DU! We must PUSH THE PRESS to cover this story they are hiding.

[grasswire]

The latest batch of emails released from Colin Powell's stash have exposed Colin Powell, Tony Blair, and George W. Bush's perfidy in the planning of the selling of the Iraq war a year before it began!!

The emails were published over the weekend, but the U.S. press has ignored them.

It is OUR JOB to push the press to cover this astounding development.

Take it to the streets. Push the press. Contact any news people you know.

http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/hillary-clintons-emails-reveal-that-george-w-bush-committed-treason/22854/

[Cleita]

1. The Project for a New American Century wrote a letter in 1998 to President Clinton demanding that

we invade Iraq to get rid of Saddam.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5527.htm

Among the signers were those prominent in the Bush administration, Elliott Abrams, Richard Armitage, William Bennett, John Bolton, William Kristol, Richard Perle, Donald Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz. Although Jeb Bush didn't sign this particular letter, he was a member of this think tank and helped form the policy and mission of these miscreants. I wonder where Shrubya got the idea. Hmmmm.

The US press has also ignored this.

[cprise]

56. Robert Kagan, advisor to Hillary, also a co-founder

His specialty is transitioning neoconservatism to "liberal interventionism"... e.g. detaching from the dying Republican party and carrying on with Democrats.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027268821#post16

Hillary promoted his wife, Victoria Nuland, at the State Dept. She edits her husband's writing.

[SusanaMontana41]

62. Ah, yes. The Neocons' "Mein Kampf"

The 'Cons needed a Pearl Harbor-like catastrophe to put PNAC in motion. Boy did they get one. Surprise!

Also check out History Commons for timelines about 9/11, Watergate, Katrina, U.S. interventions, domestic propaganda … Every entry on those timelines is sourced. Spend some time there.

http://www.historycommons.org/timelines.jsp

[napkinz]

2. K&R

[onenote]

3. As much as I wish it were so, I've read the mails included with the story

And I don't see a smoking gun I there. What I see is a discussion of how Blair was getting domestic push back on supporting military action against Iraq in the absence of documentation of WMD development. Of course, the same was true about the US -- there was push back against an Iraq invasion absent documentation of WMDs.

Not sure I see anything particularly new here. Bush lied. That's not a new story.

[JDPriestly]

59. The Bush administration relied on British evidence of WMDs in Iraq to argue they existed.

The Niger uranium forgeries were forged documents initially revealed by SISMI (Italian military intelligence), which seem to depict an attempt made by Saddam Hussein in Iraq to purchase yellowcake uranium powder from Niger during the Iraq disarmament crisis.

On the basis of these documents and other indicators, the governments of the United States and the United Kingdom asserted that Iraq violated United Nations Iraq sanctions by attempting to procure nuclear material for the purpose of creating weapons of mass destruction.

. . . .

In his January 2003 State of the Union speech, U.S. President George W. Bush said, "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."[2] This single sentence is now known as "the Sixteen Words."[3] The administration later conceded that evidence in support of the claim was inconclusive and stated, "These sixteen words should never have been included." The administration attributed the error to the CIA.[4] In mid-2003, the U.S. government declassified the 2002 National Intelligence Estimate, which contained a dissenting opinion published by the U.S. Department of State stating that the intelligence connecting Niger to Saddam Hussein was "highly suspect," primarily because State Department's intelligence agency analysts did not believe that Niger would be likely to engage in such a transaction due to a French consortium which maintained close control over the Nigerien uranium industry.[5]

According to The Washington Post, when occupying troops found no evidence of a current nuclear program, the statement and how it came to be in the speech became a focus for critics in Washington and foreign capitals to press the case that the White House manipulated facts to take the United States to war. The Post reported, "Dozens of interviews with current and former intelligence officials and policymakers in the United States, Britain, France and Italy show that the Bush administration disregarded key information available at the time showing that the Iraq-Niger claim was highly questionable."[6] With the release of the 2002 NIE report, the Bush administration was criticized for including the statement in the State of the Union despite CIA and State Department reports questioning its veracity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niger_uranium_forgeries

I don't know whether anyone ever determined where the forged documents originated or who forged them. If you remember, the Valerie Plame case was about the fact that Plame's husband wrote an article claiming that the Niger uranium documents were forgeries.

In his 2003 State of the Union speech, Bush made it sound like the British had some sort of intelligence showing that Hussein had WMDs. The Niger forgeries are believed to have been were at least some of what he presented to the world as proof that Hussein had WMDs.

The whole thing was a big lie trumped up by Bush and Blair, et al., possibly including Colin Powerll but what Powell's role was other than to arrange the meeting discussed in the e-mail included in Hilary's e-mails is uncertain.

