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yurbud

(39,405 posts)
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 01:56 PM Jul 2015

With declining religion among young and end of Confederate fetish, what's GOP got left?

Their gay marriage, abortion, and a couple of other positions were primarily appeals to religious folks, whose numbers are declining among the young.

The dog whistle racism on blacks is out for an election or two (okay, maybe just one), and the slightly more overt, passive aggressive racism of confederate worship is finally dead at the national and state level forever.

Bashing Latinos is a path to defeat at the national level.

Their economic policy of "let bankers and corporations run wild" probably chafes even many Republican voters (though they only seem to admit it to pollsters).

People across the board seem to be sick of our "War of Terror," on Muslims.

The ginned up World War with Russia is not going to be popular once regular folks realize that's what's in the pipe.

The only thing that seems to be keeping the GOP alive right now is corporate Democrats refuse to decisively put a stake in the core economic policies of deregulation, privatization of government services that diverts our tax dollars to private profits, and low taxes on the rich.

Likewise, corporate Democrats are not acting on a different foreign policy of essentially a unipolar world governed by banks for the profit of the 1%. For all the talk of spreading democracy, both parties will back any coup against a democratic government that tries to put the interests of their own people ahead of the demands of bankers and transnational corporations like oil companies in the Middle and Central Asia, banana plantations in Central America, and sweatshops everywhere else.

In Libya and Syria, Obama has done essentially what Bush did to Iraq: replace a government they don't like with no functional government at all.

And of course that foreign policy requires a military roughly as big as the rest of the world combined and several times larger than our top two potential adversaries, Russia or China, and even a couple of times larger than both of them put together.

A truly multipolar foreign policy that didn't use our military as a way for corporations and banks to make other countries an offer they can't refuse would allow our military to shrink to a truly defensive size, and any troops killed in that role would truly be fighting to preserve our freedom. But neither of the two major parties are going to do this.

What keeps the GOP alive?

The same thing that keeps the Washington Generals alive despite their existence long losing streak to the Harlem Globetrotters: they provide the illusion of competition.

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With declining religion among young and end of Confederate fetish, what's GOP got left? (Original Post) yurbud Jul 2015 OP
Racism and mysogeny Viva_Daddy Jul 2015 #1
the constituency for both is dying yurbud Jul 2015 #2
Good. lonestarnot Jul 2015 #10
I wish that were true... backscatter712 Jul 2015 #18
That was an interesting and though provoking post there Populist_Prole Jul 2015 #3
Agreed! arcane1 Jul 2015 #5
Guns, God, and gays - God and gays = guns. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #4
I notice it often comes down to that Populist_Prole Jul 2015 #8
They just appropriate everything. johnp3907 Jul 2015 #6
Very simple answer: brooklynite Jul 2015 #7
"but I do want them telling YOU what to do, if you are yurbud Jul 2015 #15
They'll probably double down on the War on Women. Arugula Latte Jul 2015 #9
There will always be an enemy to fear. Motown_Johnny Jul 2015 #11
The racist uncle demographic? The shoot first and ask questions later crowd? Initech Jul 2015 #12
Plenty. Guns, hatred for immigrants, non-whites and gay people. The religious fundamenatlists AlinPA Jul 2015 #13
all of those constituencies are dying yurbud Jul 2015 #16
Hope you are correct. PA is a long way from being free of the GOPs power. AlinPA Jul 2015 #17
The Corporate Media will continue to present them as a viable option. greendog Jul 2015 #14
really, really stupid people and/or rick fucking assholes LOVES them some Greedy Old Pig party Skittles Jul 2015 #19
Perhaps their relevance is tied to how much fear they can sow Sheepshank Jul 2015 #20
They've got privatized schools and veto over what goes into the text books for schools Skidmore Jul 2015 #21
now they've got trump. n/t restorefreedom Jul 2015 #22

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
18. I wish that were true...
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 06:33 PM
Jul 2015

...but Gamergate and the fact the r/Coontown exists on Reddit says otherwise. There are plenty of young racist and misogynistic assholes.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
3. That was an interesting and though provoking post there
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 02:04 PM
Jul 2015

While all the points were good, I do believe the last sentence is, in practical terms, the crux of the matter.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
4. Guns, God, and gays - God and gays = guns.
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 02:07 PM
Jul 2015

So maybe the best person to challenge them is a candidate who has a more nuanced position on guns.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
8. I notice it often comes down to that
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 02:35 PM
Jul 2015

A few retired people I used to work with seem to move sharply rightward over the past half-dozen years or so. They're the consummate "low information voters" and always found a way to bash the current administration using the vaguest of talking points or quoting MSM talking head word-salad. Every time I set them straight how either they misunderstood or conflated info/events, and I do mean EVERY time, they immediately ( and angrily ) take refuge in the gun issue to defend their beliefs.

It's like they tried like hell not to come accross as single-issue gun humpers and tried to sound reasonable and informed; but just didn't have enough knowledge of the issues to pull it off.

johnp3907

(3,730 posts)
6. They just appropriate everything.
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 02:19 PM
Jul 2015

Ted Nugent calls MLK his hero. Glenn Beck claims it was the conservatives who fought for civil rights in the sixties. They'll just carry on in this vein, and people will believe it.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
15. "but I do want them telling YOU what to do, if you are
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 05:39 PM
Jul 2015

Gay, poor, Muslim, immigrant, a teacher..."

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
11. There will always be an enemy to fear.
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 04:00 PM
Jul 2015

The (R)s will always create some boogie man to keep their base voting for them.


AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
13. Plenty. Guns, hatred for immigrants, non-whites and gay people. The religious fundamenatlists
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 04:35 PM
Jul 2015

still have power in the GOP.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
16. all of those constituencies are dying
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 06:06 PM
Jul 2015

It might not seem like it if you live in a rural or mostly white area, but even the gun constituency is dying. Gunmakers have been pushing handguns and assault rifles because hunting, a sport mostly done by rural folks, had already shrunk to the extent that it can't sustain the big Gunmakers. So they either sell to urban and suburban paranoids and cranks, or they go out of business.

greendog

(3,127 posts)
14. The Corporate Media will continue to present them as a viable option.
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 04:46 PM
Jul 2015

There are enough good sheep out there in Flatscreen America who can be conned into staying with the Republican Brand.

Skittles

(153,147 posts)
19. really, really stupid people and/or rick fucking assholes LOVES them some Greedy Old Pig party
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 08:33 PM
Jul 2015

yup

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
20. Perhaps their relevance is tied to how much fear they can sow
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 08:37 PM
Jul 2015

While marketing themselves as the saviours of said manufactured fears.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
21. They've got privatized schools and veto over what goes into the text books for schools
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 08:48 PM
Jul 2015

that are published in Texas and lots of young minds to indoctrinate and fill with revisionist history and lies.

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