Tue Aug 25, 2015, 12:42 PM

The Ideologically Pure Ruin US Politics

In my blog posts I have often assailed the radical right which forms the base of the Republican Party, and rightly so in my humble opinion. Over the last 40 years the Republican Partly and it’s leaders have moved drastically to the right and in the process have become far less willing to negotiate on the issues. An article on the NPR website Political Scientist: Republicans Most Conservative They’ve Been In 100 Years, political Science experts who have studied such shifts in congress from 1879 to the present say they have the data to back up the statement made in the article’s title. However, the article also points out that the Republicans in Congress are not the sole reason for gridlock. During that same time period Democrats in Congress have moved towards the left. Though they have not moved near as far ideologically as the Republicans, “…Democrats also have their take-no-prisoner liberals who aren’t prone to compromise on their core issues, either.”

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The Ideologically Pure Ruin US Politics (Original post)	CajunBlazer	Aug 2015	OP
Very inciteful.	GitRDun	Aug 2015	#1
Insightful	KamaAina	Aug 2015	#96
lol, spelling was never my strong suit. n/t	GitRDun	Aug 2015	#98
What I am getting out of this is that we lefties are just as bad as the Tea Party,	djean111	Aug 2015	#2
No, not just as bad as the Tea Party....	CajunBlazer	Aug 2015	#6
Which Dem politicians are unwilling to give an inch? And, on what issues?	djean111	Aug 2015	#124
That was my take, too	beltanefauve	Aug 2015	#123
I'd say the Democratic Party suffers more from being idealogically barren	Maedhros	Aug 2015	#3
^+1000 nt	HFRN	Aug 2015	#55
And there it is.^^^	Eleanors38	Aug 2015	#68
What false equivalency?	Maedhros	Aug 2015	#73
The false equivalency of they moved Right, we moved Left, and therein is the lock up.	Eleanors38	Aug 2015	#77
Not at all my point.	Maedhros	Aug 2015	#79
Compromise comes from a position of strength. Democrats aren't in that position.	Eleanors38	Aug 2015	#92
You do not seem to have comprehended the point of my posts.	Maedhros	Aug 2015	#97
You slayed it. Well said! Nt.	Juicy_Bellows	Aug 2015	#120
You're right, ane the America voting public is getting tired of their BS and....	CajunBlazer	Aug 2015	#76
+1 n/t	lumberjack_jeff	Aug 2015	#71
Spot on. Nice job.	Ed Suspicious	Aug 2015	#106
The Left's idealists have long been pilloried by the Party establishment	Maedhros	Aug 2015	#107
A load of nonsense.	Erich Bloodaxe BSN	Aug 2015	#4
And just what should Democrats "compromise" with	CharlotteVale	Aug 2015	#5
Can we assume that....	CajunBlazer	Aug 2015	#7
I would never compromise on ANY of those things, nor would I	CharlotteVale	Aug 2015	#8
You were asked a question which you should answer or self delete your OP. Responding to a question	Bluenorthwest	Aug 2015	#10
Okay, I was trying to be kind, but let me put it like this.....	CajunBlazer	Aug 2015	#12
So you still refuse to answer MY question. So what "kind of person" does that	CharlotteVale	Aug 2015	#14
No doubt, many individuals believe that civil rights	LanternWaste	Aug 2015	#17
It's non responsive and insulting, so not it does not suffice at all.	Bluenorthwest	Aug 2015	#23
Thank you.	CharlotteVale	Aug 2015	#15
You asked the key question and made the poor OP upset.	Bluenorthwest	Aug 2015	#24
You can assume this	Trajan	Aug 2015	#54
I'd like to see you answer the damn question	Oilwellian	Aug 2015	#99
Only by compromising principles and selling-out can we make America great!	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2015	#9
