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Fri Jul 24, 2015, 04:10 PM

Itís Time to Reconsider Barry Bonds for the Hall of Fame

Years ago, we posed a question about a question, wondering how the court of public opinion, along with the guardians of baseball, might have dealt with Barry Bonds had he answered affirmatively when a federal grand jury asked him in December 2003 about his use of performance-enhancing drugs.

What if Bonds, we asked, had said he had surrendered to steroid use because it had practically become an institutionalized necessity, the key to unlocking the door to statistical and lifestyle riches?

And that his involvement was influenced by nothing less sacred than a pursuit of the American Dream, all pumped up.

In 2006, Fay Vincent, the former baseball commissioner, told us: ďWe are a terrifically forgiving country, in part because we have such a low standard of morality. But Iíve thought about this question a lot, and I believe that people would have forgiven Barry Bonds.Ē



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Reply Itís Time to Reconsider Barry Bonds for the Hall of Fame (Original post)
ghostsinthemachine Jul 2015 OP
Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #1
tkmorris Jul 2015 #2
ghostsinthemachine Jul 2015 #3
Dawgs Jul 2015 #8
artislife Jul 2015 #4
London Lover Man Jul 2015 #5
1000words Jul 2015 #6
Blue_Tires Jul 2015 #7
madokie Jul 2015 #9

Response to ghostsinthemachine (Original post)

Fri Jul 24, 2015, 04:12 PM

1. Um, nope.

What if Bonds, we asked, had said he had surrendered to steroid use because it had practically become an institutionalized necessity, the key to unlocking the door to statistical and lifestyle riches?


I'd still call him a cheater who did whatever he could to get rich, no different from other fraudsters.

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Response to ghostsinthemachine (Original post)

Fri Jul 24, 2015, 04:19 PM

2. Not just no, HELL no

Letting him in would do a tremendous disservice to all of those who got in without using drugs to do it, even more so to those who got close but missed out.

It's completely absurd to me that assholes like Bonds get away with a slap on the wrist for their crimes while someone like Pete Rose gets suspended for life, for GAMBLING. Really? Insanity.

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Response to tkmorris (Reply #2)

Fri Jul 24, 2015, 04:23 PM

3. So should they toss all drug users out then?

Amphetamines were very prevalent in baseball so it is unlikely, in fact impossible, to think that Willie Mays, Mickey Mantle, Roberto Clemente or all the other greats did not take them.

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Response to ghostsinthemachine (Reply #3)

Fri Jul 24, 2015, 04:51 PM

8. 'They all did it' is not a very convincing argument.

 

Sorry.

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Response to ghostsinthemachine (Original post)

Fri Jul 24, 2015, 04:35 PM

4. no

 

I would rather Pete Rose go in before any of the flagrant ball players.

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Response to ghostsinthemachine (Original post)

Fri Jul 24, 2015, 04:37 PM

5. His chances are jack and shit...

 

and Jack left town....

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Response to ghostsinthemachine (Original post)

Fri Jul 24, 2015, 04:51 PM

7. Fuck that shit -- I could name a bunch who belong in the HOF before he does...

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Response to ghostsinthemachine (Original post)

Fri Jul 24, 2015, 04:56 PM

9. I don't think so

He's a cheater, jeeeze

Lets just start saying its ok to be a sleezeball why don't we

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