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Logical

(22,457 posts)
Wed May 16, 2012, 10:00 PM May 2012

What if a plumber does not want to work on a problem at Planned Parenthood? Or....

what if a telephone repairman does not want to fix a phone issue?

What if a fireman does not want to prevent a planned parenthood from burning down? (after removing the people first)?

What is a cop refuses to address a threat to an abortion doctor?

Should we be able to fire these people? Of course we should.

This pharmacist protection is a joke. I am fine with them not handing over the drug. But their dumb ass should be fired!

This almost seems like a joke it is so stupid!



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What if a plumber does not want to work on a problem at Planned Parenthood? Or.... (Original Post) Logical May 2012 OP
You are absolutely right! robinlynne May 2012 #1
Much of what goes on anymore seems like a joke. Much of it sounds RKP5637 May 2012 #2
I live here. Wish Canada was an option! n-t Logical May 2012 #5
Yep, I know the feeling. This crap is literally insane. They make a RKP5637 May 2012 #6
everyone who doesn't believe and act the way i want them to should be punished. Swamp Lover May 2012 #3
Well said customerserviceguy May 2012 #20
if the pharmacist doesn't want your business, spend your money with someone Swamp Lover May 2012 #24
Next time add some context please. jp11 May 2012 #4
See this DU post, the article and the discussions have a lot of info. RKP5637 May 2012 #8
What if a restaurant owner refuses to serve people who work at Planned Parenthood? Lasher May 2012 #7
Great point! n-t Logical May 2012 #9
I have a feeling it could be the basis for discrimination given this new KS law. n/t RKP5637 May 2012 #10
Therein lies the slipperiest of slippery slopes: arcane1 May 2012 #14
If someone shoots the receptionist at a Planned Parenthood... arcane1 May 2012 #11
IMO it's now authoritarianism paired with religion, of course, the two RKP5637 May 2012 #19
It's discrimination against women. Period. cynatnite May 2012 #12
I remember the arguments to exboyfil May 2012 #13
Not quite the same thing arcane1 May 2012 #17
+1 Dawson Leery May 2012 #15
Bravo, Logical chickypea May 2012 #16
Well here goes... madinmaryland May 2012 #18
What if a cop refuses to address a threat to the pharmacist who wouldn't shraby May 2012 #21
Pharmacists who are unable to fill some prescriptions because of their religious convictions TheDebbieDee May 2012 #22
+1 Logical May 2012 #23

RKP5637

(67,087 posts)
2. Much of what goes on anymore seems like a joke. Much of it sounds
Wed May 16, 2012, 10:06 PM
May 2012

like a SNL skit. The tragic part it's true. I can't imagine anyone making KS a point of destination to live or work unless they just love this sh**.

RKP5637

(67,087 posts)
6. Yep, I know the feeling. This crap is literally insane. They make a
Wed May 16, 2012, 10:11 PM
May 2012

mockery of what was once a country.

 

Swamp Lover

(431 posts)
3. everyone who doesn't believe and act the way i want them to should be punished.
Wed May 16, 2012, 10:08 PM
May 2012

freedom means freedom to agree with me and nothing more.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
20. Well said
Wed May 16, 2012, 10:59 PM
May 2012

Yes, there are people who do not agree with us. Causing them to holler that they are persecuted doesn't do a damned thing to help our cause.

 

Swamp Lover

(431 posts)
24. if the pharmacist doesn't want your business, spend your money with someone
Wed May 16, 2012, 11:50 PM
May 2012

who does. that's how it works. if the pharmacy suffers for the policy, the problem will take care of itself.

jp11

(2,104 posts)
4. Next time add some context please.
Wed May 16, 2012, 10:08 PM
May 2012

Cause I don't know what you are going on about 'pharmacist protection'.


Lasher

(27,537 posts)
7. What if a restaurant owner refuses to serve people who work at Planned Parenthood?
Wed May 16, 2012, 10:13 PM
May 2012

Pharmacies should have policies to hire only people who are willing to dispense all legal medications. I wonder if any of them do.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
14. Therein lies the slipperiest of slippery slopes:
Wed May 16, 2012, 10:21 PM
May 2012

once it becomes illegal to fire someone for refusing to do their job.