Bush claimed to be relying on British intelligence when he asserted that Iraq had WMDs. That is why the agreements and discussions about the selling of the War in Iraq that took place between Blair and Bush is so important.

Now the question is whether Blair or someone close to him was the source of the Niger forgeries which provided to Bush the excuse to start the war.

There is also a question about how the Iraq oil was divided up after our invasion. According to the book, Price of Loyalty, Paul O'Neill, Bush's first Secretary of the Treasury remembered that early in the Bush administration, certain members of the cabinet had maps of Iraqi oil fields spread out on a table and were discussing how the oil wells would be divided up and assigned.

The Iraq War was based on lies, and some of those lies were the British prime minister's contribution to the effort.

The Iraq War was never about WMDs. It was about oil.

Read the April 2004 edition of Vanity Fair if you can find a copy.

Also read The Price of Loyalty.


http://www.amazon.com/The-Price-Loyalty-George-Education/dp/0743255461

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Price_of_Loyalty

[nashville_brook]

4. k and r -- wish i could rec twice for using the word 'perfidy' :)

it's so on point.

[delrem]

5. "push the press"???

When has that worked, for anyone but the billionaire war profiteers?

[grasswire]

37. we have better tools now

twitter, facebook, yada yada

[Scuba]

6. Yep, we on the "fringe left" need to keep this in the spotlight. No one else will.

Hillary obviously knew this and didn't say shit.

[Eleanors38]

14. This is true.^^^

[Hortensis]

25. Only if strictly true. We're liberals, most of us, and value the truth.

Not like all those sleazy right-wing swift-boaters.

[Eleanors38]

27. The main truth is we are on our own...

Obama, the Democratic Party, MSM is NO FRIEND of even conventional progressive policies. They are hostile to them. We build our own movement or wither away.

[Hortensis]

28. No excuse for slander and libel. At all. IS it true???

Last edited Mon Oct 19, 2015, 07:55 PM - Edit history (1)

And while we're at it, please do not associate the honorable word "progressive" with foolish and misguided behaviors against those who have been progressive far longer. I'm among them, progressive for 50 years, and I find it very offensive.

Here's a clue for who we are:
* Progressives BUILD and ADVANCE our nation for the good of everyone.
* Social conservatives obstruct progressivism by running in packs, identifying progressive targets and attacking. Their primary weapon is libel and slander.

[Rex]

29. Since the emails predate SOS HRC, you would have to ask her.

Only she would know that answer. From what I understand, it was federal authorities that found the Powell emails. We need to find out why Powell did not step forward knowing Bush and Blair were committing high treason.

[chapdrum]

7. I'm starting to hear the crickets already

As if the average citizen is going to be surprised, or much care.

[Shankapotomus]

66. I would just like to say hello

to all the uninvited conservative lurkers who are currently watching this thread over at conservative underground:

http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum505/showthread.php?70103-Hillary-Clinton’s-emails-reveal-evidence-that-George-W-Bush-committed-treason

Hi, We see you. Real original name you got there.

[Uncle Joe]

8. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, grasswire.

[senz]

9. Some of this knew this long before the invasion.

There is a ton of evidence out there. I was exposed to it via a great little group of amateur investigators in a forum that no longer exists. Wish I'd saved, and printed out, all the links -- as at least one member did.

The media will kill us all if we don't do everything we can to break it up and never, ever let it get so big again.

[grasswire]

21. senz, PM me the name of that group

we may have worked together then.

[Stanley British]

47. I wonder if they have referred to the Downing Street Memos

[cprise]

57. Lots of ways to save stuff:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/scrapbook/

[Thespian2]

10. K & R !!!!

Unfortunately, the billionaires who control US media don't care what the Bush crime family has done...UK press is the only real hope for exposure...they recognize Tony Blair for the psychopathic shit he is...

[BeanMusical]

11. Kick and R

[spanone]

12. K&R...

[lonestarnot]

13. Wow. K & R!

[seafan]

15. Jeb Bush is a devious founding member of the Iraq blueprint---the PNAC. An accomplice.

Here is the PNAC's Statement of Principles, with the neocon signatories in all their glory. The date is June 3, 1997, the year before Jeb Bush became Florida's governor.

Why Won't Media Ask Jeb Bush About PNAC?


I'd wager he would suddenly be a lot more tongue-tied and peevish.

For not only is George W. Bush to blame for the chaos we see today, so is Jeb Bush culpable, as one of his brother's accomplices. (The very same role he played in stealing Election 2000 in Florida.)

