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Thu Aug 13, 2015, 03:22 PM

Yellowstone grizzly euthanized, cubs sent to facility

http://www.ktvq.com/story/29781489/park-officials-death-of-billings-man-confirmed-yellowstone-grizzly-euthanized

Park officials: Death of Billings man confirmed, Yellowstone grizzly euthanized
By YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK NEWS SERVICE
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Results from genetic (DNA) analysis of bear hair samples collected next to Crosby’s body confirmed the adult female grizzly bear that was captured at the scene on the night the body was discovered was the bear involved in the fatal attack.

Additional support beyond the DNA evidence that this female was the bear involved in the attack include: The bear and cubs were at the attack site when Crosby’s body was found by park rangers; bear tracks of a female with cubs were found at Crosby’s body; this bear was captured at the fatality site within 24 hours of the body being found; and canine puncture wounds inflicted on the victim are consistent with the bite size of the female captured at the site.
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An important fact in the decision to euthanize the bear was that a significant portion of the body was consumed and cached with the intent to return for further feeding. Normal defensive attacks by female bears defending their young do not involve consumption of the victim’s body.

Arrangements have been made to transfer the bear’s two cubs to a facility accredited by the Association of Zoos and Aquariums (AZA). The AZA sets strict standards for facilities with regard to animal handling and care. Details of this placement are still being finalized. The facility is expected to make an announcement on Friday.

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Reply Yellowstone grizzly euthanized, cubs sent to facility (Original post)
uppityperson Aug 2015 OP
KamaAina Aug 2015 #1
uppityperson Aug 2015 #4
KamaAina Aug 2015 #13
virgogal Aug 2015 #2
uppityperson Aug 2015 #5
markpkessinger Aug 2015 #12
uppityperson Aug 2015 #22
Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2015 #41
markpkessinger Aug 2015 #42
Beaverhausen Aug 2015 #3
uppityperson Aug 2015 #6
TexasMommaWithAHat Aug 2015 #15
Beaverhausen Aug 2015 #25
TexasMommaWithAHat Aug 2015 #33
Beaverhausen Aug 2015 #37
TexasMommaWithAHat Aug 2015 #38
GGJohn Aug 2015 #43
HassleCat Aug 2015 #7
City Lights Aug 2015 #10
Hortensis Aug 2015 #11
markpkessinger Aug 2015 #20
Logical Aug 2015 #21
HassleCat Aug 2015 #26
LanternWaste Aug 2015 #29
Logical Aug 2015 #35
Hortensis Aug 2015 #32
Logical Aug 2015 #36
TransitJohn Aug 2015 #47
Politicalboi Aug 2015 #8
uppityperson Aug 2015 #9
Hortensis Aug 2015 #18
IphengeniaBlumgarten Aug 2015 #14
tabasco Aug 2015 #16
Hortensis Aug 2015 #19
Vinca Aug 2015 #17
uppityperson Aug 2015 #23
Vinca Aug 2015 #28
uppityperson Aug 2015 #39
CatWoman Aug 2015 #45
Vinca Aug 2015 #46
hamsterjill Aug 2015 #24
alarimer Aug 2015 #48
DCBob Aug 2015 #27
leftyladyfrommo Aug 2015 #30
tblue37 Aug 2015 #31
lonestarnot Aug 2015 #34
sorefeet Aug 2015 #40
AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #44
LisaL Aug 2015 #49

Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 03:24 PM

1. So the lions and rhinos can drink out of them?

 

I assume you meant "cubs sent to zoo".

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 03:29 PM

4. picky picky picky. Darn autocorrect

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #4)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 03:44 PM

13. Would autocorrect saddle us with the Chicago Cups?

 

Of course, given the number of bars around Wrigley, that would actually work.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 03:25 PM

2. I didn't know that cosumption of the

 

body would be the deciding factor here.

I learn something every day.

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Response to virgogal (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 03:30 PM

5. There is a big difference between defending your cubs and acting on eating a person.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #5)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 03:44 PM

12. Grizzlies are top predators . . .

. . . and, like all bears, they are opportunists when it come to food. The notion that a mama grizzly, having defended (in her eyes) her cubs, would then pass up a potential food source for her and her cubs is simply ludicrous!

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Response to markpkessinger (Reply #12)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 04:07 PM

22. A mama bear charged me, then ran off. I didn't get eaten.

AK bush, with an infant strapped to me. I had my pepper spray out when she veered away so didn't have to use it. I was very glad she ran off.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #22)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 07:24 PM

41. Yikes.

... bring me my brown trousers....