Only by sticking to our ideals with consummate stubbornness....	CajunBlazer	Aug 2015	#11
"Politics is the art of the possible"	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2015	#19
You don't have to necociate away your core beliefs to effective in Congress	CajunBlazer	Aug 2015	#56
What's hypocritical is we're the ones you won't compromise and negotiate with. You have set us	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2015	#61
I never said that YOU won't compomise, but if the shoe fits, by all means wear it (n/t)	CajunBlazer	Aug 2015	#63
Gladly. Show us this vaunted willingness to compromise you extol. Show us how you will	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2015	#64
Okay, let's start with you supplying a list of important issues confronting the Congress...	CajunBlazer	Aug 2015	#66
Except I'm not the one extolling compromise. You are. You're here telling us how bad we are	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2015	#69
Tired of aqnswering individuals - see may last post at the bottom.	CajunBlazer	Aug 2015	#82
I had a former boss who said "No business is better than bad business"	lumberjack_jeff	Aug 2015	#72
Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice. Thomas Paine	Tierra_y_Libertad	Aug 2015	#13
“Let us never negotiate out of fear. But let us never fear to negotiate. John F. Kennedy	CajunBlazer	Aug 2015	#16
Negotiation is all very nice, but what to do when the vote is called for?	Tierra_y_Libertad	Aug 2015	#18
And yet we continue with the quotes	CajunBlazer	Aug 2015	#46
So? No response?	Tierra_y_Libertad	Aug 2015	#47
Respectfully, the Democratic Party fears the Far Right, and has for some time...	Eleanors38	Aug 2015	#75
The replies thus far prove my point	CajunBlazer	Aug 2015	#20
If only there were some sort of third way.	Orsino	Aug 2015	#21
What a great idea!	sibelian	Aug 2015	#103
Vocal moderates offer a good starting point	Capt. Obvious	Aug 2015	#22
Most of the OP's responses are self serving back patting	Capt. Obvious	Aug 2015	#30
You don't start negotiations from a position of weakness	CajunBlazer	Aug 2015	#50
"Vocal moderates"? What's "vocal" about YOU? You won't even say what	CharlotteVale	Aug 2015	#25
A partial list only	CajunBlazer	Aug 2015	#29
Since when do Republicans want to make "constructive" changes to the ACA? And when	CharlotteVale	Aug 2015	#32
How does one compromise on raising the min wage with someone who thinks there shouldn't be one? nt	Electric Monk	Aug 2015	#48
I'm guessing you lower it.	Erich Bloodaxe BSN	Aug 2015	#84
The ACA was a compromise	muriel_volestrangler	Aug 2015	#88
The replies just demonstrated that you are all bluster and no substance.	Bluenorthwest	Aug 2015	#26
Noooo, they contradict your point. But that is sort of what you wanted, wasn't it?	sibelian	Aug 2015	#102
Democrats in Congress have moved towards the left. Bullshit on its' face. Ignore is my friend	Vincardog	Aug 2015	#27
Let's try to keep the conversation respectable - besides your statement is not true	CajunBlazer	Aug 2015	#37
Most of the Arguments made so far are identical to those made by arch conservatives	CajunBlazer	Aug 2015	#28
You have no arguments. Just insults. The only reason you came here was to	CharlotteVale	Aug 2015	#33
You do understand that every compromise moves the center a little more to the right	tularetom	Aug 2015	#35
Bill Clinton was the most astute politican of his generation	CajunBlazer	Aug 2015	#38
Astute = run as a Democrat, govern like a republican	tularetom	Aug 2015	#44
Then perhaps you an explain why Bill Clinton's current approval rating is 67% (n/t)	CajunBlazer	Aug 2015	#53
No I can't, the man is a master bullshitter	tularetom	Aug 2015	#65