Indeed, will pharmacies be allowed to ask interviewees about this? Will they be able to refuse employment? It's a clash between fundies and business, and repubs will have to choose a side eventually.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
11. If someone shoots the receptionist at a Planned Parenthood...
Wed May 16, 2012, 10:17 PM
May 2012

can the EMTs refuse to take them to the hospital? Can the doctor refuse to treat them?

The way I see it, if you're so uptight that your religious belief revolve 90% around other people's sex lives, then you need to go to work at a pharmacy that doesn't sell contraception. If their employer sells it and they refuse to, they SHOULD be fired!

RKP5637

(67,087 posts)
19. IMO it's now authoritarianism paired with religion, of course, the two
Wed May 16, 2012, 10:39 PM
May 2012

always did go hand in hand IMO. These people are sooo uptight about their arcane religion, they have to enact it into law. And, whatever happened to separation of church and state. This law should be unconstitutional IMO. KS has used state law to impose their religious beliefs on others. Frankly, this entire law is a crock of shit!

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
12. It's discrimination against women. Period.
Wed May 16, 2012, 10:18 PM
May 2012

If it was really on moral grounds, they would refuse to fill prescriptions for Viagra.

We know they will never do that.

This is discrimination plain and simple.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
13. I remember the arguments to
Wed May 16, 2012, 10:20 PM
May 2012

accomodate Muslim women who were checkers who refused to handle pork products. A grocery store accomodated the work arrangement. Can a pharmacy accomodate a pharmacist in the same fashion? It seems like that is the conservative approach to the situation (not passing a special law protecting the pharmacist).

Which brings up the question - should a grocery store accomodate these Muslim women but not allow its pharmacists to also act their conscious? I am not saying a law should be passed in either direction, and the employer should be able to fire either who refuse to do their job. It gets a little stickier when a woman does not access to an alternative pharmacy, but is that any different that in a town that does have a grocery store which offers pork.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
17. Not quite the same thing
Wed May 16, 2012, 10:31 PM
May 2012

People don't go to school to learn how to become checkers. Go to any pharmacy or grocery store, and you'll see more checkers than anything else. If "a" grocery store allows checkers to switch places when pork comes to the register, they are free to do so. If the store has only one checker, and that checker refuses money from a customer buying something that is sold in the store, that person would not have a job.

If a pharmacy can accommodate by having multiple pharmacists, more power to them. They're not going to stock an item that they don't intend to sell.

 

chickypea

(30 posts)
16. Bravo, Logical
Wed May 16, 2012, 10:24 PM
May 2012

I put my money where my mouth is. There are several businesses that post slogans (political and/or religious) and I happily boycott them.
I will also happily spend a bit extra to give my business to companies whose values I agree with.

madinmaryland

(64,931 posts)
18. Well here goes...
Wed May 16, 2012, 10:34 PM
May 2012

What if a plumber does not want to work on a problem at Planned Parenthood?

---> Depends on the beliefs of the boss. If the plumber works for himself, then he just lost some business.

what if a telephone repairman does not want to fix a phone issue?

---> May be subject to discipline, but the huge phone companies will probably bury the issue. If he is a subcontractor, he may or may not get called back, depending on who he is working for.

What if a fireman does not want to prevent a planned parenthood from burning down? (after removing the people first)?

---> Depends on what state he/she is in.

What is a cop refuses to address a threat to an abortion doctor?

---> Depends on what state he/she is in.

What will get you fired?

---> Working for a company that Mitt RMoney invests in.



shraby

(21,946 posts)
21. What if a cop refuses to address a threat to the pharmacist who wouldn't
Wed May 16, 2012, 11:01 PM
May 2012

fill a prescription for his daughters or his wifes birth control pills?

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
22. Pharmacists who are unable to fill some prescriptions because of their religious convictions
Wed May 16, 2012, 11:06 PM
May 2012

should a new career, one in which their religious convictions won't be challenged. These pharmacists should not torture themselves by constantly wrestling with their consciences about doling out birth control pills (or maybe dick-hardening pills?).

They should just do themselves and the rest of us a favor by finding new careers. That way, we won'r have to listen to these prima donnas whiiiiiiiine about doing their jobs.......

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