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #22)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 08:25 PM

42. I'm glad you weren't eaten, too!

Thankfully, you were prepared with bear spray. I have since read a little more about this incident. Seems the guy was hiking alone, was off trail, and was carrying no bear spray nor wearing any 'bear bells.' In other words, he did everything park rangers tel people NOT to do. He was courting disaster and, unfortunately for him and for the bear, he found it.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 03:27 PM

3. They should send the cubs to the Appalachian Bear Rescue

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Response to Beaverhausen (Reply #3)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 03:32 PM

6. I was wrong, they sent to a "facility", accredited. I'm not sure where, looks like they'll

release that info later. I hope it was somewhere decent.

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Response to Beaverhausen (Reply #3)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 03:45 PM

15. The cubs have already eaten human flesh if mom has.

I think I read earlier that they would not release the cubs if that had happened. It's a learning experience that we definitely didn't want them to have.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Reply #15)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 04:40 PM

25. Who's this "we"?

Bears are carnivores. They eat flesh. My god, why kill them for doing what they do instinctively?

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Response to Beaverhausen (Reply #25)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 06:02 PM

33. "We" as in "the public"

Most bears will avoid humans, but any bear that has learned to eat human flesh, may actively seek out humans. Bears like that don't belong in a park where millions of people visit.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Reply #33)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 06:41 PM

37. Well, that bear lives in the park. The humans are just visiting

It's very sad what happened to that hiker but I still don't think the cubs should be destroyed, let alone the mother.

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Response to Beaverhausen (Reply #37)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 06:42 PM

38. I don't think the cubs are going to be destroyed

nt

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Response to Beaverhausen (Reply #37)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 08:33 PM

43. The cubs aren't being destroyed,

they've been sent to an accredited facility.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 03:34 PM

7. I still don't get it

 

Bears just hang out and do what bears do. That happens to include eating a human from time to time. So what? Grizzly bears are not so numerous you can't avoid them. If you are that worried about being eaten by a bear, go to Disney World or something. If someone gets trampled by a herd of bison, are we going to kill the whole herd? The next time someone gets killed in an avalanche, are we going to melt all the snow on the mountain? Drain the lake when somebody drowns? How far do we go to keep absolutely everyone absolutely safe? People who do things outdoors understand there are "objective dangers" involved in hiking, climbing, kayaking, cycling, etc. There are certain thing one cannot do without being exposed to some risk.

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Response to HassleCat (Reply #7)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 03:37 PM

10. I don't get it either.

It's not like the bear was wandering around a neighborhood. She was in Yellowstone. If she can't be a bear there, she can't be a bear anywhere.

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Response to HassleCat (Reply #7)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 03:42 PM

11. It is that that this one bear has likely developed a new taste for hiker meat. Easy pickings too.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #11)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 03:57 PM

20. Grizzlies are opportunistic predators , , ,

, , , and from the bear's point of view, meat is meat.

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Response to HassleCat (Reply #7)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 04:03 PM

21. Your comparisons are silly.....

 

If after somebody drowned the lake on purpose drowned more people then we would prevent people from using lake or drain it .

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Response to Logical (Reply #21)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 04:46 PM

26. Before you conclude that

 

I worked for the US Forest Service and we had a very popular hiking trail leading to the top of a big waterfall. At least once a year, we got a letter demanding we install handrails on the trail. When someone committed suicide by jumping from the top of the falls, there were demands to install suicide prevention fencing at the top.

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Response to HassleCat (Reply #26)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 05:32 PM

29. Often, that which advertises itself as logical is anything but.

Often, that which advertises itself as logical is anything but.

You are of course, correct, let bears be bears... and if someone is concerned with bear-ish behavior, simply avoid the last, few remaining sanctuaries we've reserved for them.

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #29)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 06:16 PM

35. You are usual are wrong. But i think you know that. You just like posting. Nt

 

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Response to HassleCat (Reply #26)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 06:00 PM

32. Funny, but how many demands? A great wave resulting in suicide fencing at all falls, perhaps?

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Response to HassleCat (Reply #26)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 06:18 PM

36. People kill themselves. The trail does not kill them. The bears....

 

Kill people. Once they do and eat them they are likley to do it again.

Maybe a human life to you equals a bears. If so then our discussion is moot.

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Response to HassleCat (Reply #7)

Fri Aug 14, 2015, 07:42 AM

47. Yellowstone kind of is Disney World

that's why the bear is being euthanized.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 03:35 PM

8. Killing a poor bear for what she was supposed to do

 

Where do they come up with this shit about the bear being more dangerous to humans since it ate part of it. Bears eat raw meat. Grizzly bears are ALWAYS dangerous to humans. Instead of killing her, why didn't they take her and her babies to another location father away from humans. Animals doing what they're supposed to be doing, and stupid humans interfering and getting them killed.

