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FourScore

(9,704 posts)
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 06:54 PM Aug 2015

On Rightwing Christians: Have you noticed something odd about this Ashley Madison scandal?

Thu Aug 27, 2015 at 11:15 AM PDT
On Rightwing Christians: Have you noticed something odd about this Ashley Madison scandal?
by SemDem

Since the Ashley Madison scandal broke, I have noticed a distinct lack of condemnation from you rightwing christians.

Where are all the youtube hate videos against the subscribers practicing adultery?

Where are the droves of protestors picketing AshleyMadison.com like Planned Parenthood?

It's pretty clear where Jesus stands with cheating on your spouse. In case you missed the Commandment of "Thou shalt not covet they neighbor's wife", Jesus laid it out:

In Mathew 5:27-30 he said if you even look at another woman with desire, then cut out your eye because it's better to "lose one of your members than to have your whole body go to hell".

Lust > Cheat > Hell. Pretty straightforward. There were other things He directly condemned, like divorce. Yet He was most clear on His biggest pet peeve: excess wealth.

Yet those are three things that today's rightwing Christian doesn't care about.
Massive greed? That's called "prosperity gospel" now. The parable of Lazarus? They root for the rich guy in hell.

Divorce? Adultery? Child Molestation? whoopsey-daisies. No big whoop.

But gays and abortions? That's where they burst arteries! Two issues Jesus said NOTHING about. Both of those things existed during His time. If they are the epitome of evil, you'd think they'd at least warrant a mention. But nothing.

So what about actual sins that are specifically mentioned and given no leeway at all in the Bible? Meh.

In fact, on Mike Huckabee's old cheesy talk show five years ago he featured Ashley Madison's CEO to tell "his side" of the story. Yes, Mike disagreed with what Ashley Madison was doing but then added "I could be wrong".

Seriously, go to 11: 43 of this video. That's what he said:



There is no ambiguity in the Bible about adultery. And yet, while the Bible says nothing about abortion, here is Huckabee defending Paraguay's awful decision to force an 11-year old raped by her stepfather to bear a child. Here is a man who said he would not be against using federal troops to stop women from getting abortions! Here is a man calling for mass arrests over gay marriage. This is the same guy who convulsed with anger over gays being allowed to be happy.

In fact, Santorum, Huckabee, Cruz, et. al have said nothing about the AshleyMadison scandal or a word of condemnation to their millions of subscribers. Maybe they are worried about alienating some supporters, but that means their virulent rants on nonissues become even more meaningless. It's almost like they are full of something....

Clearly there is no righteous, religious hate espoused for those who abuse or leave their marriages like there is for those who are in stable, homosexual relationships. Despite what the Bible says, these guys SWEAR to me that they know exactly who Jesus hates.

And I find it absolutely amazing that it always happens to coincide with their preconceived prejudices. Go figure.

I'll bet if Jesus said to love their enemies, they'd find a way around it. (Oh wait...)

So you will have to excuse me when I roll my eyes over your next meltdown. Where is the indignant condemnation now?

Where is your moral outrage against these sinners?

You'll rally like crazy against things not even in the Bible, but ignore and stay silent about AshleyMadison.

