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Former Sen. Saxby Chambliss says he believes Edward Snowden should be publicly hanged as soon the United States can get our hands on him.
The Republican from Georgia, who recently retired from the Senate, served previously as the vice chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.
Chambliss was speaking at the University of Georgia in July, reflecting on his career in the Senate when he made the comments. He was responding to a question about the hack of the Office of Personnel Management (OPM), the largest data breach in U.S. government history.
This is real and the worst part of it not unlike the Snowden incident, which I hope none of you have sympathy for him because we need to hang him on the courthouse square as soon as we get our hands on him but just like were gonna lose American lives as a result of this breach, Chambliss said earlier this month.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/retired-senator-and-intelligence-vice-chair-hang#.wtQJkwk6Q
theaocp
(4,236 posts)Remind me again why these crazies dislike places like Iran? So much in common. Then again, they do love Saudi Arabia. So, are they Sunni, then?
n2doc
(47,953 posts)JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Wahhabism is a sect under Sunni Islam so technically correct though beliefs and practices are radically different than the traditional Sunni sect I feel the media makes a mistake to identify them as such considering 70% of Muslims are Sunnis and the Sunni sect alone outnumbers the worldwide Christian population. Malcolm X is an example of a Sunni Islam -- the Sunni Ottoman Empire fought many wars against the Wahhabis including executing their religious leaders following the Egypt-Wahhabi war. Mecca was taken back from them so many times and in the beginning and still consistent with their idea of preventing the possibility of idolatry desecrated Muhammad's immediate families graves when they first did control the area and recently moved his grave to an undisclosed location.
Wahhabism same ideology as Taliban, ISIS, Al-Qaeda, the dictators of Sudan, Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, etc.
Wahhabism (Arabic: وهابية?, Wahhābiya(h)) or Wahhabi mission[1] (/wəˈhɑːbi, wɑː-/;[2] Arabic: ألدعوة ألوهابية?, ad-Da'wa al-Wahhābiya(h) ) is a religious movement or branch of Sunni Islam.[3][4][5][6] It has been variously described as "orthodox", "ultraconservative",[7] "austere",[3] "fundamentalist",[8] "puritanical"[9] (or "puritan" ;[10] as an Islamic "reform movement" to restore "pure monotheistic worship" (tawhid), by scholars and advocates[11] and as an "extremist pseudo-Sunni movement" by opponents.[12] Adherents often object to the terms "Wahhabi" and "Wahhabism" as derogatory, and prefer to be called Salafi or muwahhid.[13][14][15]
The name Wahhabism stems from the eighteenth-century preacher and scholar, Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab (17031792).[16] He started a revivalist movement in the remote, sparsely populated region of Najd,[17] advocating a purging of practices such as the popular "cult of saints", and shrine and tomb visitation, widespread among Muslims, but which he considered idolatry, impurities and innovations in Islam.[5][18] Eventually he formed a pact with a local leader Muhammad bin Saud offering political obedience and promising that protection and propagation of the Wahhabi movement would mean "power and glory" and rule of "lands and men."[19] The movement centers on the principle of tawhid,[20] or the "uniqueness" and "unity" of God.[18] The movement also draws from the teachings of medieval theologian Ibn Taymiyyah and early jurist Ahmad ibn Hanbal.[21]
The alliance between followers of ibn Abd al-Wahhab and Muhammad bin Saud's successors (the House of Saud) proved to be rather durable. The house of bin Saud continued to maintain its politico-religious alliance with the Wahhabi sect through the waxing and waning of its own political fortunes over the next 150 years, through to its eventual proclamation of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia in 1932, and then afterwards, on into modern times. As of 2015 Mohammed bin Abd Al-Wahhab's teachings are state-sponsored and are the official form of Sunni Islam[3][22] in 21st-century Saudi Arabia.[23]
Pact with Muhammad bin Saud
"This oasis is yours, do not fear your enemies. By the name of God, if all Nejd was summoned to throw you out, we will never agree to expel you."
Madawi al-Rasheed, A History of Saudi Arabia: 16
Muhammad ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhab replied:
"You are the settlement's chief and wise man. I want you to grant me an oath that you will perform jihad (Struggle to spread Islam) against the unbelievers. In return you will be imam, leader of the Muslim community and I will be leader in religious matters."
Madawi al-Rasheed, A History of Saudi Arabia: 16
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_ibn_Abd_al-Wahhab#Pact_with_Muhammad_bin_Saud
malaise
(268,957 posts)More American lives were lost because of 9/11 and the fat that Bushco ignored the intelligence warnings.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2008/11/13/32286/chambliss-cleland-truthful/
The asswipe? Oh yeah, that's Saxby Chambliss.
niyad
(113,277 posts)and, as I recall, in addition to the lies about cleland, there were serious questions about the truth of chambliss' "win" over cleland. seems that the presidential vote wasn't the only one in dispute.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)No need to pile on.
Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)First of a series of ES&S/Diebold s/elections to create the illusion that the American people are brain-damaged assholes who can't tell the difference between real leaders and brain-damaged asshole leaders.
Between 2002 and 2004, our vote counting system was STOLEN as electronic voting machines were spread like a plague across the country, most of them sold by ES&S (which bought out Diebold), all of them run on 'TRADE SECRET' programming code--code that the public is forbidden to review--with NO AUDIT AT ALL in half the states in the country (including Georgia), and a miserably inadequate 1% audit in the other half. You wonder how a brain-damaged asshole fascist like Scott Walker could become governor of one of our most progressive states? THIS. IS. HOW.
So, when some brain-dead fascist asshole comes out with yet another brain-dead fascist asshole policy, action or statement--like hanging a whistleblower in public--we should actually be comforted by the fact that he or she was very likely chosen by phantom voters manufactured in ES&S's basement in Omaha, Nebraska.
Then--after we feel a bit comforted by the mind-boggling fact that most of our votes are 'counted' by ONE, PRIVATE, FAR RIGHTWING-CONNECTED CORPORATE USING 'TRADE SECRET' CODE--we need to have a real 'Boston Tea Party' and throw these election theft machines into the nearest swamp water that we can find (so to speak).
senz
(11,945 posts)Hope President Sanders will make it a priority. Voting, of all things. should be honest and transparent, nothing hidden but the identity of the voter.
spooky3
(34,441 posts)Virginia voted 8 years ago to phase out the machines:
http://newsroom.arlingtonva.us/release/arlington-moves-to-digital-scanner-voting-machines/
And here's a story about changes in other states:
http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/222470-states-ditch-electronic-voting-machines
senz
(11,945 posts)but I don't know the current status (I vote absentee) and was not aware of how other states are handling it. It was a huge issue on leftie sites during the BushCo years and sometimes got mentioned on TV. I attended a rally and hearing in my state and was delighted to see some of the "famous" activists that were mentioned on now defunct web forums.
Thanks for the update. I'm glad to know it's moving along. I think the machines should be outlawed, period. Way too easy to hack, no audit trail, no firm way to settle disputes.
onyourleft
(726 posts)...to keep it classy, Chambliss. This type of comment is certainly unbecoming for an ex-Senator.
senz
(11,945 posts)Not too surprising.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)n2doc
(47,953 posts)Really Progressive and Democratic of them
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)the rage is palpable.
There are some in the intelligence agencies who have also articulated these same comments opining for an immediate execution for Snowden.
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)did something mean to one of his friends, so they deserve to die.
The Struggle for Progress is _Tiresome.
lark
(23,097 posts)Waah, waah, Snowden let the cat out of the bag that my committee was knowingly violating the law by not reporting the unconstitutional and flagrant government privacy invasions. Hang him high!
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)I could make a remark about having small genitalia and needing to compensate for that, but I won't.
dembotoz
(16,802 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)The Senate Vice Chairman of Intelligence says Snowden should be hung as soon as "we" get our hands on him.
No due process.
No trial.
Is everyone clear here now?
(Crickets) Gee this thread is quiet...
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Saxby Chambliss is projecting. He knows there are a lot who deserve mob justice.
Me, I'd see them prosecuted to the full extent of the law; then marched to prison, where they'd spend the rest of their natural days making little rocks out of big ones. We the People could watch them on 24/7 on the Traitor Webcam.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)Chambliss is still an imbecile. Even under the most aggressive interpretation of US intelligence law, Snowden hasn't done anything punishable with a capital sanction.
flobee1
(870 posts)To step up, fly them out of exile and give them the tools they need to make a significant change.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)flobee1
(870 posts)With a ladder james bond style comes to mind
PatrickforO
(14,570 posts)and NSA abuses out on the table.
Hang him? No. He's acted according to his lights to try and make this a better place.
randys1
(16,286 posts)Saxby you need an ASS kicking
KoKo
(84,711 posts)The Crazies just keep outing themselves... But, instead of just laughing at them we might need to start thinking about what this means for our society going forward. That anyone just gets out there and says or does whatever offensive or murderous thing that suits them. The media then passes it along, the people laugh or ignore--and, eventually, it becomes the "New Normal" and not the "Exception."
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)No matter what happens, I want ES to live a very long life...