He is DEEPLY involved in the whole devious neocon plan to attack multiple nations.

This would be good info for Donald Trump to mention in this conversation that irritates Jeb Bush so much.


Bush and Blair were cooking up war plans against Iraq a year before the invasion.


via Daily Mail


Iron bars and chains should be in their future.

[Rex]

22. Two modern day warcriminals shaking hands as thousands die by their handywork.

Never will forget or forgive.

[Enthusiast]

16. Kicked and recommended!

We have known it was a nest of rabid weasels from day one.

[Art_from_Ark]

38. Yes, some of us have, at least

And to this day, I have never addressed either of the top two weasels as "President" or "Vice President", respectively, unless it was preceded by "not my".

[Rex]

17. My only regret is that I can only K&R this once.

[Angry Dragon]

19. you may kick it as many times as you want

[Rex]

20. Good point and I will!

But I can only K&R it once...all the rest of the time it is only a kick! Which we should keep this at the top imo.

[Angry Dragon]

23. everytime you kick it pretend it is a repub

[Rex]

24. LOL!

Can do!

[SleeplessinSoCal]

18. Marx: "Religion (and the media) are the opiate of the masses"

With the axiom "follow the money" as a guide, why are the biggest criminals protected? As religion appears to have lost its previous position, I posit the media has replaced it as the moral guide in America. I think it's the main cause of our pent up anger and often hurts us most. And as with all power, it is corrupt.

35 years ago the most profitable industries were totally different - save maybe "health". I wanted to see as in 1980 the "media" was the most profitable. According to this ratings system it has fallen to 10th place and is described as "telecommunication".

http://www.inc.com/ss/will-yakowicz/10-best-industries-on-2014-inc-5000.html

[fadedrose]

26. This is going to be an interesting year

President Obama's term is starting to look better and better...

[oldandhappy]

30. Good morning, MSNBC

Here are some stories we are reading today. Powell, Blair and Bush planned the selling of the Iraq war before it began. What are you reading today???!!!

[Fred Sanders]

31. It is like the American Media has already held a trial and found Bush and Company not guilty!

So no need for a re-trial, obviously!

And never you folks mind that the American Media is kind of in a massive conflict of interest when reporting on the war crimes of the criminals they helped commit the war crimes for.

Remember The Dixie Chicks?

If you do, please stop it right now!

[blm]

32. Spread it on Facebook and Twitter, because M$M has no interest in reporting the truth.

.

[bullwinkle428]

33. C'mon, Trump - you've got the biggest mouthpiece in America...

...literally and figuratively. Time to step up! Whatever happened to "go big or go home"?

K&R.

[grasswire]

34. It would be really cool if Trump would promise to prosecute Bush

That would throw a monkey wrench into everything, wouldn't it?

If Trump promised to prosecute our war crimes?

[ozone_man]

42. That would be very cool!

Hillary sure wouldn't, she was complicit.

[neverforget]

35. Plans For Iraq Attack Began On 9/11 (Sept 4, 2002)

By JOEL ROBERTS CBS September 4, 2002, 4:10 PM
Plans For Iraq Attack Began On 9/11

CBS News has learned that barely five hours after American Airlines Flight 77 plowed into the Pentagon, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld was telling his aides to come up with plans for striking Iraq — even though there was no evidence linking Saddam Hussein to the attacks.

That's according to notes taken by aides who were with Rumsfeld in the National Military Command Center on Sept. 11 – notes that show exactly where the road toward war with Iraq began, reports CBS News National Security Correspondent David Martin.

At 9:53 a.m., just 15 minutes after the hijacked plane had hit the Pentagon, and while Rumsfeld was still outside helping with the injured, the National Security Agency, which monitors communications worldwide, intercepted a phone call from one of Osama bin Laden's operatives in Afghanistan to a phone number in the former Soviet Republic of Georgia.

The caller said he had "heard good news" and that another target was still to come; an indication he knew another airliner, the one that eventually crashed in Pennsylvania, was at that very moment zeroing in on Washington.

[Lunabell]

36. Fucking war criminals!

And they're getting away with it! Makes my blood boil.

Separated at birth:


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[shadowmayor]

50. Creepy and Weird

And neither showed any remorse!

[passiveporcupine]

53. OMFG

They look just like twins!

[milestogo]

39. The mainstream press hides all kinds of stories

and most of the time Democratic Underground seems to not even notice.

[WillyT]

41. HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!

[Babel_17]

43. It highlights their lack of diligence in investigating

This is the same bunch that wasn't keen for marking the ten year anniversary of the invasion, and for good, albeit selfish, reason.