I guess it's hard to condemn something that you probably have an account with.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/08/27/1416041/-On-Rightwing-Christians-Have-you-noticed-something-odd-about-this-Ashley-Madison-scandal
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On Rightwing Christians: Have you noticed something odd about this Ashley Madison scandal? (Original Post) FourScore Aug 2015 OP
Needs kicking for continued exposure of the truth AuntPatsy Aug 2015 #1
K&R peacebird Aug 2015 #2
And adulterers get cakes made for them without hassle n/t arcane1 Aug 2015 #3
"Christians" I know are very adept Hayduke Bomgarte Aug 2015 #4
it's not like the OT is that keen on usury, either MisterP Aug 2015 #14
Where "biblical edicts" conflict with "profit," "profit" wins. Hating Pope Francis Huddie94 Aug 2015 #32
American Pluralism! HenryWallace Aug 2015 #49
Did anyone bring up it to the Westboro Church folk? They missed it too? libdem4life Aug 2015 #5
Huckabee has a very special place ready for him in Hell. Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #6
The cricket-laden silence hifiguy Aug 2015 #7
Born again hypocrites. jalan48 Aug 2015 #8
Oh, COME ON ... you know they're just waiting to hear ... eppur_se_muova Aug 2015 #9
+1 Sophiegirl Aug 2015 #11
It like waiting for a train wreck when you know its coming.... Historic NY Aug 2015 #18
LOL Perfect! flygal Aug 2015 #21
Amen!!! Augiedog Aug 2015 #10
Rightwing Xtians feel they have already been saved and do not seek advice or truth nikto Aug 2015 #12
That's because the majority of fundy Xtians Tsiyu Aug 2015 #13
You just don't understand, Jesus Christ has nothing to do with Christianity. Christianity is about LiberalArkie Aug 2015 #15
Religion has always been about passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #16
Claiming/believing one has been been forgiven... 3catwoman3 Aug 2015 #17
It's the forgivness debit card.....if it's running a little low you yourout Aug 2015 #29
It's like that old joke: I use to pray for riches and wealth then I realized God doesn't work that fasttense Aug 2015 #35
Ha! That's perfect! Lorien Aug 2015 #50
Because those are *wink *wink just being a guy sins. ToxMarz Aug 2015 #19
They don't care about "sin" -- they care about patriarchy. senz Aug 2015 #20
And yes Kber Aug 2015 #22
Notice also, that the usual swarm of right-wing trolls ThoughtCriminal Aug 2015 #23
ALM took 20,269,675 x $19 x active-months-per-male for access to faked Huddie94 Aug 2015 #34
Ill kick this........... n/t Hotler Aug 2015 #24
K&R for a very well stated point,... MarianJack Aug 2015 #25
If any Democratic politician anywhere NewJeffCT Aug 2015 #26
+1 BeanMusical Aug 2015 #27
If I recall, in the months after 9/11 NewJeffCT Aug 2015 #42
Blll Maher got fired, and caused serious outrage when he siad, bvar22 Aug 2015 #56
Why isn't Westborough Baptist picketing Ashley Madison? SunSeeker Aug 2015 #28
it's kinda' hard to organize a protest or a picket NJCher Aug 2015 #30
Well, if they are not on the list TNNurse Aug 2015 #40
RW Christians only take a stand against things they believe that they will never do or ... ecdab Aug 2015 #31
Handmaid's Tale, that's the 'utopia' they envision. nt. Mc Mike Aug 2015 #33
Almost correct. They would welcome sex with the babe but get rid of the wife in the sex act. Hoppy Aug 2015 #37
Could be, Hop. Mc Mike Aug 2015 #38
Since Jesus said nothing about abortion and gays, Christians feel like they can make judgment DhhD Aug 2015 #36
Who is Ashley Madison? pangaia Aug 2015 #39
Names of super RW Xians on the list? /nt NCjack Aug 2015 #41
I think this answers the question sarge43 Aug 2015 #43
where is the list of names of USA. gov paying accounts? all the other countries go after their gov p Sunlei Aug 2015 #44
Maybe they are being silent, because their names are on the AM list somewhere? Rex Aug 2015 #45
Because the "Christians" in question are 95% of Ashley Madison's base. Initech Aug 2015 #46
Huckabees of the world object to who people ARE DirkGently Aug 2015 #47
While you are quite correct about Ashley Madison and the Right Wing Christians, colorado_ufo Aug 2015 #48
Hypocracy is high on the list of Republican values. liberal N proud Aug 2015 #51
#Bazinga TeamPooka Aug 2015 #52
Kickity-kick saturnsring Aug 2015 #53
These are the same people who were ready to stone d_legendary1 Aug 2015 #54
Not really we all know the the Republicans are rapist, sex abusers. So many of them are on the rladdi Aug 2015 #55
Thank you, Canadians are showing US saidsimplesimon Aug 2015 #57

Hayduke Bomgarte

(1,965 posts)
4. "Christians" I know are very adept
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 07:05 PM
Aug 2015

At following mostly only the biblcal edicts that suit them in the moment, while expecting everyone else to follow them all.

