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UTUSN

(70,683 posts)
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:50 PM Aug 2015

It's not just *any* adviser (to TRUMP), it's Roger J. STONE one of the filthiest tricksters ever

He brags about some of his tricks, denies others (like the Dan RATHER set-up), and probably did more never to talk about. The big yuk was when The National Enquirer busted him as a Swinger with his Cuban wife Nikki, smack in the rollout of Bob DOLE's "family values" campaign. Too bad he and TRUMP are flaming themselves out. I would want them helping the Repukes implode to the bitter end.



& a hat tip to DUer Historic_NY for these more recent links:

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/06/02/the-dirty-trickster

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/the-sex-scandal-that-put-bush-in-the-white-house-6407173

http://www.salon.com/2015/01/28/roger_stone_vs_the_world_inside_the_conspiracy_filled_mind_of_legendary_gop_trickster/

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It's not just *any* adviser (to TRUMP), it's Roger J. STONE one of the filthiest tricksters ever (Original Post) UTUSN Aug 2015 OP
I was wondering if it was that Roger Stone. notadmblnd Aug 2015 #1
slime bucket spanone Aug 2015 #2
More rocktivity Aug 2015 #3
Which aide did Trump fire today??? n/t malaise Aug 2015 #4
Stone did the Brooks Brothers Riot. $Also financed Sharpton's run in 2004. nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #5
From the first link: UTUSN Aug 2015 #6
From the second link: UTUSN Aug 2015 #9
From the third link: UTUSN Aug 2015 #10
Wasn't there a name for people like him in the '70's? Boomerproud Aug 2015 #7
Yip, but I thought the word was his using it about the targets he ratf***ed with. n/t UTUSN Aug 2015 #8
The same guy from Black Manafort and Stone: Mc Mike Aug 2015 #11
Now I wonder whose campaign Roger Stone will slither into next. tanyev Aug 2015 #12
Guy sports a Nixon tattoo. Octafish Aug 2015 #13
Kicking all my posts for those who find me insufficiently Dem UTUSN Aug 2015 #14
Stone working for Trump makes me wonder if establishment isn't behind Trump yurbud Apr 2016 #15

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
1. I was wondering if it was that Roger Stone.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:52 PM
Aug 2015

That explains why Trump has been dis-invited to the Florida event and Megan Kelly being invited in his stead.

UTUSN

(70,683 posts)
6. From the first link:
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 10:36 PM
Aug 2015

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http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/06/02/the-dirty-trickster
June 2, 2008 Issue

[font size=5]The Dirty Trickster
[/font]
Campaign tips from the man who has done it all.
By Jeffrey Toobin

.... Stone moved to Washington to attend George Washington University, but he became so engrossed in Republican politics that he never graduated. He was just nineteen when he played a bit part in the Watergate scandals. He adopted the pseudonym Jason Rainier and made contributions in the name of the Young Socialist Alliance to the campaign of Pete McCloskey, who was challenging Nixon for the Republican nomination in 1972. Stone then sent a receipt to the Manchester Union Leader, to “prove” that Nixon’s adversary was a left-wing stooge. Stone hired another Republican operative, who was given the pseudonym Sedan Chair II, to infiltrate the McGovern campaign. Stone’s Watergate high jinks were revealed during congressional hearings in 1973, and the news cost Stone his job on the staff of Senator Robert Dole. Stone then moved into the world of political consulting, to which he was temperamentally better suited than government service. He co-founded the National Conservative Political Action Committee, which spent money in support of candidates, including Chuck Grassley, of Iowa, and Dan Quayle, in Indiana, who were instrumental in the G.O.P. takeover of the Senate. ....

To some people, the idea that Reagan’s former campaign operatives would become lobbyists was shocking. In 1985, in what reads like a charming period piece from a vanished era, Jacob Weisberg wrote a profile of Stone in The New Republic, which bore the headline “State-of-the-Art Sleazeball.” Weisberg said that Stone and his colleagues “have abandoned helping Reagan make conservative ideals reality in order to sell their connections to the highest bidders—whether in service of those ideals or not.” Now such connections are so common as to scarcely merit comment. ... ....

