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Fri Aug 14, 2015, 07:14 AM

Jimmy Carter turned out to be a better ex-president than president, imo

and a courageous person.

for example:

"A Brutally Frank Jimmy Carter Calls Out Israel on Permanent Apartheid"

“The Netanyahu government decided early on to adopt a one-state solution … but without giving them [the Palestinians] equal rights.” In this sentence, he accused Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of having pursued, upon his election in 2009, a deliberate policy of relentlessly annexing and colonizing the Palestinian West Bank, ensuring that it will end up as part of Israel. At the same time, he said, Netanyahu conspired to ensure that the 4.2 million Palestinians under Israeli occupation remain stateless and without rights.

It seems fairly clear to any dispassionate observer of Netanyahu’s government that these steps are precisely the ones it has taken, and Carter is simply stating the obvious. But in the world of international diplomacy, it is customary to put some of the blame for this state of affairs on the Palestinians. Pro-Israeli critics run interference for Tel Aviv, insisting that the PLO, headed by Mahmoud Abbas, has declined perfectly reasonable negotiating offers and that Israel would be very happy to have someone take Palestine off its hands, if only it could receive security in return. Carter violated these conventions of “on the one hand” political discourse by baldly and correctly blaming the occupying authority for its illegal actions, rather than the helpless, occupied population.

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/a_brutally_frank_jimmy_carter_calls_out_israel_on_permanent_apartheid_20150

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Reply Jimmy Carter turned out to be a better ex-president than president, imo (Original post)
ellenrr Aug 2015 OP
LiberalArkie Aug 2015 #1
FLPanhandle Aug 2015 #2
Ms. Yertle Aug 2015 #4
Sherman A1 Aug 2015 #3
1939 Aug 2015 #5
WI_DEM Aug 2015 #6
catnhatnh Aug 2015 #7

Response to ellenrr (Original post)

Fri Aug 14, 2015, 07:44 AM

1. What would have happened if the oil embargo had happened during Reagan? Or the hostages?

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Response to ellenrr (Original post)

Fri Aug 14, 2015, 07:51 AM

2. He did a great job as President too but only had 4 years

Granted his handling of the Cuban Mariel boatlift and Iran hostages wasn't great, but he had good intentions.

Imagine if his efforts on alternative energy had continued from 1980. Instead of starting now, we might be 30 years further along.

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Response to FLPanhandle (Reply #2)

Fri Aug 14, 2015, 08:24 AM

4. He lost any chance of being re-elected

with his response to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. I remember watching his televised message, in which he announced the boycott of the 1980 Olympics and the resumption of draft registration, and thinking, "Good-bye, President Carter."

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Fri Aug 14, 2015, 07:53 AM

3. I think he was both

A fine President and a fine ex-President and continues to be so in that role. I do believe he was vastly under appreciated as President, but it wasn't that far past the Nixon era so faith in government seemed pretty low to me.

Got to meet him once at a book signing at his library for a few seconds and I can tell you this man is the fastest person I have ever seen signing books.

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Response to ellenrr (Original post)

Fri Aug 14, 2015, 08:27 AM

5. I would rate the top three

John Quincy Adams
Herbert Hoover
Jimmy Carter

As the top three men who had greater post-presidencies than presidencies.

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Response to ellenrr (Original post)

Fri Aug 14, 2015, 10:21 AM

6. He had many achievements as president

that the media downplays but they were numerous in both foreign and domestic affairs. His problem was that he didn't know how to play nice with the Washington insiders.

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Response to ellenrr (Original post)

Fri Aug 14, 2015, 10:33 AM

7. He was the first example

of what republicans decided to do to every democrat elected president-heap scorn and insinuate weakness.Obstruct and defame. It is now their standard MO and it started with a president who was merely damn good-if they had shown the slightest hint of bipartisanship or caring for their country Carter could have been great. They are, every one-Bastards.

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