An example would be the railing and whining they do against same sex relationships, citing Levitcus, and it is ONLY in Levitus, while munching a ham sandwich and wearing blended frabrics that are also prohibited by Levitcus.

 

Huddie94

(25 posts)
32. Where "biblical edicts" conflict with "profit," "profit" wins. Hating Pope Francis
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 07:08 AM
Aug 2015

is becoming their core tenet for practical ideology. That man does not worship profit.

That's what I see as the modern conservative, neo-fascist take on Christianity.

This Ashley Madison scam generated huge profits. Also huge tax cheating worldwide.

20,269,675 paying male customers. They checked for messages and had to pay to get messages. If the average duration of account activity is a year that gives total revenue over the AM site lifetime at (20 million times $19 a month times 12 months) = $5 billion.

That's a good year for Bernie Madoff's old scheme. Galt Gulch Capitalism at its high trumpish best. (Trump made his big money from being connected with NJ's sleazeballs and getting the first gambling license in Atlantic City. Long time partner with S&A Construction, a mob operation.)

1,492 female accounts that ever, even once checked for messages over the lifetime of the AM web site. That's 1,492 of the total of 5,5550,687 "female" tagged accounts. One can assume that some women were browsers only -- that the total for browsers+fakes = (5,550,687 - 1,492) = 5,549,295.

Full article at Gizmodo.

Scam these stupid men for $5,000,000,000. Get away with it. Make pay-offs to Canadian conservative pols to assure protection. How could anything be more Christian? And as to Pope Francis, he don't get no cut.

 

HenryWallace

(332 posts)
49. American Pluralism!
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 10:57 AM
Aug 2015

"Mike disagreed with what Ashley Madison was doing but then added "I could be wrong.""

The god of Capitalism coexists with the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob!

If you are economically successful it must follow that you have been blessed by God!

Is it any wonder that a high percentage of these guys have serious personality disorders!

eppur_se_muova

(36,257 posts)
9. Oh, COME ON ... you know they're just waiting to hear ...
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 07:46 PM
Aug 2015

... if their own names come up. And a lot of them will.

Until that happens, best to lay low and shut up.


(PS: Kicking for one of the most righteous rants ever posted to DU ! : )

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
12. Rightwing Xtians feel they have already been saved and do not seek advice or truth
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 08:18 PM
Aug 2015

RW xtians are not hard-headed.

Effectively, they do not have heads to be hit upon.



It's the way they have structured themselves to function in life.
Literally, an INTENTIONAL, programmed, lack of thought-process.

Best defense there is against hated realities.
Fascists everywhere have depended on it for decades.

Gotta' go with what works.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
13. That's because the majority of fundy Xtians
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 08:23 PM
Aug 2015

don't agree with a word of what Jesus says. Notice how they quote Paul and Deuteronomy and not he who is "the way, the truth, and the light."

My sister was talking about this yesterday: "They honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me"

Also, many of your die-hard fundies have been divorced. But they are forgiven.

I can tell you this, if Jesus ever shows up in Tennessee, the populace will stone him to death for being too dark-skinned --if the cops don't throw him in jail first.

LiberalArkie

(15,708 posts)
15. You just don't understand, Jesus Christ has nothing to do with Christianity. Christianity is about
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 08:39 PM
Aug 2015

the teachings of Moses not Jesus. That is why it is called Christianity. You silly people keep forgetting we live in Bizarro universe.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
16. Religion has always been about
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 08:51 PM
Aug 2015
He was most clear on His biggest pet peeve: excess wealth.