In 1988, Stone worked as a senior consultant to George H. W. Bush’s successful campaign against Michael Dukakis, which was managed by Lee Atwater. The experience prompts a rare disclaimer from Stone, who is usually eager to claim credit for hardball tactics. “We had an ad running about the furloughs in Massachusetts, with a revolving door, and it was really polling well—a great ad—and none of the prisoners were identifiable,” Stone told me. “But then Atwater came in with this version that had Willie Horton’s picture—and he said they were going to have an independent group put it on the air.” ... “I told Atwater that it was a mistake, that we were winning the issue without having to resort to this racist crap. I told Atwater, ‘You are going to get linked to this, and it is gonna follow you and George Bush for the rest of your life.’ It did.” ... ....

Stone served as a senior consultant to Bob Dole’s 1996 campaign for President, but that assignment ended in a characteristic conflagration. The National Enquirer, in a story headlined “Top Dole Aide Caught in Group-Sex Ring,” ... ....

... Our whole idea was to shut the recount down. That was why we were there. We had the frequency to the Democrats’ walkie-talkies and were listening to their communications, but they were so disorganized that we didn’t learn much that was useful.” ....

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UTUSN

(70,683 posts)
9. From the second link:
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 12:04 AM
Aug 2015

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http://www.villagevoice.com/news/the-sex-scandal-that-put-bush-in-the-white-house-6407173
[font size=5]The Sex Scandal That Put Bush in the White House[/font]
By Wayne Barrett with special reporting by Jessie Singer

Tuesday, May 11, 2004 | 11 years ago

Pat Buchanan is on the tube again, co-hosting a Crossfire facsimile on MSNBC. Just a celebrity commentator now, he changed the face of American politics in 2000—unnoticed by a recount-focused media. First, he seized control of the most successful third party in half a century, the Reform Party, whose founder, Ross Perot, cost Bush I the presidency in 1992. Once Buchanan became the party's presidential nominee, he mysteriously disappeared, getting 2.4 million votes less than Ralph Nader, 80,000 less in Florida alone. The Buchanan saga remains important not only because it reveals the seamy underside of Bush II's ascent to power, but because it shows how the GOP virtually eliminated a national centrist party that could've altered the 2004 race. ....

Buchanan says that when he ran for president in 1992, 1996, and 2000, he was dogged by "an unsubstantiated rumor" that he had an illegitimate child while a Georgetown undergrad between 1957 and 1961. "I don't know who ginned it up," says Buchanan. "Do I have suspicions? Sure. Reporters realized these people were doing something to damage me and decided not to write it. The same kind of thing was used against McCain." But in the 2000 campaign, a new allegation was added to the tale that made it more damaging and more likely to see print. Ex-aides were telling reporters that Buchanan had made payments to the mother to kill the story. One reputed 1992 money trail, albeit perfectly legal, involved an intricate chain of personal checks—from Buchanan to his sister to an aide, who then delivered cashier checks to a Washington lawyer. Asked about the child and these payments, Pat Buchanan told the Voice: "I'm not going to go into that. I don't know the details of anything. It deals with a private matter. We did nothing wrong."

Bay Buchanan, who goes further than her brother and calls the baby allegation "false," concedes that in fact she did "make some payments," delivered by an aide, to the lawyer "because Pat was out of town campaigning for 10 weeks" in New Hampshire and elsewhere in early 1992. She says Pat either prepaid or "reimbursed" her and that she "thinks" the lawyer had "done some legal work for Pat." She confirmed that the lawyer was once married to a woman Pat had dated during his Georgetown years. Saying that "our opponents were pushing" the story "every time we did well," Bay Buchanan said she had not heard Stone's name associated with it, but knew "people close to Roger" were. Stone minced no words when asked about the charges: "There's no doubt this illegitimate child story is true. My understanding is that Buchanan supported the child and made educational payments. It would be honorable."

