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Not The Onion!
http://www.psmag.com/nature-and-technology/mo-friends-mo-problems-might-have-to-defriend-joey-with-the-jet-ski-bankruptcy
In short: You could be denied a loan simply because your friends have defaulted on theirs. Its the kind of digital redlining that critics of big data collection have been warning of for years. It could make Facebook a lot of money, and it could make the Web even less safe for poor people. And it could be just the beginning.
The United States has a long and storied history of discriminatory lending. Bank redlining practices denied many people of color the opportunity to apply for mortgages and buy their homes and forced racial segregation in cities across the country that persists to this day. Federal laws passed in the 1970s made these practices illegal and further protected the poor from discriminatory credit reporting and lending practices. But these laws narrowly define lenders and creditors in ways that dont apply so neatly in an era of big data.
Depending on which factors are considered and which arent, predictive modeling based on ones own history and behaviors can be terribly incorrect. When theres more and more data to choose from, that could be good or bad news for consumers, depending on the algorithm.
Boy, am I screwn! All those disability rights activists!
peacebird
(14,195 posts)That makes zero sense.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)It's wrong of course, but that won't stop them from doing it.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)If it works one way then it should also work in the other, no?
Avalux
(35,015 posts)Won't affect me though, I don't have a Facebook account.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)I have a sterling credit score.....how much is it worth to you to be my friend???????
and btw...I am posting this on my Facebook account.
Just posted it on my brand spanking new FB account...and shared it publicly. Feel free to do the same.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)You're right from that perspective. That's why they need to cease viewing you through the lens of humanity in order for you to become a data-point from which they can draw out all sorts of weird and profit ensuring trends.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)which is one reason there are laws about property maintenance.
In fact, your home value can go down if there are too many rental homes on your street.
same way car insurers consider ALL drivers in a household even if they are not related.
The lawsuits ought to be interesting, down the road.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)very solidly financially secure social media links to build Social Media Rating? This is like Insurance companies raising car insurance rates based upon credit score only weirder and even worse than that.
FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)Modern algorithms are quite complex and when combined with large datasets, are more accurate than human judgement based on one or two simple factors like a credit score.
Companies spend millions on these systems because they work.
We may not like it and their are always some individual exceptions, but they do work.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Being in IT and all.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)I'm the pilot fish to the IT shark
annabanana
(52,791 posts)They don't have MY real name . .
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Drag queens and others were up in arms. At least one person was thrown off for using his real Native American name!
Erose999
(5,624 posts)s got booted for his stage name.
Snobblevitch
(1,958 posts)snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)uses an alias but uses their own zip code, FB can't catch them.
Erose999
(5,624 posts)gender, and the city where I live.
I'll be damned if I give that bastard Zuckerberg my address or phone number so he can whore it out to telemarketers, junk mail, etc.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)It must be a tedious job!
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)Inside joke.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)No, I am not kidding. They have redlined based on minority neighborhoods, so I don't believe this is a stretch at all.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)btw, i would be outraged if i didnt have suh a huge headache. i hate all this stuff. wary of micro 10 update. i know nothing, about nothing. it makes it hard
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)Remember kids, liking or speaking with poor people will be held against you.
Bad credit? Try liking more bankers and CEOs!
Jesus.
Facility Inspector
(615 posts)Just say no
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)That would also allow them to use relatives scores against them as well if you have relatives friended on Facebook.
I see the real potential for a lawsuit the first time someone can definitively tie the denial of a loan to information that was used about Facebook friends. Granted that won't be easy because we all know they are going to try to hide it, but someone is going to have to do the research and that person will have to be a person who is denied credit.
hatrack
(59,574 posts)In case anyone was wondering . . .
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,311 posts)LWolf
(46,179 posts)I don't use my real name, then.