[Duppers]

44. Yes!!

[DesertRat]

45. k&r

[Skittles]

46. BRING IT ON

PUT THEM IN THE HOT SEAT

[uhnope]

48. is it really news? Big news?

Honest question. I'm not positive--for me the whole Iraq War has been so exposed as lies and manipulation, that I wonder if this is really a big revelation (except for the Blair angle which is news in UK). It might be, I'm just asking. Do you know?

If it is news, I think MSNBC, Dem. Now and yes even the major papers will pick it up.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

49. Is the Washington Post covering it?

[cprise]

58. Why would they necessarily cover it?

This is post mega-merger era... not 1971.

My first pick for high profile coverage would be Snowden's pick... The Guardian. Others would be Der Speigle, The Intercept, Al Jazeera, Le Monde, Vice, Salon, HuffPo, Rolling Stone, Esquire, New Yorker, ...?

[JEB]

51. K&R&bookmark

[billhicks76]

52. Hillary Is Our Tony Blair

[gwheezie]

54. The 1% doctrine

Has a pretty detailed accounting of the mess.
I think we do need to push the msm even though most of us knew the deceit that was a prelude to Iraq. Because ya want emails, here are the emails.
I remember years ago the big deal about Sandy Berger stuffing classified documents in his pants and the right-wing went wild demanding he be jailed it was a joke because the bush family had just as much to lose as the Clinton's did. When it comes right down to it, they close ranks and protect each other.
Anyway there is a whole different way the established government handles things than we know of and then those folks don't even want to admit they don't know all of it.

[passiveporcupine]

55. Long before I started reading DU, I read everything about

The New American Century and I knew exactly what they were up to and that they were pushing us into war with Iraq. I was so pissed I didn't know what do to.

That fact that this info was available to me on-line as a political novice, yet Clinton did not somehow see it, has made me realize she did not want to see it. That is why I will never trust her.

[avaistheone1]

60. K&R

[Spitfire of ATJ]

61. There was talk of invading Iraq before 9/11.

[Major Hogwash]

65. We're talking about the nitty gritty, getting deep down into the details now, though.

In order for prosecutors to be successful, just finding out about "talk" or discussions between members of Dubya's administration about Dubya committing treason is not enough evidence to go to trial with.

Bringing conspiracies out in to the bright light of day must rely on hard evidence -- actual information that can be used as evidence -- such as letters, documents, paperwork, plans that were written down, phone records, and maybe even maps that were drawn, in order to use as hard evidence in court.
Not just simply offering hearsay testimony of supposed conversations between the conspirators.

What occurred between 9/11 and the start of the Iraq War in Dubya's administration, what was always obvious to the skeptics, has been speculation of the informed . . until now.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

72. There was a memo prior to this between the US and UK....

It talked about the WMD intelligence being crafted around the policy of invading.

[raccoon]

69. Yep. It's mentioned in THE PRICE OF LOYALTY. nt

[SusanaMontana41]

63. Thanks for the link. Bookmarked. eom

[Kablooie]

64. Read the dang email. It's NOT damning.

It confirms he will support "public affairs lines" but doesn't explain what they are.
There is no indication it refers to disinformation.

Also he will be with us should "military operations be necessary".
That's not damning either. To prepare for conflict is essential whether it's likely or not.

Yes these statements may refer to damning incidents but then again they may not.
The email does not say.

Knowing they defrauded the public doesn't prove this letter refers to that.

[Javaman]

67. dick chaney says, "no one give a damn about georges* emails!"

sorry couldn't resist.

[hobbit709]

68. The chance of the press paying attention to me is equal to the chance of me winning the lottery.

[NonMetro]

70. The "Document" At The "email exchange" link From Colin Powell Is Dated 4-1-12

Little late for April fool's jokes, isn't it?

[YoungDemCA]

71. Here are some other articles:

Tony Blair will help US on Iraq, 2002 memo says
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-34565075

Iraq war bombshell: Leaked memo shows Tony Blair committed to Bush’s war a full year before the invasion
http://www.salon.com/2015/10/19/iraq_war_bombshell_leaked_memo_shows_tony_blair_committed_to_bushs_war_a_full_year_before_the_invasion/

This is the memo that suggests Tony Blair backed the Iraq war a year before invading
http://qz.com/527088/this-is-the-memo-that-suggests-blair-backed-the-iraq-war-a-year-before-invading/

[d_legendary1]

73. These are the emails the media should be looking at!

But since its corporate owned what do they care about the truth? Lies make for more revenues.

[red dog 1]

74. K&R

[napkinz]

75. kick