But Stone also cited "a controversy about hush money," contending that a top Buchanan aide, Scott Mackenzie, "quit because of it." Reporters in fact contacted Mackenzie in 1999 shortly after Stone discussed the Buchanan issues with him. "I have no specific memory of being one of the people who suggested this story to reporters," insists Stone now, "but this is widely known information and it's not inconceivable that someone did." Stone recalled that the story was "heavily peddled in 1996 by Phil Gramm's people," referring to the former Texas senator who was running against Buchanan that February. Stone's longtime partner Charles Black was running Gramm's campaign and concedes it "did come up," though he says he told the staff not to answer press questions about it. John Weaver, however, another top Gramm aide, says he "got reports that phone calls were being made" by the campaign. Black also concedes that he "heard about it in 1992," when he was running the Bush I campaign, but says he got it from a reporter whose name he could not recall, and that he "shut down" the Bush staff "from discussing it." Black says he doesn't "remember discussing it with Roger," but "wouldn't be surprised" if Stone was circulating it. ....

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UTUSN

(70,683 posts)
10. From the third link:
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 12:20 AM
Aug 2015

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http://www.salon.com/2015/01/28/roger_stone_vs_the_world_inside_the_conspiracy_filled_mind_of_legendary_gop_trickster/
Wednesday, Jan 28, 2015 07:30 AM CST
[font size=5]Roger Stone vs. the world: Inside the conspiracy-filled mind of legendary GOP trickster[/font]
When the definitive history of postwar American politics is written, there will be a chapter exclusively devoted to “ratfucking,” which was the delicate term of art that members of Richard Nixon’s goon squad would use to describe the countless (and frequently illegal) acts of subterfuge and sabotage they engaged in on their president’s behalf. And when that chapter is written, a sizable chunk will be devoted to one Roger Stone, a longtime GOP operative whose number of dirty tricks is nearly as large as the amount of ink spilled by journalists over the years attempting to catalog them. (And we’re not even mentioning his brief association with none other than the Rev. Al Sharpton…) ....

(STONE: ) Nixon, in his epic 1968 comeback, understood he needed both wings of the Republican Party; he needed Nelson Rockefeller and Jacob Javits but he also needed Ronald Reagan and Barry Goldwater and John Tower. You find yourself in the same dilemma (if you’re a Republican running for president in 2016). The Republicans have to figure out how to nominate a candidate who everybody in the party can get behind, and that may be easier said than done.

Is there anyone out there right now that you think could do what Nixon and Reagan did and unite the party’s various factions?

(STONE: ) The party either needs to nominate an outsider like Donald Trump — a businessman, someone who’s not beholden to any particular wing — or they need to go to someone like Scott Walker, governor of Wisconsin, who is battle-tested and who has not only won an election but beat back a recall and an attempt to take away the state Senate and then got reelected in a tough state for Republicans. I think those are potentially among your stronger candidates.

Jeb Bush makes half the people in the party walk out; Chris Christie makes half the people in the party walk out; Rand Paul, many of whose ideas I like because I’m a Goldwater Republican … there are a lot of Republicans who would walk out if he was the nominee. You have to choose a nominee who can keep everybody on board, and I think to do that the party may have to think outside the box. ....

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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
13. Guy sports a Nixon tattoo.
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 09:12 AM
Aug 2015

Underneath the skin, though, he's got an interesting worldview.
A co-founder of National Conservative Political Action Committee,
Roger the Odd also worked for Pruneface.



Who knows where his real loyalties lie?

The great DUer UTUSN saw the guy as a disinformation specialist way back in the day.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
15. Stone working for Trump makes me wonder if establishment isn't behind Trump
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 12:28 PM
Apr 2016

I just heard he was working for Trump re the Cruz mistress story.

With his track record of service to establishment pols, it's hard to believe he's gone "rogue" with his support for Trump.

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