could just be sunnystarr Oct 2015 #5
Heh, very descriptive! Lars39 Oct 2015 #7
Yes Belle Meade was the scene of the "crime" sunnystarr Oct 2015 #10
I just moved from Munificence Oct 2015 #14
i live just south of belle meade and have not seen that car, but i'll be on the lookout for it. spanone Oct 2015 #12
I was expecting to see a disgusting display of two tailgate sized flags, ecstatic Oct 2015 #4
I found her claims that her car had sometimes been vandalized, but that she was more upset struggle4progress Oct 2015 #6
Stupid, worn as a badge of honor. Cassiopeia Oct 2015 #8
My roots run southern too Lunabell Oct 2015 #9
Could be that when viewed historically sunnystarr Oct 2015 #11
as will ours librechik Oct 2015 #13
Meet the keeper of the flags ... sunnystarr Oct 2015 #15
owow librechik Oct 2015 #16
And, kentauros Oct 2015 #18
Somebody should tell her roaminronin Oct 2015 #17
She has a right to display racist symbols Omaha Steve Oct 2015 #19

Lars39

(26,093 posts)
1. I've actually seen that car on Charlotte Pike.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 01:29 AM
Oct 2015

Kinda surprised me seeing such a thing in such a diverse area. Wondered if the driver had some kind of death wish.

sunnystarr

(2,638 posts)
2. I've seen it too
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 02:04 AM
Oct 2015

I live off Charlotte Pike and have seen it quite a few times. Makes you just want to rip them off her car. Talk about overkill (but then again that brings us back to "death wish&quot

Lars39

(26,093 posts)
3. Yes!
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 02:16 AM
Oct 2015

And what also struck me was that this was a nice car, not some beater truck from White Bluff or some other 'burb.
The pic doesn't really show that there's 2 flags. Hard to angle that much stupidity into one shot, I guess.

sunnystarr

(2,638 posts)
5. Could just be
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 02:43 AM
Oct 2015

the old money in Belle Meade rooted in the bowels of the rotted Confederacy flatulating her need for relevancy.

Lars39

(26,093 posts)
7. Heh, very descriptive!
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 03:02 AM
Oct 2015

Article's a little confusing, but seems it was posted as Belle Meade because Saint Thomas is located there. Googling...turns out she's from Ashland City. Intrepid reporters strike again! <eyeroll>

sunnystarr

(2,638 posts)
10. Yes Belle Meade was the scene of the "crime"
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 07:27 AM
Oct 2015

I live halfway between the Nashville West Shopping Ctr and White Bridge so it's no wonder I've had my flag sightings. She must be more upscale than the average Ashlander since they have own Walmart but no Costco and Target.

Munificence

(493 posts)
14. I just moved from
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 09:52 AM
Oct 2015

Brentwood a year+ ago and purchased a "gentleman's" farm just south of Nolensville. Did not see many rebel flags in Brentwood (very conservative area and fairly wealthy average family income of $150K + with 30K residents). Out in my area now you'll see some from time to time, mainly with Rutherford county tags on their cars. I believe in freedom of speech and am not intimidated by a flag nor the rednecks so it doesn't bother me much. If we started getting tough on idiots in general then we'd have a lot of cleaning to do in our own house.

Any of you going to the Dead & Company concert in a few weeks?

On a lighter note on Nov 5th if you look up and see a hot air balloon then you can say "Ha, there is Munificence". Wife of 20 years got us tickets for our anniversary for a nice hot air balloon ride. Launching out of Franklin and will go to where ever the wind takes us.

