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sketchy

(458 posts)
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 11:52 AM Jul 2015

There is something important happening in Kansas right now

One thing I think DU can do well is raise awareness of important issues.
There may have been election fraud in Kansas last November.
That's as important as it gets, and this issue is receiving very little attention.

I'd like to recommend this interesting OP in the Kansas forum about this.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1052598#post2

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There is something important happening in Kansas right now (Original Post) sketchy Jul 2015 OP
Quote from a poll worker in article at the link sketchy Jul 2015 #1
How does a poll worker know who is ahead? hfojvt Jul 2015 #19
Certainly wouldn't put it past Brownback. (nt) YoungDemCA Jul 2015 #2
I live very near Brownbackistan Cracklin Charlie Jul 2015 #11
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Jul 2015 #3
Check the credit card records of Kenneth Blackwell Chipper Chat Jul 2015 #4
not just kansas questionseverything Jul 2015 #5
The single most important election issues -- Hell Hath No Fury Jul 2015 #6
K&R dorkzilla Jul 2015 #7
Fraud in a Red State??? Gamecock Lefty Jul 2015 #8
nothing will be done about it. I don't know what things our doj does all day long, but Doctor_J Jul 2015 #9
And whatever happened to exit polling? jalan48 Jul 2015 #10
I hope Hillary and all our candidates will try to bring it back sketchy Jul 2015 #17
kick n/t sketchy Jul 2015 #12
So, have we degenerated to the point where it is OK to cheat and nothing will be done about it? world wide wally Jul 2015 #13
Well, yes. It's been going on without comment or action since the big election cheat of 2000 Cleita Jul 2015 #15
The crickets on this topic in national media are insane. sketchy Jul 2015 #16
"Don't tase me bro!" happened to a guy who was asking John Kerry about this topic. arcane1 Jul 2015 #26
neither party will do anything about it. Why is that? bbgrunt Jul 2015 #14
Because they won of course..... socialist_n_TN Jul 2015 #25
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Jul 2015 #18
K&R emsimon33 Jul 2015 #20
Sorry - unconvinced brooklynite Jul 2015 #21
A lawsuit has been filed over voting issues in Kansas sketchy Jul 2015 #22
kick sketchy Jul 2015 #23
K & R Scurrilous Jul 2015 #24
Why is the software private aspirant Jul 2015 #27

sketchy

(458 posts)
1. Quote from a poll worker in article at the link
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 12:19 PM
Jul 2015

"In the gubernatorial race, we experienced unusual issues with voting machines. The recent letter mentioned the voting machines showing a swing to Gov. Sam Brownback during the last 30 minutes of the election. We experienced the same. In fact, I believe Paul Davis was showing a small lead throughout until the polls closed. As we pulled tapes after closing our site to check for irregularities, we saw Brownback had pulled ahead in the last 10 to 20 minutes. Keep in mind the voting machines were acting strangely throughout the evening."

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
19. How does a poll worker know who is ahead?
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 03:49 PM
Jul 2015

Does the voting machine report a running total?

In the poll watching I did for this election, it seemed to me that we were being out-voted, that it was unfortunately not that common for me to cross somebody off of my list, and I live in a more (slightly) Democratic precinct. For example in 2008 the Democratic candidate for Congress won by 291-112. In 2006, she won by 165-66.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
11. I live very near Brownbackistan
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 01:35 PM
Jul 2015

Nobody supports this guy. I haven't seen or heard a single positive comment about him for years.
No way he was legitimately re-elected.

Chipper Chat

(9,675 posts)
4. Check the credit card records of Kenneth Blackwell
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 12:24 PM
Jul 2015

and Karl Rove. By "chance" were their asses in Kansas last November?

questionseverything

(9,646 posts)
5. not just kansas
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 12:25 PM
Jul 2015
http://cjonline.com/news/2015-04-01/wichita-state-mathematician-sues-kris-kobach-sedgwick-county-elections-commisioner

http://fatallyflawedelections.blogspot.com/

All theses electronic voting machines use programs that enjoy copyright protection from public scrutiny, not secure from hacking and there is ample evidence that voting machines can be hacked and here is ours in Arizona! Attorney Bill Risner disclosure statement filed with court Jan 12, 2012, which is a mind blowing, comprehensive statement of facts collected over many years of investigating and litigation of Pima County: http://tinyurl.com/LPFiling

In Tucson, AZ we won 3 court cases to collect the evidence; nevertheless at the end, after 8 years, they would not allow us to present the evidence in court. Pima County Elections programmed the memory cards to rig the outcome of a $2 billion bond election in May 2006. I refer you to this summary article after the Maricopa Appellate Court denied our appeal: http://fatallyflawedelections.blogspot.com/2014/07/elections-remain-compromised.html
 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
9. nothing will be done about it. I don't know what things our doj does all day long, but
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 01:06 PM
Jul 2015

fixing the massive election fraud is not one of them

jalan48

(13,852 posts)
10. And whatever happened to exit polling?
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 01:12 PM
Jul 2015

That's one of the methods the UN uses to verify elections in third world countries where fraud is a concern.

sketchy

(458 posts)
17. I hope Hillary and all our candidates will try to bring it back
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 03:00 PM
Jul 2015

Exit polling needs to resume its rightful place in the election process.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
15. Well, yes. It's been going on without comment or action since the big election cheat of 2000
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 02:44 PM
Jul 2015

which dumped GWB on us. It's sort of like when are we going to protect our citizens from nuts with guns? Apparently, never.

sketchy

(458 posts)
16. The crickets on this topic in national media are insane.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 02:47 PM
Jul 2015

Here's a link to an op-ed on this:

http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article28362433.html

Kris Kobach should help count the votes accurately in Kansas

"Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach needs to provide any help he can in making sure votes have been accurately recorded in Sedgwick County."


From the link:
"Wichita State University mathematician and statistician Beth Clarkson has raised questions about whether Kansas voting machines are accurately counting some votes in Sedgwick County. Understandably, she wants tests conducted to see if the odd election returns she has seen have been, in fact, truly reported.

Sedgwick County election officials haven’t released paper records needed to do recounts. Clarkson is in court now, trying to get the information.

Kobach’s office is part of that lawsuit. As the state’s chief elections official, he should work to help resolve the issue in favor of openness and transparency. His reluctance to strongly embrace that approach makes him look too selective regarding concerns over voter fraud."

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I think the writer should have said, "What Kobach calls voter fraud," and pointed out how miniscule voter fraud is, but I'm glad to see any attention in the media about this outrageous situation.

edited to correct that this is an op-ed, not an AP article

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
26. "Don't tase me bro!" happened to a guy who was asking John Kerry about this topic.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 09:40 PM
Jul 2015

And it's not as if he ambushed Kerry. He was next up at the microphone to ask questions, and dared to wield a Greg Palast book and ask about election fraud.

Actually, he may have been asking about removing people from voter rolls, but my point still stands.

brooklynite

(94,452 posts)
21. Sorry - unconvinced
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 03:58 PM
Jul 2015

ONE letter to the editor by ONE poll volunteer in ONE precinct. Nothing from the State Party or the losing candidate, and no parallel complaints from other districts.

aspirant

(3,533 posts)
27. Why is the software private
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 11:55 PM
Jul 2015

and with Federal elections why isn't the DOJ protecting the people's vote by making election software verifiable?

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