Yet those are three things that today's rightwing Christian doesn't care about.
Massive greed? That's called "prosperity gospel" now.


Condemning other people while ignoring your own Moat...in other words, religion is interpreted as needed for each individual cause.

I know there are good people out there who think they are good because of their faith, but it's not true. They are good people because they want to be good, just like most atheists do.

Oh, and that sin thing? All they have to do is ask for forgiveness, and it's all AOK.

3catwoman3

(23,970 posts)
17. Claiming/believing one has been been forgiven...
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 09:00 PM
Aug 2015

...by god seems like such an easy out with no limit on how many times it can be used.

yourout

(7,527 posts)
29. It's the forgivness debit card.....if it's running a little low you
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 11:22 PM
Aug 2015

crank out a few hail marys and get the balance back up so you can get on with the next great sin.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
35. It's like that old joke: I use to pray for riches and wealth then I realized God doesn't work that
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 07:44 AM
Aug 2015

Way. So now I steal what I want and ask for forgiveness later.

Lorien

(31,935 posts)
50. Ha! That's perfect!
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 12:52 PM
Aug 2015

And all too true of the Talibornagains. Truly some of the most morally bankrupt people on the planet. The proof is in the statistics on just about every socital ill in the Bible belt; divorce, domestic abuse, alcoholism, child abuse, child porn...you name it, and they have more of it!

ToxMarz

(2,166 posts)
19. Because those are *wink *wink just being a guy sins.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 09:03 PM
Aug 2015

Yeah, it's a sin, but you know, we're guys!. So to atone for our sins we will double down on the other sinners (gays, abortionists, non-Christians, ...) with zero tolerance. You know, cause we're just being guys. God gets it, cause, well, he's one of us guys.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
20. They don't care about "sin" -- they care about patriarchy.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 09:09 PM
Aug 2015

Cheating on your wife is no threat to patriarchy. But women having sex without consequence is a threat to patriarchy. So, too, are men loving men and women loving women, because patriarchy requires men owning/controlling women and women being subservient to men.

And that stepfather who impregnated his 10-year-old step daughter? He's the ultimate patriarch. To allow that girl to get an abortion would be an insult to the man's sperm.

But patriarchy aside, men who have sex with children or who are serial rapists should be candidates for castration. They've earned it.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
23. Notice also, that the usual swarm of right-wing trolls
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 09:21 PM
Aug 2015

that usually infest the DailyKos comments do not seem to be weighing in on this one?


 

Huddie94

(25 posts)
34. ALM took 20,269,675 x $19 x active-months-per-male for access to faked
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 07:27 AM
Aug 2015

female accounts. Faked profiles. Faked everything. A very few live, real female users.

There's a full analysis of the data dump at GIZMODO.

That's a huge amount of money. A world class scam. So far they are getting away with it. Also they are getting away with not paying taxes on their loot.

20,269,675 active checked-for-messages male accounts. But only 1,492 active female accounts including test accounts. That's all the "female" accounts that checked for messages even once.

Fewer than 1 "live" female accounts for every 10,000 "live" male accounts.

A sample of male accounts has activity running over one year. If you do the arithmetic for 20 million male accounts over the lifetime of the site, that gets about $5 billion taken in worldwide.

ALM paid taxes on tens of millions, not the full income generated by this activity.

Cheat on taxes ????? That makes you a RW Hero. A Romney. No wonder Huckabee sucks up to the CEO.

