Senate Democrats who voted for TPP "fast track"

[SHRED]

Barf.

[Octafish]

1. Shame what greed does.

Certainly blurred the hell out of the line between Democrats and Republicans.

[yourout]

2. Otherwise known as the Blue Dog all star team.

[davidn3600]

3. Yet these same Democrats will claim they are fighting for the little guy

What a bunch of bullshit.

[Enthusiast]

7. Yes. Total bullshit.

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[zeemike]

9. They say the words but their actions speak clear.

And I suppose we are to blame because we seem satisfied with just the words.

[Scuba]

42. Bullshit with whipped cream and a cherry on top.

Still bullshit.

[stillwaiting]

4. We have more in the Senate that would have if they were needed.

We need to take back the Party from the New Democrats.

They've been ridiculously effective in changing the Party to BECOME New Democrats.

[merrily]

45. BOOM! BOOM! BOOM! On top of everything else, KABUKI reigns.

[jwirr]

5. All I need to do is look for the candidates who are running

against these traitors to know who I want to donate to in the primary season. Heitcamp keeps sending me donation requests. NO WAY.

[fizzgig]

38. no one is going to run against bennet

he was challenged in 2010 and the party establishment threw everything behind him.

i hate that i have to say this, but he's still better than a puke and colorado is swinging right again. i didn't think udall would lose to gardner last year, but oh boy howdy, was i wrong.

[jwirr]

52. Yeah, I know that they are better than the pukes. And there

are others on that list who are going to make it with or without our donations because they are "inevitable".

When our own party is obstructing democracy we are in big trouble.

[merrily]

44. Even if you donate to a liberal, your money gets to the Blue Dogs/DINOs anyway.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12778505


The game is rigged six ways to Tuesday

[jwirr]

53. I actually understand helping a conservative Democrat in

some place like Nebraska. It is all about being the majority in the House and Senate which is important because we get to run the committees, etc..

But to do it behind our backs with no explanation. I am really beginning to feel like a name on a list of suckers instead of an American voter.

The supposed leaders of this party are all jumping up to follow the inevitable leader without one thought to the voters. Who cares what the voters think. Last night I emailed all of my endorsers and gave them a piece of my mind. When they take over the selection of our nominee this early they are working against the people - those of us who bother to go to the caucuses and elections and try to have a say.

This morning I am in a "F you" attitude toward the whole party leadership because that is what they are saying to us.

[haikugal]

6. Did they all endorse Clinton? nt

[Enthusiast]

8. I bet they did.

[DemByDefault]

10. But but but.. They have a D next to their name!

I read here the other day from a Camp Weathervane surrogate that all u have to do is look at the letter beside ones name. If it's an R then they are evil and never to be trusted! But as long as one has a D beside the name then we should have complete faith in their judgment at all times! Every one,
except that terrible gun nut Bernie fella!!!1! (Ewww)

[nxylas]

11. He doesn't have a D next to his name

At least half of all Camp Weathervane's criticisms of him centre on his refusal to wear the team jersey.

[DemByDefault]

12. The horror!!!

I'm convinced now, he just can't be trusted!

[cui bono]

34. Whoosh!

You just made their point.

Politics as team sport is a losing game for everyone.

[SammyWinstonJack]

15. Camp Weathervane...

[closeupready]

19. +1

[Cassiopeia]

25. That was my first thought.

[restorefreedom]

33. mccaskill is big clinton surrogate

hmmmmmm

[DhhD]

51. Is the revolving door waiting in the wings?

[djean111]

13. Here in Florida, Bill Nelson will never get another vote from me.

I now use the membership list of the New Democrat Coalition as my guide to DINOs. Senate version and US version. Wasserman-DINO and Patrick Murphy are on that list, as is Gwen Graham.
They have scrubbed up their agenda, but they are advised by members of the Third Way.
NO MORE VOTES. For those who voted for it, or shilled for the TPP.

[Thespian2]

23. I live in Canada...

but as an American citizen, I vote in Florida...

My list of unfavourables matches yours...I, too, will not vote for anyone in the New Democrat Coalition..or any 1%er for that matter...

[JCMach1]

28. He is also almost useless in getting help for his constituents...

With an issue I had two years back, I actually had to work with Rubio's office to get something done. They were extremely pro-active and helpful. Nelson's people, CRICKETS.

[Duppers]

14. Both my republites senators! Grrr.

[Autumn]

16. Not one surprise there. I knew Bennet would be there.

[Eric J in MN]

22. Did you know Jeanne Shaheen would vote for Fast Track? NT

NT

[Cassidy]

29. I will never vote for Bennet.

Appointing Bennet is the worst mistake Governor Ritter made. When the multimillionaire, son-of-an-ambassador Bennet campaigned around Colorado, feigning to be some up-by-his-own-bootstraps log-cabin-building everyman, I knew he would not be supporting regular people.

