And so it begins...

[MynameisBlarney]

Last edited Wed Oct 14, 2015, 04:04 PM - Edit history (2)

From the local paper. Neighborhood flooded from unusually high tides. *EDITED FOR ACCURACY* And it doesn't help that the neighborhood is also built on a marsh and is slowly sinking.


http://keylargofreepress.com/node/70358

[pugetres]

1. High tides?

Why does the article mention: “Our whole neighborhood is actually sinking, we were built on a marsh,” she said. “It shouldn’t have been allowed to be built the way it was. The county approved the neighborhood to be built, and the county should maintain it.”?

[MynameisBlarney]

6. Yes. High tides.

Higher than normal tides were mentioned several times throughout the article.
The fact that the neighborhood was built on a marsh and is sinking as well, makes the situation even worse.

[JackInGreen]

2. Jeeeezus

Truly the greatest threat to our nation.

[99th_Monkey]

3. That's why Bernie's answer to "what's our biggest national security threat?" was perfect

"Climate Change!"

[1StrongBlackMan]

4. I give him Kudos for that answer. n/t

[B2G]

5. It appears that the land is actually sinking

“Our whole neighborhood is actually sinking, we were built on a marsh,” she said. “It shouldn’t have been allowed to be built the way it was. The county approved the neighborhood to be built, and the county should maintain it.”


The Free Press asked Monroe County Commissioner Sylvia Murphy to respond to Prew’s comments.


“This is true, it’s an old neighborhood. Yes, we did,” said Murphy, referring to the fact that the county approved the neighborhood. “At least one of the roads in there is a private road, the rest are county.”

[MynameisBlarney]

8. Ayup.

Hell, the entire state is one big sinkhole waiting to happen.

But it's a double whammy with the higher than normal tides.

[hunter]

7. We're should figure out how to move entire communities...

... and restore developed coastlines back to some kind of natural state.

Of course we won't... This is Merika! Every man for himself!

People will drown, be forced to relocate as climate change refugees, and the final wreckage of their lost communities will pollute the oceans and shores.

And where the wealthy and powerful live, trillions will be spent on ultimately futile reconstructions and storm defenses.

-sigh-

[KamaAina]

15. This is in the Florida Keys

not a whole lot of high, dry land left to do that.

[Hortensis]

9. Our little place is on a canal off the estuary of a large river

where it runs intoTampa Bay, and the kind of high tides that come with big storms bring the water over the seawall right up the grass slope, across the lower patio, and up the stairs to just short of the upper patio where our MH sits. So far. Our coop, full of snowbirds who have secure homes far away, hasn't faced the reality of either raising the entire park or selling the land to a developer yet.

[MynameisBlarney]

10. Oh fun...

I've been trying to convince my dad to either sell the business relocate, but no dice.

[Hortensis]

11. I like your "editing for accuracy." LOL. Maybe your dad hopes

disaster will hold off until he would be ready to close or sell anyway?

That's part of our thinking and willingness to accept flood risk. Also, we deliberately purchased a no-real-value 60-year-old MH, instead of "stick-built," as it could float away and be replaced for very little. DH probably only has another decade or so of taking his own boat out, then we'll need a place where he can walk to a good fishing pier and meet friends at a boat ramp. Too bad seas are rising even faster than our initial worst "likely" projections, though.

We also have that problem of road drains that can't drain when water's high. I'd like to think we're in a better position than if we were in Key Largo, but tell that to the one flood we're hoping won't happen any time soon...

Good luck to you guys.

[onethatcares]

14. and will the developer

tell the new buyers how bad it really is? Or will he pocket the money, shake hands and later say, "it never happened here before, must be a confluence of high tides, full moons, and gravitational pull that brought the waters up this high". Not my fault, sue gaud.

[Hortensis]

16. Yes, the developer will. That nasty "liability" thing the GOP is always trying to get off

the backs of business makes that wise. (Long ago I worked in commercial property and casualty insurance, understood the small words in thick policies for a living.)

But, with risk management in mind, the developers will make new construction as good as current engineering knowledge says it needs to be. Tall and strong seawalls will be built, patios for the residents laid far above where my little garden is now, and structures built to what are actually pretty good hurricane codes. Nothing's indestructible, but I wouldn't be afraid to live in what may replace us.

Or not. My own wish is that our mobile home cooperative park become one of the few little antique enclaves of middle class folk that will interrupt wealthy private neighborhoods that will one day line almost all of our beautiful coasts. Unless we stop it, of course. Parks like ours are disappearing more and more quickly. Adequate seawalls, plumbing, etc., cost money.

[onethatcares]

17. understood

I live in St Pete and have watched the demise of the parks. Sheesh I must have vinyl sided 1000 of mobiles over the years along with converting screen rooms to living rooms, doing floors and kitchens, installing cabinets and roof overs.

Bad thing, MONEY has a long deep reach and developers know that.

Hope your plan works out.

[Hortensis]

21. You've really seen what's happening, then. It's not just MH parks,

though, and not just Florida. All over the country, the most beautiful and desirably located land is being taken over by people of wealth and the various working classes pushed into areas the wealthy don't want. In some places access to what was once considered everyone's is completely blocked to those who'd at least like to drive over now and then.

[Mendocino]

20. My Grandparents

had a nice MH in St. Pete. Tree lined streets, little ponds, mini-golf course that you could walk to, a five minute car ride to Madiera Beach. It was directly across from the VA. Now it's a Walmart.

[Hortensis]

22. Exactly. I'm afraid people don't really see the big picture of

what's happening and don't realize what is being lost. Once gone, there's no going back. It's not about just mobile homes, of course, or even mostly.

BTW, a friend offered to sell us his place in the St. Pete area, north end of the bay, that sounds very similar. No ponds, but the park is on the water and you can walk easily to excellent shopping. No boat docks for my husband, so we had to pass.

[jwirr]

12. With evidence like this have the real estate prices been

affected yet? I think that is when people pretty much will start believing in climate change.

[MynameisBlarney]

18. That, and when they can't get insurance.

There's only one company that will insure against storm damage here in the Keys.
All the rest tucked tail and ran after Andrew.

[jwirr]

19. I am sorry for those of you that are going to lose homes

because many of those homes were invested in long before the warnings started. That is one of the things about insurance companies - you can pay into them for a lifetime and get nothing back. We saw that in the field of medicine.

One of the things I am really shocked about is that HGTV still is building those new homes they use to advertise the latest trends are still building in places that are facing this danger.

[onethatcares]

13. quick someone call

pRick Scott. I'm sure he'll tell them "jobs, jobs, jobs" and that climate change and the rest of that doesn't exist.