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Sat Aug 8, 2015, 05:58 PM

Do Schumer and the other Iran Hawks really want another war?

I'm not asking a rhetorical question. I want those who are students of the Iran situation to educate me.

If they want a war, do they really think they can sell that after Iraq?

If they don't want a war, what do they really want, and what do they hope to get out of it?

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Reply Do Schumer and the other Iran Hawks really want another war? (Original post)
MicaelS Aug 2015 OP
Octafish Aug 2015 #1
orpupilofnature57 Aug 2015 #3
orpupilofnature57 Aug 2015 #2
OldHippieChick Aug 2015 #4
geek tragedy Aug 2015 #6
craigmatic Aug 2015 #12
Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2015 #5
hifiguy Aug 2015 #7
Egnever Aug 2015 #8
Iggo Aug 2015 #9
restorefreedom Aug 2015 #10
craigmatic Aug 2015 #11
KG Aug 2015 #13

Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Sat Aug 8, 2015, 06:03 PM

1. Seems that the warmongers have been exposed.

President Obama has stood up to them, increasingly alone.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #1)

Sat Aug 8, 2015, 06:04 PM

3. + 1000 !!!!!!

 

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Sat Aug 8, 2015, 06:04 PM

2. No, they need to provide 600% for the needy .

 

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Sat Aug 8, 2015, 06:10 PM

4. Okay, I admit I'm not fully-schooled on Chuckie,

but it seems as though he's been a pretty good leader on many issues. It seems as though he is making this decision based on a Jewish constituency that apparently does not attack his fellow NY Senator as much. I don't know if he's in Nettie's pocket or just trying to play a tough hand. I don't believe he's happy about this, but felt squeezed. Please enlighten me.

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Response to OldHippieChick (Reply #4)

Sat Aug 8, 2015, 06:20 PM

6. Schemer supported the Iraq war using the same logic he's using to

 

justify war with Iran.

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Response to OldHippieChick (Reply #4)

Sat Aug 8, 2015, 09:16 PM

12. He's liberal only on issues not involving Israel then he's a neocon.

 

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Sat Aug 8, 2015, 06:16 PM

5. So hard to say

They don't really say anything other than the deal is bad and that it (somehow) makes it more likely for Iran to get a nuclear weapon, nor are they really prodded much by MSM to say what they woud do instead . Tom Cotton naively says that we can "reset" Iran's nuclear program back to "Day Zero" through some bombing. I would suspect that most Republicans are simply opposing the deal out of being their usual reflexively anti-Obama selves and/or because of their adoration of their Israeli right-wing counterpart, Bibi. I don't know what Schumer and some of the other Dems have against the deal or what they think is the answer is other than simply continuing the sanctions until..........????? I'm not hearing a lot of explicit calls for war with Iran, probably because most Republicans know that another war would be massively unpopular with the public and, right now, they aren't in the WH to actually pull the trigger for it. The Republicans seem to mistakenly believe that President Obama has taken military force off the table with the deal (though military force if warranted is NEVER taken off the table). President Obama clearly doesn't want war with Iran and the only way he- or a Democratic predecessor- would do it would be because he/she gets dragged into something or Iran does something clearly provocative.

In short,

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Sat Aug 8, 2015, 06:33 PM

7. Yes, they want a war, and very badly.

 

Because their masters and owners want one and will reap enormous profits from it.

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Sat Aug 8, 2015, 06:36 PM

8. Schumer wants to continue collecting campaign contributions from his constituents.

 

He has always done whatever AIPAC wanted him to do.

I think it took him so long to come to his "decision" because they were counting the votes. I think he can vote no and it will still pass.

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Sat Aug 8, 2015, 08:44 PM

9. I'm gonna hafta go with Yes.

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Sat Aug 8, 2015, 09:08 PM

10. yes. nt

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Sat Aug 8, 2015, 09:15 PM

11. Israel wants a war but they want America to fight it for them. We should make foreign PACs illegal.

 

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Sat Aug 8, 2015, 09:22 PM

13. yes.

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