Oh, I'm not a local, been here 5 years and am from the North, love the area though.


spanone

(135,627 posts)
12. i live just south of belle meade and have not seen that car, but i'll be on the lookout for it.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 09:18 AM
Oct 2015

ecstatic

(32,566 posts)
4. I was expecting to see a disgusting display of two tailgate sized flags,
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 02:34 AM
Oct 2015

but this idiot is flying two full sized confederate flags on her car? ! And now she's whining to the media because up until now, she hasn't received the reaction she was hoping for (perhaps she was hoping to be attacked so she could cry victim and gin up more racial hatred).

struggle4progress

(118,032 posts)
6. I found her claims that her car had sometimes been vandalized, but that she was more upset
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 02:58 AM
Oct 2015

by being asked to move from the hospital lot, absolutely fascinating

Lunabell

(5,919 posts)
9. My roots run southern too
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 03:19 AM
Oct 2015

I was raised on grits, fried chicken and every thing southern, but THAT is not my heritage. I am ashamed of my racist foremothers and fathers. This flag does not represent the south. It represents oppression and hate!

sunnystarr

(2,638 posts)
11. Could be that when viewed historically
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 09:05 AM
Oct 2015

things were much the same in the South. There were your one-percenters and those who believed if they emulated them some of that southern royalty would shower down on them like manna from heaven. They lifted themselves up by rejecting the economic least among them; some in words and others in twisted violence. If they didn't have the money they could have some of that power.

Then there were those who didn't care about power and money. Who worked hard, loved their families, friends, and communities. Those who glanced at slavery with a sense of shame but couldn't articulate it since it would be politically incorrect and bear consequences. Similar in fact to World War II Germany.

But it didn't matter which group anyone reflected. The Southern heritage, as the German, will always be stained by their crimes against humanity.

librechik

(30,663 posts)
13. as will ours
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 09:28 AM
Oct 2015

Native American Genocide

Slavery itself

Jim Crow

Wars based on lies


IMO, The US has a lot to be stained about, even without the stubborn clinging to the racist confederacy, which is shameless.

sunnystarr

(2,638 posts)
15. Meet the keeper of the flags ...
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 02:48 PM
Oct 2015

She has a FB presence which is open for viewing.







She lets viewers know she's Cherokee living only 45 minutes away from the Hermitage, home of Andrew Jackson the President responsible for the Indian Removal law and the Trail of Tears. The President who thumbed his nose at our Supreme Court ...


When the government of Georgia refused to recognize their autonomy and threatened to seize their lands, the Cherokees took their case to the U.S. Supreme Court and won a favorable decision. John Marshall's opinion for the Court majority in Cherokee Nation v. Georgia was essentially that Georgia had no jurisdiction over the Cherokees and no claim to their lands. But Georgia officials simply ignored the decision, and President Jackson refused to enforce it. Jackson was furious and personally affronted by the Marshall ruling, stating, "Mr. Marshall has made his decision. Now let him enforce it!"
http://www.ushistory.org/us/24f.asp


There weren't any symbols available to Native tribes to help them focus and externalize their anger, so the symbol was skin color. In the words of Samuel Cloud who was 9 when he walked the Trail Where They Cried:

I hate the white people who lined the roads in their woolen clothes that kept them warm, watching us pass. None of those white people are here to say they are sorry that I am alone. None of them care about me or my people. All they ever saw was the color of our skin. All I see is the color of theirs and I hate them.
http://www.angelfire.com/ny4/HOMEPAGE/writings/tearsmemory.html


For African Americans the Confederate flag became their symbol making the same statement and more.

Chaneine is a "Nascar" babe type who drag races with the NHRA Sports League. Those flags are nothing more than her identity to announce to everyone looking that she's aligns herself with car racing. She's self absorbed and in her world the flags don't offend her so they just can't possibly be offensive to anyone ... because, after all, she's the only one that counts.

But she wants you to remember that she's ...


librechik

(30,663 posts)
16. owow
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 05:29 PM
Oct 2015

well, Native Americans I know say that they had the flags first and Washichu (white people) stole the flags from them. So they have more of a right to fly them than we do, according to them, and I don't like to argue with my Cherokee cousins. (I'm Oglala) But the flags mean something different to them than they do to us.

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