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doesn't make sense........... (Original Post) kpete Oct 2015 OP
K&R... spanone Oct 2015 #1
Also..K & R... Stuart G Oct 2015 #8
K&R from this yuiyoshida Oct 2015 #21
We work together, except when GOPers are in power deminks Oct 2015 #2
Makes too much goddamn common sense riderinthestorm Oct 2015 #3
Too bad that doesn't apply to uninterrupted war.... Rafale Oct 2015 #4
Wow. Excellent summary, Rafale. jomin41 Oct 2015 #7
I was just reading about that: kpete Oct 2015 #9
Wow, what is excuse for this, I wonder. SammyWinstonJack Oct 2015 #18
Mix in a paragraph. Darb Oct 2015 #11
:) Rafale Oct 2015 #17
+1000 - a great "two cents"! erronis Oct 2015 #14
So much money for uninterrupted war but nothing for any thing of importance SammyWinstonJack Oct 2015 #15
. haikugal Oct 2015 #26
Great post. You have written my thoughts exactly. nt Mojorabbit Oct 2015 #28
Great meme Gothmog Oct 2015 #5
i know i am home kpete Oct 2015 #27
One of the finest paragraphs ever written or said about this subject.. Stuart G Oct 2015 #6
The Republican Party may be better defined as the Kult of Kooks and Augiedog Oct 2015 #10
I can hear the republicants now..... SmittynMo Oct 2015 #12
talk show gun proponent NJCher Oct 2015 #19
Did you see he's put his name in for President. C Moon Oct 2015 #32
yes NJCher Oct 2015 #35
K&R mcar Oct 2015 #13
K&R madamvlb Oct 2015 #16
How Rafale Oct 2015 #20
Massive K&R..... daleanime Oct 2015 #22
Until we all look the NRA in the eye and say "Fuck You", nothing will change. NRA is leading us... whereisjustice Oct 2015 #23
Right! swilton Oct 2015 #24
K & R!!! Enough of the tail wagging the dog! LuckyLib Oct 2015 #25
K & R!!! Thespian2 Oct 2015 #29
When police kill black people, very little is done hughee99 Oct 2015 #30
I Disagree With Him erpowers Oct 2015 #31
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Oct 2015 #33
it makes perfect sense to gun humping cowards Skittles Oct 2015 #34
Nothing will ever happen until some lunatic shoots up a session of Congress. smirkymonkey Oct 2015 #36

deminks

(11,006 posts)
2. We work together, except when GOPers are in power
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 08:58 AM
Oct 2015

GOPers block any safer mine bills.

GOPers want mega restrictions on relief aid - see Katrina response

GOPers block any and all infrastructure spending bills

GOPers have not been successful at undoing seatbelt laws and motorcycle helmet laws

So, you see, GOPer response to mass killings is consistent - do nothing

Rafale

(291 posts)
4. Too bad that doesn't apply to uninterrupted war....
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 09:19 AM
Oct 2015

Our culture is perhaps obsessed with violence and its starts at the top. More than 20 percent of the population has not been alive a day that we were not at war. War is almost uninterrupted: World War II, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the War on Drugs, the Global War on Terror, and many, many undeclared wars and military actions few of you know. We have the largest, most powerful military the world has ever seen and yet we continually fear attack. We sell more weapons to foreign lands than any other country on Earth, ever. At home, we advocate Old Testament eye-for-an-eye justice and hypocritically judge madmen, who chop off heads. A majority of Americans say they favor torture as a useful tool when proven that torture does not work. Fact is most Americans don’t respect human life and then we pretend to be shocked when a mentally ill child kills with a gun. We enjoy watching it; how else could a recent movie like Mad Max do well and make millions. We blame the gun, not the monster committing the act, perhaps because inside we know we are the monster. Perhaps there is hope. We don’t blame a martini when a drunk driver kills. We blame the driver and thank God because I enjoy a good martini. Cognitive dissonance is like a thief in the night, robbing people of right reason. I’m not quite sure where we are headed but when I heard the President speak yesterday I thought I watched a ship on a rough sea without a rudder. I am baffled by feigned abhorrence of violence while simultaneously prosecuting war on a global scale, involved in conflicts that are not vital to our survival as a nation. Even when generals, admirals, and the warrior class tell the country that the wars need to end, America continues to advocate continued war and for new wars. It’s disturbing. Does anyone ever stop to think about who were are, what we represent, and where we need to go during the next 100 years? Is 100 years of war is the answer? How truly lame, weak, and shortsighted. Anyway that’s just my two cents. Even though violent crime is on the decline, there will be another mentally ill person shooting up a gun-free venue (because no one will be returning fire there) and we will be fighting in a new foreign land before the year is done. I wish voters would wake up and look behind the bull in our media, the Congress, and the President.