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Response to Politicalboi (Reply #8)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 03:37 PM

9. Research has shown relocating bears doesn't work. They go back home, eating what they

are used to along the way. I wish relocating worked, but research has shown it doesn't.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #9)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 03:47 PM

18. Right, and let's not forget that nature tends to cull overly aggressive animals.

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Response to Politicalboi (Reply #8)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 03:44 PM

14. Bear has learned that humans are edible and tasty. Likely to look for this food source again. nt

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Response to IphengeniaBlumgarten (Reply #14)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 03:46 PM

16. Humans have always been a food source for bears.

 

Preying on one human does not make a bear any more dangerous than it was before.

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Response to tabasco (Reply #16)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 03:57 PM

19. Actually, it really, really does. Check with the experts. The Park Service employs lots of them.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 03:47 PM

17. This is ridiculous.

If you don't want to be eaten by a bear, stay out of the bear's home. The bear shouldn't die because a hiker was in its habitat.

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Response to Vinca (Reply #17)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 04:13 PM

23. The bear is dying because she ate and cached the hiker. Not because a hiker was in her

habitat.

It is a sad situation for all beings concerned.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #23)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 05:24 PM

28. This took place in the forest, correct?

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Response to Vinca (Reply #28)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 07:00 PM

39. Yes, but the bear didn't "die because a hiker was in its habitat" but because she ate and stored

the remains to finish eating later. She wasn't killed simply because "a hiker was in its habitat."

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #39)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 10:28 PM

45. I just can't understand why people can't comprehend this

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #39)

Fri Aug 14, 2015, 07:26 AM

46. She was killing because she was hungry.

If she'd wandered into the suburbs and killed someone making barbeque in the backyard, it would be one thing, but she was in the woods. Where bears live. She was hunting and this guy didn't even have bear repellant with him. Sheesh! In addition, she had cubs. Is there anything more dangerous than a mama grizzly with cubs? I don't think so. People in this country have the mindset that everything harmful must be killed. Which reminds me, he was allowed to carry a firearm into the national park so he might have defended himself when attacked. But he didn't. If I went scuba diving with great whites outside a cage, I'd expect to get eaten. Why is hiking alone in a national park filled with grizzly bears and mountain lions any different?

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 04:29 PM

24. While I do realize that human beings must be protected - - -

Why is it that I always root for the animal (in this case, the bear)?

I guess it's because I've seen too many perfectly sweet dogs who have been teased and tortured to the point where they've ultimately bitten someone and have been ordered to be put down.

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #24)

Fri Aug 14, 2015, 09:09 AM

48. I root for the animals because people suck, generally.

Too many people are awful to animals.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 05:17 PM

27. As a hiker I agree with this.

That bear would likely go after a hiker again.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 05:32 PM

30. I think it's kind of like with tigers.

Once they realize how easy it is to kill people they just do it again. It's just too dangerous in a park where there are thousands of hikers each year.

Most bears have learned to stay away from humans. They run from human activity.

Aren't hikers supposed to wear bells and make lots of noise when they are in bear country? This hiker was so irresponsible. Now he's dead and so is the bear.

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Response to leftyladyfrommo (Reply #30)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 05:40 PM

31. Joke relevant to your question:


The National Park Rangers are advising hikers in Glacier National Park and other Rocky Mountain parks to be alert for bears and take extra precautions to avoid an encounter.

They advise park visitors to wear little bells on their clothes so they make noise when hiking. The bell noise allows bears to hear them coming from a distance and not be startled by a hiker accidentally sneaking up on them. This might cause a bear to charge.

Visitors should also carry a pepper spray can just in case a bear is encountered. Spraying the pepper into the air will irritate the bear's sensitive nose and it will run away.

It is also a good idea to keep an eye out for fresh bear scat so you have an idea if bears are in the area. People should be able to recognize the difference between black bear and grizzly bear scat. Black bear droppings are smaller and often contain berries, leaves, and possibly bits of fur. Grizzly bear droppings tend to contain small bells and smell of pepper.

http://www.boyscouttrail.com/content/joke/watch_for_bears-606.asp

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 06:14 PM

34. This report just pisses me off even more.

 

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 07:21 PM

40. Well, guess what

the man was 65 year old EXPERIENCED hiker. He has ZERO bear spray or protection of any kind. He should have known you don't go in grizzly country unprepared. Maybe he decided how to go out on his own terms.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2015, 08:51 PM

44. Why do we expect bears not to be bears?

 

We are encroaching on their home and habitat.

So sorry to hear the disposition. Yet again the bear bears - hey - the brunt of human arrogant domination.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Fri Aug 14, 2015, 09:14 AM

49. She ate one human, so she now knew humans could be a source of food.

So she was going to be a danger to other humans in the park. Kind of like man eating tigers who are also killed.

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