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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 09:29 PM Oct 2015

Shooting in Oregon: 11 essential facts about guns and mass shootings in America

Shooting in Oregon: 11 essential facts about guns and mass shootings in America

By Max Ehrenfreund October 1



Numerous people are reportedly dead in a shooting on the campus of a community college in rural Oregon. It's the latest incident of gun violence in a series this year, including a shooting at a movie theater in Lafayette, La. and another at a church in Charleston, S.C.

It is not yet clear how many people have been killed in Thursday morning's incident at Umqua Community College in Douglas County or the full circumstances of the shooting.

In this post, adapted from previous versions after mass killings in the past, we explore America's unique role among advanced countries as a place where support for guns is widespread -- as is violence involving firearms.


1. Shooting sprees are not rare in the United States.

3. Active shooter events have become more common in recent years.

4. Of the 12 deadliest shootings in the United States, at least half happened after 2007.

7. More guns tend to mean more homicide.

8. States with stricter gun control laws have fewer deaths from gun-related violence.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2015/10/01/shooting-in-oregon-11-essential-facts-about-guns-and-mass-shootings-in-america/

The United States Has Had More Mass Shootings Than Any Other Country
We're No. 1, according to a new study.

—By Samantha Michaels | Sun Aug. 23, 2015 12:05 AM EDT


http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/08/united-states-world-mass-shooters


This is for all the gun lovers around here who are under the delusion that mass killings with guns are a rare event.
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TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
1. Regarding No. 8
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 10:12 PM
Oct 2015

That's only true if you include suicides. Exclude suicides and states with more liberal gun laws make up half of the safest states in the top 10. And Maryland, which has some of the strictest gun laws in the US, ranks 45th, while DC, which probably has the strictest, ranks last. And of course, the laws proposed to decrease gun murders are often unrelated to the issues that cause suicides, so why conflate the two issues?

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
2. If number 7 were true,
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 10:19 PM
Oct 2015

then why has the homicide rate fallen by appox 50% in the last 20 years, yet firearm sales have been booming?

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. If gun crimes are falling, why do yahoos keep buying more gunz? Gun crime rate might be even lower
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 11:09 PM
Oct 2015

without so many guns.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
4. Because people buy guns for other reasons beside self defense?
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 11:12 PM
Oct 2015

It is not that complicated Hoyt.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
5. Gee Hoyt, maybe because for those of us that aren't prohibited, Hint,
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 11:16 PM
Oct 2015

we want to, that's all the reason you or anyone else deserves or needs.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
9. My desires have nothing to do with what's best for society,
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 11:28 PM
Oct 2015

but thanks for your concerns, I don't feel the need to reassess my desires.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
12. You don't think your 4 gun safes full of gunz and ammo are part of the problem?
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 11:33 PM
Oct 2015

Wayne LaPierre and Ted Nugent would kiss you for your support of more guns in our society.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
15. No, I don't.
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 11:40 PM
Oct 2015

How are my firearms, which are locked up in safes, a threat to society?
The only thing Wayne and Teddy can kiss is my ass.
I do support the right for a non prohibited person, again, Hint, to exercise their right to keep and bear arms.

Ichigo Kurosaki

(167 posts)
17. How are my firearms, which are locked up in safes, a threat to society?
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 11:50 PM
Oct 2015

They aren't, but some haters got to hate.

To a jury if this gets alerted, I am not naming any individual, just the attitude of the anti-gunners.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
14. Yeah, but it's not because yahoos are buying more gunz. Again, it might well
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 11:38 PM
Oct 2015

be lower with less guns and tougher restrictions.

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