He's not in political office.	Erich Bloodaxe BSN	Aug 2015	#86
You re able to maintain the illusion of intransigence easily...	sibelian	Aug 2015	#104
No thank you.	H2O Man	Aug 2015	#31
Doing nothing is not a viable option.	CajunBlazer	Aug 2015	#39
Murdering people is bad.	H2O Man	Aug 2015	#49
Doing nothing? I don't think you understand who you replied to with that	tkmorris	Aug 2015	#52
Thank you, tkmorris!	H2O Man	Aug 2015	#70
Well, yes, actually doing nothing very often IS a viable option...	sibelian	Aug 2015	#105
More "both sides do it" nonsense. It's not about purity, it's about principle. n/t	lumberjack_jeff	Aug 2015	#34
Yep, and most of the Tea Partiers would agree with you (n/t)	CajunBlazer	Aug 2015	#41
Unlike me, they'd be wrong.	lumberjack_jeff	Aug 2015	#62
That's not ironic. Do you understand that?	sibelian	Aug 2015	#108
Everyone has issues they won't compromise on.	Xithras	Aug 2015	#36
I agree with you	CajunBlazer	Aug 2015	#43
Yes, they do vary	Xithras	Aug 2015	#51
What exactly do you do...	TDale313	Aug 2015	#40
I can't disagree that the Republicans are responsible for most of the gridlock in Washington	CajunBlazer	Aug 2015	#45
Complete, total and unmitigated bullshit	Cosmocat	Aug 2015	#42
Orwell's 'Animal Farm' dealth with this kind of arguement	HFRN	Aug 2015	#57
Doesn't sound like the pigs were willing to negociate.....	CajunBlazer	Aug 2015	#59
'However, I am still waiting for you to make your point.'	HFRN	Aug 2015	#60
If it isn't too much trouble, please try to explain it to someone like me who isn't very bright....	CajunBlazer	Aug 2015	#67
Perhaps HFRN is not	H2O Man	Aug 2015	#80
How humble you are.	sibelian	Aug 2015	#100
So you don't know either right?	CajunBlazer	Aug 2015	#109
Hnk!	sibelian	Aug 2015	#112
Actually.....	CajunBlazer	Aug 2015	#113
Ooooooh, so you DID know!	sibelian	Aug 2015	#114
Maybe you have never studied Animal Farm very carefully	CajunBlazer	Aug 2015	#118
Fresh off the third turnbuckle with an info elbow to the dome!	Juicy_Bellows	Aug 2015	#121
"Skipping from side to side and whisking his tail" -	Syzygy321	Aug 2015	#122
Ideological puritanism has been an issue on the left...	DonViejo	Aug 2015	#58
The problem, far from being "purity", is corruption. nt	bemildred	Aug 2015	#74
the Dems moved left?	KT2000	Aug 2015	#78
Whoa, let's get something staright	CajunBlazer	Aug 2015	#81
Oh, good grief.	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2015	#85
You think much too highly of yourself and much too less of DU membership.	MerryBlooms	Aug 2015	#111
Deadlock provides it's own solution	One_Life_To_Give	Aug 2015	#83
The New Deal used to be just common sense	eridani	Aug 2015	#87
The Left has compromised repeatedly on Economic Justice.	MicaelS	Aug 2015	#89
Look around folks, pay attention!	CajunBlazer	Aug 2015	#90
Wrong. Greedy, corrupt, lying assholes, and their minions, ruin US poilitics. nt	Zorra	Aug 2015	#91
^ ^ ^ THREAD WIN! ^ ^ ^	Octafish	Aug 2015	#93
OMG. I just posted similar response!	2banon	Aug 2015	#95
lol! Must be one of those hundredth monkey things.	Zorra	Aug 2015	#117
My take: plain old common sense, apparently scarce around these digs... :)	2banon	Aug 2015	#126
Totally misses the mark, It's not the so called "purity" anything. It's the Corruption & Dishonesty	2banon	Aug 2015	#94
Newsflash: Radical Centrism has been the prevailing ideology since Triangulation	leveymg	Aug 2015	#101
Seems very relevant to DU at this time.	Gloria	Aug 2015	#110
I understand exactly where you are coing from	CajunBlazer	Aug 2015	#116
Well, you are not alone	Gloria	Aug 2015	#119
On the left the poor are always "purity trolls"	daredtowork	Aug 2015	#115
I lulz'ed	KG	Aug 2015	#125