So much bs. One day we criticize the Russians for blowing up civilians in Syria and the next day we blow up Doctors without Borders in Afghanistan.

jomin41

(559 posts)
7. Wow. Excellent summary, Rafale.
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 09:33 AM
Oct 2015

We promote, encourage, and teach violence and disrespect for human life every day, in every State, in countless ways.

kpete

(71,900 posts)
9. I was just reading about that:
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 09:36 AM
Oct 2015
http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/article/afghanistan-msf-staff-killed-hospital-partially-destroyed-kunduz

Your last sentence reflects my thoughts too:
So much bs. One day we criticize the Russians for blowing up civilians in Syria and the next day we blow up Doctors without Borders in Afghanistan.

peace,
kp

erronis

(14,945 posts)
14. +1000 - a great "two cents"!
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 10:07 AM
Oct 2015
Cognitive dissonance is like a thief in the night, robbing people of right reason.


So many quotable thoughts.

SammyWinstonJack

(44,129 posts)
15. So much money for uninterrupted war but nothing for any thing of importance
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 10:14 AM
Oct 2015

when needed on the home front.

Seems killing is all that really matters, be it our own for lack of funding or others in foreign lands in wars for profit.


What a great country we got here.

Stuart G

(38,359 posts)
6. One of the finest paragraphs ever written or said about this subject..
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 09:29 AM
Oct 2015


And that paragraph is the truth....

as is this sentence.."Republicans don't give a sh-t about the truth"....

Augiedog

(2,541 posts)
10. The Republican Party may be better defined as the Kult of Kooks and
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 09:41 AM
Oct 2015

has become more dangerous to American democracy than any terrorist group. If China had found a way to insulate itself from the affects of climate change while at the same time causing the results to be felt elsewhere in the world the Kult of Kooks would be up in arms and sending everyone ( but themselves or their family members) off to war. If a Middle Eastern nation started mass exportation of weapons to America and giving them to minority communities claiming that these communities were suppressed rebel forces who had need of help to protect themselves from American apartheid the Kult of Kooks would go wild. If the UN placed sanctions on America for its mass murder of the poor through starvation and denial of health care the Kult of Kooks would, again, go nuts....but then that is their normal state of existence so .......never mind.

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
12. I can hear the republicants now.....
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 09:59 AM
Oct 2015

Holy shit, he's really going to take our guns. I think he means it this time.

NJCher

(35,423 posts)
19. talk show gun proponent
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 10:25 AM
Oct 2015

That's what that idiot George Noory started his program with. Noory is a big-time gun advocate. He started off with an aggrieved tone of voice over the shootings. Then he transitioned to how pitiful it would be if we restricted guns.

He has done this time and time again, every time there is a mass shooting.

Most people admit George Noory is not very bright. This is a classic example of his inability to see the connections described so well in Rafale's post upthread.


Cher

NJCher

(35,423 posts)
35. yes
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 09:52 AM
Oct 2015

He has a small group of sycophants who flatter him and who are telling him he should run for president. One of them is Jerome Corsi, who makes a living writing books that attack people like John Kerry. Alone, these people wouldn't get any news coverage, but Noory regularly gives them a spot on his show. Corsi was on the other night, giving this spiel.


Cher

Rafale

(291 posts)
20. How
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 10:30 AM
Oct 2015

How could anyone take the President seriously while the US Armed Forces are being used in combat in scores of countries, creating misery, pain, and refugees on such a grand scale. We are the number one seller of weapons on the planet. We are also cited in global surveys as the greatest threat to peace on the planet. How could the gentleman, talk about his astonishment when he is a major force for global violence? <smh>

Does anyone stop for a moment to think about all of this (besides Senator Sanders)?

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
23. Until we all look the NRA in the eye and say "Fuck You", nothing will change. NRA is leading us...
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 11:17 AM
Oct 2015

to our own slaughter. Like sheep.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
30. When police kill black people, very little is done
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 10:13 PM
Oct 2015

About it until the people themselves press the issue. Government's track record on seeing problems and making things safer isn't as good as this quote might make it seem.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
31. I Disagree With Him
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 11:12 PM
Oct 2015

Yes, when mine disasters happen we try to make mines safer. However, the owners of those mines try as hard as possible not to make mines safer. On occasion when hurricanes and floods kill people we fix the communities. However, sometimes we do not. In addition, even when things do get fixed it only happens after a major tragedy. Years before Hurricane Katrina occurred it was know that if a major strength storm hit New Orleans and the Gulf Coast it would be devastating. However, nothing was done until Hurricane Katrina occurred. When it come to roads and bridges things are even worse. A few years ago a bridge collapsed and multiple people were killed. The bridge was rebuilt, but very little, if anything, was done to prevent the same thing from happening in other cities and states. Roads and bridges across the country are still falling apart and little to nothing is being done to prevent them from falling.

Gun violence is not really different from any other issue in America. There are just some politicians who do not want to do what needs to be done to prevent problems.

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