No wonder the RW trolls are directed away from the AM story. It's capitalism at its worst.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
26. If any Democratic politician anywhere
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 09:56 PM
Aug 2015

even the local dogcatcher - shows up the website, you know it will be the worst thing in the world.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
42. If I recall, in the months after 9/11
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 09:15 AM
Aug 2015

I think it was Fox News that scoured the entire country looking for news of anybody in the US saying anything negative about America and/or positive about Al Qaeda/Islam/the Middle East outside of Israel... the best they could come up with was an obscure college professor from Colorado, who of course generated nationwide outrage and represented all Democrats and liberals.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
56. Blll Maher got fired, and caused serious outrage when he siad,
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 03:32 PM
Aug 2015
"You know, it took some courage to fly those planes into the towers."

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
28. Why isn't Westborough Baptist picketing Ashley Madison?
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 10:40 PM
Aug 2015

Can they only object to one "sin"? So many sins, so little time, eh?

NJCher

(35,648 posts)
30. it's kinda' hard to organize a protest or a picket
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 11:40 PM
Aug 2015

When your name is on the list and it's, well, only a matter of time...


Cher

ecdab

(930 posts)
31. RW Christians only take a stand against things they believe that they will never do or ...
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 06:37 AM
Aug 2015

have never done. It's all about feeling morally superior by coming together with other like minded simpletons to condemn people not like themselves.

The foundation of RW Christianity is anything but morality. It's about making those who are foolish enough to believe in Invisible Sky Beings feel good about themselves and the choices they have already made in their lives in exchange for cold hard cash.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
36. Since Jesus said nothing about abortion and gays, Christians feel like they can make judgment
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 07:51 AM
Aug 2015

even though judging someone is against Christian principles.

IMHO: The problems of Sodom and Gomorrah were that the city officials were doing nothing about sexual assaults because they were the leaders of the rape culture, themselves. Years of abuse leads to anger and the display of repeated behavior that becomes accepted.

If ever a National Guard was needed, it would have been needed then. Seems like the Christians would join Democrats who want to put a stop to a, Culture of Rape, that the GOP finds acceptable.

So it is very reasonable to say that RW radical fundamentalist, are a part of a culture of rape, now, as they were back then.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
44. where is the list of names of USA. gov paying accounts? all the other countries go after their gov p
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 09:30 AM
Aug 2015

people.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
45. Maybe they are being silent, because their names are on the AM list somewhere?
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 09:30 AM
Aug 2015

Bile Fuckabee, Frothy Mix and Carnival Cruz strike me as the exact right type of hypocrites to have an account with AM!

I bet dollars to donuts at least ONE of those asshole dingbats has an account!

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
47. Huckabees of the world object to who people ARE
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 10:19 AM
Aug 2015

... not what they DO. Over and over again, hatred expressed as religious piety is just cover for plain cultural bigotry.

It's a general conservative principle, and the philosophy behind any kind of identity politics.

"We need more _____ people and less _____ people" is just bad human psychological wiring, but it winds people up emotionally.

If we'd focus more on what people do, instead of making assumptions based on their immutable characteristics, we'd solve a lot of problems at once.

We need more people who think, and fewer people who fear.

colorado_ufo

(5,733 posts)
48. While you are quite correct about Ashley Madison and the Right Wing Christians,
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 10:21 AM
Aug 2015

I think Jesus's main aim may have been more at hypocrites than adulterers, although the Bible clearly speaks against adultery. In other words, Jesus was emphasizing the same point you are. He spoke of hypocrites almost more times than anything else.

 

saturnsring

(1,832 posts)
53. Kickity-kick
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 02:03 PM
Aug 2015

The marriage of two people of the same sex will not affect my marriage but infidelity will

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
54. These are the same people who were ready to stone
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 02:17 PM
Aug 2015

the adulterer until Jesus asked if any of them sinned as well. There's your reason as to why nobody is going after the Ashely Madison crowd. I'm willing to bet most of them were on that list as well.

rladdi

(581 posts)
55. Not really we all know the the Republicans are rapist, sex abusers. So many of them are on the
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 03:00 PM
Aug 2015

list. The very people who profess to GOD, yet have no morals.

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