Response to CajunBlazer (Original post)

Tue Aug 25, 2015, 12:49 PM

GitRDun (1,846 posts)

1. Very inciteful.

Thanks for posting!

The Ideologically Pure Ruin US Politics

1. Very inciteful.

96. Insightful

98. lol, spelling was never my strong suit. n/t

2. What I am getting out of this is that we lefties are just as bad as the Tea Party,

6. No, not just as bad as the Tea Party....

124. Which Dem politicians are unwilling to give an inch? And, on what issues?

123. That was my take, too

3. I'd say the Democratic Party suffers more from being idealogically barren

55. ^+1000 nt

68. And there it is.^^^

73. What false equivalency?

77. The false equivalency of they moved Right, we moved Left, and therein is the lock up.

79. Not at all my point.

92. Compromise comes from a position of strength. Democrats aren't in that position.

97. You do not seem to have comprehended the point of my posts.

120. You slayed it. Well said! Nt.

76. You're right, ane the America voting public is getting tired of their BS and....

71. +1 n/t

106. Spot on. Nice job.

107. The Left's idealists have long been pilloried by the Party establishment

4. A load of nonsense.

5. And just what should Democrats "compromise" with

7. Can we assume that....

8. I would never compromise on ANY of those things, nor would I

10. You were asked a question which you should answer or self delete your OP. Responding to a question

12. Okay, I was trying to be kind, but let me put it like this.....

14. So you still refuse to answer MY question. So what "kind of person" does that

17. No doubt, many individuals believe that civil rights

23. It's non responsive and insulting, so not it does not suffice at all.

15. Thank you.

24. You asked the key question and made the poor OP upset.

54. You can assume this

99. I'd like to see you answer the damn question

9. Only by compromising principles and selling-out can we make America great!

11. Only by sticking to our ideals with consummate stubbornness....

19. "Politics is the art of the possible"

56. You don't have to necociate away your core beliefs to effective in Congress

61. What's hypocritical is we're the ones you won't compromise and negotiate with. You have set us

63. I never said that YOU won't compomise, but if the shoe fits, by all means wear it (n/t)

64. Gladly. Show us this vaunted willingness to compromise you extol. Show us how you will

66. Okay, let's start with you supplying a list of important issues confronting the Congress...

69. Except I'm not the one extolling compromise. You are. You're here telling us how bad we are

82. Tired of aqnswering individuals - see may last post at the bottom.

72. I had a former boss who said "No business is better than bad business"

13. Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice. Thomas Paine

16. “Let us never negotiate out of fear. But let us never fear to negotiate. John F. Kennedy

18. Negotiation is all very nice, but what to do when the vote is called for?

46. And yet we continue with the quotes

47. So? No response?

75. Respectfully, the Democratic Party fears the Far Right, and has for some time...

20. The replies thus far prove my point

21. If only there were some sort of third way.

103. What a great idea!

22. Vocal moderates offer a good starting point

30. Most of the OP's responses are self serving back patting

50. You don't start negotiations from a position of weakness

25. "Vocal moderates"? What's "vocal" about YOU? You won't even say what

29. A partial list only

32. Since when do Republicans want to make "constructive" changes to the ACA? And when

48. How does one compromise on raising the min wage with someone who thinks there shouldn't be one? nt

84. I'm guessing you lower it.

88. The ACA *was* a compromise

26. The replies just demonstrated that you are all bluster and no substance.

102. Noooo, they *contradict* your point. But that is sort of what you wanted, wasn't it?

27. Democrats in Congress have moved towards the left. Bullshit on its' face. Ignore is my friend

37. Let's try to keep the conversation respectable - besides your statement is not true

28. Most of the Arguments made so far are identical to those made by arch conservatives

33. You have no arguments. Just insults. The only reason you came here was to

35. You do understand that every compromise moves the center a little more to the right

38. Bill Clinton was the most astute politican of his generation

44. Astute = run as a Democrat, govern like a republican

53. Then perhaps you an explain why Bill Clinton's current approval rating is 67% (n/t)

65. No I can't, the man is a master bullshitter

86. He's not in political office.

104. You re able to maintain the illusion of intransigence easily...

31. No thank you.

39. Doing nothing is not a viable option.

49. Murdering people is bad.

52. Doing nothing? I don't think you understand who you replied to with that

88. The ACA was a compromise

102. Noooo, they contradict your point. But that is sort of what you wanted, wasn't it?