I contacted Bennet's office a few months ago with my concern that the generic medicine I need to live tripled in price over the previous 8 months and asking him to support Senator Sanders and Rep. Cummings investigations. I got a form letter about how great Obamacare is. Fine, Obamacare is great, but if people can't afford their meds, they will die in spite of Obamacare. (My medicine has now quadrupled in price in 12 months.)

I have done my share of voting for the lesser of evils, but I will never vote for Bennet. I hope he loses his seat next year, even if to a Republican, so a real Democrat can take it back in 6 years.

[Bluenorthwest]

18. Cantwell, Carper, Feinstein, Murray, Nelson and Wyden are all also yes votes on both NAFTA and

CAFTA, having been present in either the House or the Senate for all three votes. I point this out because many DUers were very surprised by their votes, which were actually very predictable votes.

[rhett o rick]

32. The liberals of the great state of Washington are not proud. Of course Sen Cantwell was

a member of the DLC so we might expect her to sell the 99% down the drain, but Sen Murray, I expected more. Damn them both and damn the Oligarchy.

[cascadiance]

39. We need Senator DeFazio representing Oregon in 2016!!!

Let's grow the Sanders wing of the party!

[Eric J in MN]

20. Isn't Jeanne Shaheen a liberal? Why did she vote for Fast Track? NT

NT

[sarge43]

41. She plays one on TV

I think she's sucking up for a cabinet post in a Clinton WH.

[merrily]

46. Depends on what your definition of "liberal" is.

[Elwood P Dowd]

21. Liars and traitors. (nm)

[pampango]

26. There significant support among Democratic voters for it, so it's not too surprising that

some Democratic politicians would be for it.



http://www.people-press.org/2015/10/02/contrasting-partisan-perspectives-on-campaign-2016/

Among Democrats and "Democratic leaners" there was support for 'expanding trade agreements' by 45% to 19%. Republicans and 'republican leaners' were less likely to support a candidate that 'expanded trade agreements'.

TPP is not specifically mentioned in the poll, though.

[merrily]

48. This is not about TPP per se. but about fast track.

As far as TPP itself:

As if the average voter knows what it is or what it does.

As if House and Senate acts based on how constiutents poll.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12777036


Please.

This is a top down selling job. There was never a grass roots up movement for TPP.

[pampango]

54. Granted, though polls show Democrats more supportive of 'fast track' too.

As if the average voter knows what it is or what it does.

That is true for supporters and opponents, Democrats and republicans alike. It will be interesting to see how the details of the final agreement affect these numbers.

Without 'fast track' the provisions that are angering Big Tobacco and Big Pharma would undoubtedly be changed by the republican congress along with any other liberal aspects of the agreement. While provisions that liberals would like to see added to the agreement would, of course, never pass through congress.

[merrily]

55. See my prior reply.

[fredamae]

27. Keep an eye on them

now that they've promoted and passed Fast Track...Dems votes are no longer needed, most likely for the Up/Down vote coming up....

So, perhaps one plan is to allow us time to forget about these corporatist democrats going Against their respective states citizen majority position in Opposition-so then they can be the Progressive Hero's when that -likely way down the road and buffered by Tons of other crises and scandals-up/down vote actually happens.
HRC in recent statements re: TPP is leading the way and blazing that trail on their behalf.

I don't trust a single one of these dem arses and I am not surprised by their support and PUSH for TPP.
They are truly the bottom of the barrel - politically speaking - and "we" all deserve better.

[mhatrw]

30. Another Fein mess. nt

[hobbit709]

31. The usual suspects.

[cui bono]

35. DiFi..

[denbot]

36. Yeah, I was not surprised to see her name

I can't believe we keep her around.

[cascadiance]

40. DiFi made a big deal about pushing an assault weapons ban after Sandy Hook which was filibustered...

... and at the same time in that start of a new senate, voted AGAINST Merkley's rule changes attempting to shut down the filibuster. So did she really want just the theater for her bill and WANT it to not pass? Me thinks so! That is the kind of senator she is. More what's behind the scenes than what she does for the people of this country.

[merrily]

49. The Party protects incumbents. Three words: Lieberman v. Lamont.

And that is only one example.

The party will also protect the more conservative Democrat.

[artislife]

37. I am so mad

at Murray and Cantwell. I sent letters to both. Never hear anything but more donation pleas. Eff em.

[KansDem]

43. I'd like to know what their logic was...if any

More like "TPP fast whack"

[kelliekat44]

47. Wonder what they say that we didn't? Maybe the agreement? Maybe they have more info than we do? n

[merrily]

50. $$$$$$ Also, fast track authority is the subject of the thread, not the

terms of the TPP agreement.

[Omaha Steve]

56. Marta and I have donated to several of them in the past

We are keeping this list! Thanks for posting.

K&R!

OS