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Fri Jul 3, 2015, 10:55 PM

 

Catholics Are Super Sad Gay Marriage Is Legal Now

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Response to progressiveinnarb (Original post)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 11:06 PM

1. Not ALL Catholics.

There are lots of things Catholics disagree with the Church about. Birth control is probably the biggest one. I honestly don't know any catholic women who HAVEN'T used BC. I'm not gay, but our government isn't ruled by the laws of ANY church! People have to get that in their heads!

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Response to napi21 (Reply #1)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 11:25 PM

3. There are also plenty of divorced Catholics. (eom)

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Response to napi21 (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 4, 2015, 04:23 AM

8. Very true

I dated a Catholic when I was in college and she was on birth control. Sometimes I really wonder if people don't realize that they have the freewill to believe what they want instead of what they are told to believe.

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Response to napi21 (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:19 AM

16. Hot tip: it does not make it better than you don't really believe all the anti gay stuff as long as

 

you also prop up the institution and individuals such as Francis and his Bishops that constantly deliver this anti gay crap. The leadership said terrible things about the SCOTUS decision. Why stand with them at all?
Telling me that you don't really agree with the bigoted parts just tells me you are a hypocrite who is not honest about 'sacred things' and thus is not likely to be honest about other things either. "See, I'm a vegan but I don't agree with Vegan leadership that beef is meat so like most Vegans, I eat beef!!!"

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Response to progressiveinnarb (Original post)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 11:11 PM

2. Unbelievable

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Response to progressiveinnarb (Original post)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 11:26 PM

4. I'm Catholic (well, lapsed) and I'm elated gay marriage is legal.

I'm a big fan of both equality and the separation of Church and State.

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Response to progressiveinnarb (Original post)

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 11:33 PM

5. The annoying minority of Catholics. nt

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Response to onehandle (Reply #5)

Sat Jul 4, 2015, 08:50 AM

9. The entire leadership, the Vatican, Francis, the US Conference of Bishops, the Office of the

 

Doctrine of the Faith. An annoying minority of all the Catholics who set the rules, have the spotlight and claim be in charge.

I would say that if Catholics do not agree with the annoying Francis, they might stop calling him 'Most Holy Father' and all of that even as he spews about gay people being from Satan, even as he hosts events with Family Research Council and NOM.

The fact that you don't believe it but you still want to prop it up and make others hear that hateful crap is not a good thing, it's not better than you don't believe it, it is worse that you stand with them and tell them you believe, then come here and say 'but we are really with you'. Do I trust that? No, I don't.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #9)

Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:03 AM

12. Have your holy wafer and eat it too, I suppose... nt

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Response to uriel1972 (Reply #12)

Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:08 AM

13. That's exactly it. The leadership pronounces hate, then DUers declare that leadership 'annoying'

 

and proclaim that real Catholics support marriage equality but later they will be singing the praises of the Pope and his chorus of Bishops as being world leaders of progressive thought.

US conference of Bishops on equality:
Regardless of what a narrow majority of the Supreme Court may declare at this moment in history, the nature of the human person and marriage remains unchanged and unchangeable. Just as Roe v. Wade did not settle the question of abortion over forty years ago, Obergefell v. Hodges does not settle the question of marriage today. Neither decision is rooted in the truth, and as a result, both will eventually fail. Today the Court is wrong again. It is profoundly immoral and unjust for the government to declare that two people of the same sex can constitute a marriage.

The unique meaning of marriage as the union of one man and one woman is inscribed in our bodies as male and female. The protection of this meaning is a critical dimension of the “integral ecology” that Pope Francis has called us to promote. Mandating marriage redefinition across the country is a tragic error that harms the common good and most vulnerable among us, especially children.....
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/publiccatholic/2015/06/united-states-catholic-bishops-statement-on-gay-marriage-decision/


That poster says 'annoying' as if that absolves it all.

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Response to progressiveinnarb (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2015, 12:11 AM

6. This is a vid from "Catholic.vote" I take it.

The same people who had an ad out back in 2012 insinuating Ann Dunham Obama (a SINGLE mother) would have had an abortion if she would have had a chance. That one didn't work either.

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Response to progressiveinnarb (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2015, 03:20 AM

7. Another former Catholic here.

 

I'm beyond thrilled that gay marriage is legal. Not that I'm gay, although I do have my share of gay friends.

Oh, should I mention that I'm divorced? Because the opponents of gay marriage would have you believe that heterosexual marriages are all wonderful. Hah!

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Response to progressiveinnarb (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2015, 08:59 AM

10. A majority of lay Catholics are pro marriage equality and nominally pro choice.

A majority of lay Catholics are pro marriage equality and nominally pro choice.


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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #10)

Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:12 AM

14. How do they intend to demonstrate that fact? When will they inform Francis? They won't.

 

They will line the streets cheering for him and each cheer legitimizes his bigoted teachings. Unless they make their views known, those views do not really exist.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #14)

Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:55 AM

17. I don't know...I'm not a Catholic...I belong to the United Church Of Christ...

I don't know...I'm not a Catholic...I belong to the United Church Of Christ which has been open and affirming for years.

I do know many Catholics express their disapproval of Catholic doctrine on choice and sexuality by voting for pro marriage equality and pro choice candidates and practicing birth control in their own lives...


As to starting a movement I would suggest Catholics start talking to their priests...

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Response to progressiveinnarb (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:00 AM

11. Some.

 

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Response to progressiveinnarb (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:13 AM

15. Nice smear. NT

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