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Thu Sep 3, 2015, 07:27 PM

Have you ever worked with someone who refused to do part of their legal job due to religious objecti

objections? Did their religion or morality related to religious belief get in the way of their job? What did you do, how was it dealt with?

30 years ago I worked with a nurse who refused to give people dying on hospice care narcotics because it was against her ethical standards to give drugs someone would get addicted to. Pointing out that they were dying, soon, didn't matter because she just could not do it, morally. She also could not care for a person who was a failed suicide because suicide is a sin and she could not support anyone who did that as they were sinners going to hell. Yes, living with a face half blown off and suffering sneers from her were not enough, the person was a sinner headed straight for hell. Eventually.

The director of nurses tried working with this nurse to get her patients that didn't offend her morality or religion. The only good thing was this nurse did not try to force the rest of us to work and believe like she did. Eventually she quit nursing, discovering that having an open mind was a bit necessary while working with people.

Since then I have worked with many people, some of whom held very strong religious beliefs, some very strong moral beliefs, some lacking either or both. But none as blatant as the first one I mentioned. That was a bit odd.

How about you?

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Sep 3, 2015, 07:29 PM

1. That person had no business at all being a nurse, not at all.

Fucking christ, i am so sick of these idiots who believe in fairy tales forcing their stupidity on everybody else

THERE IS NO GOD

it is make believe

SHEESH

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Response to randys1 (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 3, 2015, 07:38 PM

8. i agree that there is no god, but

i do respect other people's religion as long as they don't try to convert me.

i know several people who are religious. they know i'm an atheist and don't seem to have a problem with it. i don't tell people until they get to know me. when i told my hairdresser she said "but you're so spiritual".

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Response to randys1 (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 3, 2015, 08:01 PM

13. She is welcome to her beliefs so long as she did her job, didn't proselytize or hurt others

Other than that, she's welcome to believe in a god or gods or goddesses. I tire of people insulting others over their beliefs, religion or lack of.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #13)

Thu Sep 3, 2015, 08:30 PM

15. exactly. nt

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Sep 3, 2015, 07:31 PM

2. A long time ago, I was working in a software group wherein one guy was Seventh Day Adventist.

 

He would not work on Saturday, but would work on Sunday. So we worked around that, we would divide up assignments for weekends (which is when we would install new operating systems and new releases of the software) and he would come in on Sunday and run the final tests.
I was system manager, so I had to work Saturday and Sunday.

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Response to djean111 (Reply #2)

Thu Sep 3, 2015, 07:41 PM

10. i worked in a beauty salon with an orthodox

jew. we knew when he was hired that he would not work on saturdays. as long as his clients didn't mind neither did we. i'm talking about management. i was an assistant manager. maybe other hairdressers did mind, but we didn't hear anything about it.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Sep 3, 2015, 07:33 PM

3. Bottom line, if you cannot do your job as it is laid out for you in your stated job requirements,

then it is YOUR responsibility to leave and find a job more "suited" to your particular brand of fundamentalism. This is a slippery and dangerous slope and we cannot allow these people to have one more shred of power than they already have. If they do, this country will be unrecognizible within the next 15 - 20 years.

NO Tolerance. None. Do your job. Leave your religion at home.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 3, 2015, 07:42 PM

11. i agree -- but see my post #10.

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Response to DesertFlower (Reply #11)

Thu Sep 3, 2015, 08:04 PM

14. Oh, well something like that is reasonalbe. He is just requesting a certain day off

I wouldn't have problems with people taking certain holy days off (our company has floating holidays/flex days) or even taking time out to leave early if you need to be home by sundown if you need to leave early - as long as you make up the time in some other way or use vacation time.

My problem is that when a business advertises that they perform certain services and a consumer goes there expecting to get said services and the self-righteous religious clown doubles down and tells them why they can't serve them because they don' "believe in what they are doing". You could go crazy with this and imagine a 7th day adventist who was an EMT or ER worker refusing blood transfusions, a pharmacist refusing any number of drugs because he thinks they interfere w/ gods plan. And not just birth control, but viagra, psych meds (god wants you to suffer so that you will be closer to him }.
It's all a matter of respect and reason. I have no probelm cutting people slack for thier specical holiday. especially if we force ours on theirs. But some people take it to far. If you are that devoutly religious. Become a Nun or Monk or whaterver is around these days.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Sep 3, 2015, 07:34 PM

4. fortunately i've never had to deal with that.

i did work with a very religious woman but she did word processing in a law firm. conversations did get heated, but she was always very nice.

she didn't stay very long -- said her reason for leaving was she wanted to serve god. don't know what ever became of her.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Sep 3, 2015, 07:34 PM

5. I worked with a guy who literally believed humans and dinosaurs coexisted...

Fortunately we were in software test so aside from the bizarreness, his beliefs hurt no one

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Sep 3, 2015, 07:35 PM

6. The closest I came was a Jehovah's Witness

 

who would leave the office and go out on the back porch anytime anything hinting of a birthday or other celebration came up. It was kind of pitiful, actually.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Sep 3, 2015, 07:35 PM

7. One teacher at my husband's workplace was a Jehovah's Witness.

But you would never have known it. He did his job (and in those days that included Christmas and Halloween parties for the elementary school kids) without flinching. He never said a single word about his religion at school.

I (retrospectively) admire him for that. You do the job you're paid to do and keep your damned mouth shut about your personal belief system.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Sep 3, 2015, 07:40 PM

9. I've worked with a few fundegelical nurses over the years

and they all did their jobs. Only one ever preached and she preached to the wrong person and got shut down so hard she never did it again. No, it wasn't me, it was a gay guy who knew almost as many words as I do.

Anyone who refused to care for a patient for any reason would be out on her ass and looking for a new job wherever I worked.

I'm glad that prig you worked with is no longer a nurse. Some people are just not suited to the job and she'd be at the top of the list.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Sep 3, 2015, 07:48 PM

12. Never to my knowledge. nt

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Sep 3, 2015, 09:08 PM

16. With myself. Working is against my religion.

Every so often I feel like working.

I lie down until the feeling passes.

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