Mon Jul 27, 2015, 01:40 PM

MarianJack (10,237 posts)

A recent talking point I've heard from the gun nuts.

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Sissyk (a host of the General Discussion forum).

As we all know, there has been a nauseating level of brazen behavior recently from the right wing gun nut ammosexuals who are determined to insure that nobody will ever interfere with their "God Given" right to have as many assault substitute penises as possible. Those people who are fully convinced that the solution to any gun violence is to throw more guns at the situation and whose apparent slogan for NRA Christianity is "WWJS" or, "Who Would Jesus Shoot"?

Lately I've seen this new talking point hanging on a sign in the window of a gun shop in Lewiston, Maine and it was used as an argument against me in a Facebook thread started by a gun nut who called on us to not politicize the military shootings as he went into his rant about his sacred 2nd Amendment rights and how liberals had better not try to take HIS guns!

When I pointed out that the NRA solution to gun violence is always more guns, a couple of people responded with a new (to me at least) response.

"I'll be happy to not use MY gun to protect YOUR family WHEN someone breaks into your house in the middle of the night"!

Statistically, I know that it is much more likely that a gun will wind up being used on it's owner when they lose their nerve, piss in their pants and have the gun taken from them. I also know that a gun owner is much more likely to shoot himself or an innocent person because they have NO IDEA of how to use a gun properly.

SO, to any Rambo wannabe junior Yosemite Sams out there who want to deprive my family and I of your protection because I see no need to have a gun in my home, I say this...

...Please DON'T "protect" me and my family. given that in 60 years of my life, my house has never been broken into. I would feel MUCH better if you gun and YOU stayed FAR away from my home, family and me! I'll feel safer not being around the type of people who believe that they need an assault rifle to buy a cheeseburger.

if you're offended by this, I frankly don't give 3/10 of a tat's ass. To the thinking people out there, I say...

PEACE!

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15 replies	Author	Time	Post
A recent talking point I've heard from the gun nuts. (Original post)	MarianJack	Jul 2015	OP
The person breaking in is likely to have a gun made easily available by policies they support	villager	Jul 2015	#1
The gun nuts NEVER consider...	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#4
This country has devolved into a 2nd Amendment Death Cult. (Rude Pundit's column, today.)	Paladin	Jul 2015	#2
And of course, none of the other Amendments count!	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#5
With gun lovers it is just like those guys who speed in cars constantly, because they are "just better drivers",	Fred Sanders	Jul 2015	#3
Safety?	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#6
Scalia did his best to get rid of the militia clause, with the Heller decision.	Paladin	Jul 2015	#8
Years ago, we were robbed (when we weren't at home), and later, some crazy person shot at the house	shenmue	Jul 2015	#7
I thought you said	sarisataka	Jul 2015	#10
Not sure why this thread hasn't been locked.	cherokeeprogressive	Jul 2015	#9
Yes, the gun nuts are so sophisticated in their use of complex logic.	Nitram	Jul 2015	#11
"When I pointed out that the NRA solution to gun violence is always more guns..."	beevul	Jul 2015	#12
Huh	TeddyR	Jul 2015	#13
Wow. That's a lot of emotion as a result of a FB chat.	aikoaiko	Jul 2015	#14
Locking	Sissyk	Jul 2015	#15

Response to MarianJack (Original post)

Mon Jul 27, 2015, 01:52 PM

villager (26,001 posts)

1. The person breaking in is likely to have a gun made easily available by policies they support

And I'm quite doubtful they'd "make it over" in time to for all the shootin' and blastin' they're so deliciously contemplating

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Response to villager (Reply #1)

Mon Jul 27, 2015, 02:08 PM

MarianJack (10,237 posts)

4. The gun nuts NEVER consider...

...that the person they shoot at may also shoot back. It's like the old WWII joke that ends with "Why would a German want to shoot ME"?

PEACE!

