Fri Sep 18, 2015, 12:55 PM
Stargazer99 (2,207 posts)
You "right to lifers" out there answer this question
I feel Baby Doe would have been much better off having been aborted
rather than the horrible death she must have suffered at possibly parental hands there is a lot more to life than just breathing when you start supporting healthcare, good education, mental health services (not all parents are loving people and that creates a societal problem) a place to call home..until you can solve those problems SHUT UP because you really don't care about human life.
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Stargazer99 | Sep 2015 | OP |
hollysmom | Sep 2015 | #1 | |
Phentex | Sep 2015 | #4 | |
virtualobserver | Sep 2015 | #8 | |
MineralMan | Sep 2015 | #2 | |
mahatmakanejeeves | Sep 2015 | #6 | |
MineralMan | Sep 2015 | #12 | |
mahatmakanejeeves | Sep 2015 | #13 | |
smirkymonkey | Sep 2015 | #3 | |
jwirr | Sep 2015 | #5 | |
smirkymonkey | Sep 2015 | #11 | |
jwirr | Sep 2015 | #14 | |
YabaDabaNoDinoNo | Sep 2015 | #7 | |
WinkyDink | Sep 2015 | #10 | |
WinkyDink | Sep 2015 | #9 | |
Brickbat | Sep 2015 | #15 |
Response to Stargazer99 (Original post)
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 12:57 PM
hollysmom (5,946 posts)
1. rather than use thiat argument, I prefer
stating that I believe more fetuses die in miscarriage because of the lack of prenatal care available to the poor. I don't have the statistics, but am willing to guess that is true - not to mention babies that suffer from lack of nutrition when parents are denied food stamps.
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Response to hollysmom (Reply #1)
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 01:03 PM
Phentex (16,281 posts)
4. That's a good comeback...
I am sorta going for the wording in the OP when I argue with these nutballs, but I think your first line may be more effective.
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Response to hollysmom (Reply #1)
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 01:14 PM
virtualobserver (8,760 posts)
8. that is powerful
it forces them to take responsibility for their policies that harm the poor
although in terms of food stamps, the right wing doesn't care about anyone who has been born. I recently read a quote from a Catholic activist who said that the RW are not pro-life, they are pro-birth, |
Response to Stargazer99 (Original post)
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 12:57 PM
MineralMan (145,720 posts)
2. Do you have come context for this post, please?
Does this relate to a news story or something?
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Response to MineralMan (Reply #2)
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 01:10 PM
mahatmakanejeeves (54,116 posts)
6. Major break in Baby Doe case; Neighbors describe missing girl next door
Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #6)
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 01:21 PM
MineralMan (145,720 posts)
12. Thanks!
Response to MineralMan (Reply #12)
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 01:39 PM
mahatmakanejeeves (54,116 posts)
13. You must have looked away from the Internet for ten seconds.
What were you thinking?
(Please, people: sarcasm.) |
Response to Stargazer99 (Original post)
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 12:58 PM
smirkymonkey (63,221 posts)
3. I live in Boston and have been hearing about this on the news all day.
WFH today. It's so tragic. Why do people bring children into the world that they don't want, can't love or take care of. It's cruel. Much worse than abortion in my opinion.
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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #3)
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 01:08 PM
jwirr (39,215 posts)
5. I would remove "can't take care of" as that usually
depends on circumstances beyond ones control.
Poverty is often merely a result of the market. You can get a divorce, go bankrupt, make a bad investment, be hit by a storm that takes out everything you own, not be able to find a job and bingo - you are in poverty. I we insist that the economics should determine if one can have a child we just need to abort all children - because tomorrow you could end up poor or rich depending on the market. |
Response to jwirr (Reply #5)
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 01:18 PM
smirkymonkey (63,221 posts)
11. It's not always about economics, but about determining beforehand whether you have
the capacity to properly care for a child. I am not poor, but I don't have children because a) I have no maternal instincts and b) I am fully aware of the fact that I am not capable of caring for a child properly.
It's kind of why I don't have a dog, even though I love them more than anything. Yes, I can't really afford to care for it properly (don't want to leave it alone all day while I am at work, so would want to pay for doggie day care, which I can't afford) and don't want the dog to stay home alone all day while I am at work so I don't have one. If my situation would change, I would get one. The point is that I think people really need to think about how well they are equipped to care for a child in every way (emotionally, logistically, financially, etc). If you don't think you can do it, don't have them. |
Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #11)
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 01:42 PM
jwirr (39,215 posts)
14. That is a good point. One of my grandsons is a gamer
and so is his girlfriend. My daughter and I have talked with them about not having children until they are ready to give up their addiction to games. The two have agreed that is a valid point. And I actually think more young couples are thinking this way.
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Response to Stargazer99 (Original post)
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 01:12 PM
YabaDabaNoDinoNo (460 posts)
7. The question to ask them is why did God let the kid die?
If everything is gods will why did God let it happen? Unless God wanted it to happen in the first place
Either God is all powerful and and all knowing or god is not. Take yer pick there is only one choice |
Response to YabaDabaNoDinoNo (Reply #7)
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 01:15 PM
WinkyDink (51,311 posts)
10. Could be both. Just not "All-Beneficent."
Response to Stargazer99 (Original post)
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 01:14 PM
WinkyDink (51,311 posts)
9. What is the question?
Response to Stargazer99 (Original post)
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 01:45 PM
Brickbat (19,339 posts)