Should the Senate Democrats support or oppose the Iran agreement by the Obama White House?

[kentuck]

No doubt, there will be a few Democrats vote with the Republicans on this. However, we could hope that there are not enough to over-ride the President's veto?

Are you watching?

[geek tragedy]

1. All should support it, and any that vote against it and for war with Iran

should be stripped of leadership positions.

[mcar]

2. +1000

As the president said, what is the detractor's alternative plan?

[kentuck]

4. I would agree.

There comes a time to stand together.

[blm]

20. Fully agree. This has to be our line in the sand against the warmongers and profiteers.

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[COLGATE4]

28. + another 1000

[spanone]

3. i'm ashamed of my asshole senator bob corker.

[blm]

21. Call his office and let him know -

get your family and friends to do the same.

He's siding with war profiteers over best step towards peace.

[Angry Dragon]

5. I do not think the agreement is tough enough

[geek tragedy]

6. the agreement is not perfect, no agreement is. What is your alternative? nt

[kentuck]

7. Perhaps they could negotiate one-on-one with the Iranians?

..but still agree with the agreement already signed? Otherwise, what is the alternative to keep them from continuing nuclear production of a "BOMB"?

Are we ready for more war in the Middle East? Isn't it about time to bring our people home?

[Angry Dragon]

9. We will be waring in the Middle-East for the next fifty years

[kentuck]

10. Then we will not be a country in fifty years...

would be my guess. We cannot survive in a continuous war.

[Angry Dragon]

12. the wealthy don't care about countries

[kentuck]

14. Exactly why!

we cannot continue the wars in the Middle East. Those folks are going to have to figure it out amongst themselves. Their oil supplies are going to depreciate in the future because of new sources of energy. That is a reality they will have to deal with.

[Angry Dragon]

18. I was talking more of the wealthy of the world not

just in the Middle-East

but you are right about the oil

water is next

then air

[jberryhill]

27. So, the Iranians should agree to something "tougher"?

How do you make that happen?

[Angry Dragon]

29. send Mossad in??

[BillZBubb]

32. Are you trying to be sarcastic?

Or are you really that deluded?

[Angry Dragon]

38. yes and no

[jberryhill]

36. Brilliant plan

[Cosmic Kitten]

8. No brainer... fully support the agreement

We need to deescalate tensions ASAP!

Right-wingers and chicken hawks
are stoking fears, which lead to conflict.

Those supporting the Sunni extremists
against the secular Shia majority will
lead us all to extinction.

Sabotaging the agreement benefits 3 parties...
-Sunni extremists/Saudi Arabia
-Israel
-right-wing/MIC

[kentuck]

11. +1000

Thanks for speaking truth to power.

[Cosmic Kitten]

17. Call 'em like I see 'em

[Jim Beard]

13. We have to have it!

Whats the alternative? Nothing being done at all will risk the unity with other countries. We really need a good replacement for Jon Stweart, one who can give us the facts of the opposition we really need.

[steve2470]

15. support! nt

[beforeiknewbetter]

16. Maybe get the other Middle eastern countries more involved in the agreement

I do know they all had representatives at the talks but many are showing concerns about the agreement .

It seems now this is just a U.S agreement only. Iran is a thorn in the side of many Middle eastern countries.

[Cosmic Kitten]

19. You could use some lite reading

May I suggest:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P5%2B1

As to Iran being a "thorn",
only to the Sunni extremists.

The same Sunni extremists who
perpetrated 9/11, ISIL, Al-Qaeda, Taliban.

[beforeiknewbetter]

23. So they had no representatives at all for other countries in the region?

I have to admit I haven't read everything on this.

So this is why Kerry is going to speak to the Saudis now .


I read they were very concerned about this deal if it's signed . I know they have their share of wacko extremists
there but for the most part they are an ally of the U.S

[Cosmic Kitten]

24. Define "ally"?

Saudia Arabia is an oppressive theocracy
that regularly and publicly commits
human rights abuses.

Since when does a Democracy
consider a country that publicly
whips or flays people for blasphemy
an ally? hint: when they have oil.
SRSLY

They are a medieval nation with
a precious natural resource our
nation has proven it will go to
any length to secure.

We are oil addicts who ignore
the barbarism of our dealers.

[beforeiknewbetter]

25. It's of course because they have oil

We have the ability and natural resources to become independent for our own oil if need be but at what price ..

We will never be rid of oil's clutch on our government . Any viable alternative will always be blocked ..always

[Cosmic Kitten]

31. "Never" is a strong word

The military is already seeking
alternative fuels, as oil based
fuel supplies can make or break
a column's mobility.

Necessity is the mother of invention

[beforeiknewbetter]

35. I hope you're right and I live long enough to see it in my life time

[zipplewrath]

22. Relatively inconsequential

Congress can't stop this without a veto override and they'll never get that. Truth is that the GOP doesn't want to. They just don't want their fingerprints on this. They'll get to campaign (and fund raise) on this for a few election cycles, more if Iran stirs up trouble some where. But in the long run this is a bit like the Panama Canal. We heard for a few election cycles about how Carter "gave away Our canal", but ultimately everyone forgot. We don't talk about "who lost China" anymore either.

[BillZBubb]

30. This is an old repub tactic.

They make a big issue about something crying night and day how it spells doom for America. They always act like they want it killed outright. In reality they know it is the best option, but they want an issue to get the empty headed base worked up.

The Panama Canal is one. The Clinton tax hikes is another. Recently we have gay marriage and Obamacare. And now this Iran deal.

[still_one]

26. Support, yes. Call your Senators and representative

[BillZBubb]

33. Absolutely support.

This is the best deal we're going to get. The right wing alternative is to start another war.

[Bradical79]

34. It depends...

If they want to increase the odds of Iran getting nukes and think a major war in the region sounds like a good time, then they should try to override Obama's veto. Otherwise, giving him support seems like he way to go.

[realFedUp]

37. Support

Nt