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Response to MarianJack (Original post)

Mon Jul 27, 2015, 01:59 PM

Paladin (26,592 posts)

2. This country has devolved into a 2nd Amendment Death Cult. (Rude Pundit's column, today.)

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Response to Paladin (Reply #2)

Mon Jul 27, 2015, 02:10 PM

MarianJack (10,237 posts)

5. And of course, none of the other Amendments count!

PEACE!

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Response to MarianJack (Original post)

Mon Jul 27, 2015, 02:05 PM

Fred Sanders (23,946 posts)

3. With gun lovers it is just like those guys who speed in cars constantly, because they are "just better drivers",

and no amount of statistics about speeding and accidents will make any difference to their self-delusion.

"A well regulated militia..." is the part that drives gun nuts and the NRA brethren to just lose it every time, so much so that they removed those words from the engraving of the second amendment carved into the facade of their national HQ.

I like to say that the NRA has set their lies in stone right at their front door.

"Today at the NRA’s headquarters in Fairfax, Virginia, oversized letters on the facade no longer refer to “marksmanship” and “safety.” Instead, the Second Amendment is emblazoned on a wall of the building’s lobby. Visitors might not notice that the text is incomplete. It reads:
“.. the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”

The first half—the part about the well regulated militia—has been edited out."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/05/nra-guns-second-amendment-106856_Page2.html#ixzz3h7ICiEMh

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #3)

Mon Jul 27, 2015, 02:12 PM

MarianJack (10,237 posts)

6. Safety?

PUHLEEZE!!!

PEACE!

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #3)

Mon Jul 27, 2015, 02:38 PM

Paladin (26,592 posts)

8. Scalia did his best to get rid of the militia clause, with the Heller decision.

Heller is a SCOTUS ruling that reads like it was taken down verbatim from the NRA's Wayne LaPierre---just one big wish list from the pro-gun movement, with virtually all those wishes fulfilled.....

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Response to MarianJack (Original post)

Mon Jul 27, 2015, 02:14 PM

shenmue (38,399 posts)

7. Years ago, we were robbed (when we weren't at home), and later, some crazy person shot at the house

Not one gun nut showed up to help us. Nope. Only the NYPD.

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Response to shenmue (Reply #7)

Mon Jul 27, 2015, 02:46 PM

sarisataka (15,528 posts)

10. I thought you said

Not one gun nut showed up.
Did NYPD send two?

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Response to MarianJack (Original post)

Mon Jul 27, 2015, 02:38 PM

cherokeeprogressive (24,853 posts)

9. Not sure why this thread hasn't been locked.

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Response to MarianJack (Original post)

Mon Jul 27, 2015, 02:48 PM

Nitram (20,359 posts)

11. Yes, the gun nuts are so sophisticated in their use of complex logic.

Like Perry, who suggests that everyone start shooting randomly into the darkness the next time there's a movie theater shooting.

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Response to MarianJack (Original post)

Mon Jul 27, 2015, 03:03 PM

beevul (12,194 posts)

12. "When I pointed out that the NRA solution to gun violence is always more guns..."

When I pointed out that the NRA solution to gun violence is always more guns, a couple of people responded with a new (to me at least) response.

I don't suppose you've given any thought to this fact:

We as a society, have decided that whenever there is active gun violence, that the default and standard response, is to send people with guns to deal with it.

Its pretty hard to lay that at the feet of the nra.

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Response to MarianJack (Original post)

Mon Jul 27, 2015, 03:06 PM

TeddyR (2,493 posts)

13. Huh

At least you didn't engage in hyperbole or uninformed personal attacks. I'm sure that this type of reasoned discussion is exactly what is needed to convince the majority of Americans who support an individual right to keep and bear arms that you have cornered the market on how we should handle this issue.

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Response to MarianJack (Original post)

Mon Jul 27, 2015, 03:11 PM

aikoaiko (33,328 posts)

14. Wow. That's a lot of emotion as a result of a FB chat.

Please, continue.

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Response to MarianJack (Original post)

Mon Jul 27, 2015, 03:16 PM

Sissyk (12,665 posts)

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