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hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 11:37 AM Jul 2015

Bubba Watson, PGA pro and owner of the General Lee from Dukes of Hazard tweeted:

bubba watson ?@bubbawatson

All men ARE created equal, I believe that so I will be painting the American flag over the roof of the General Lee #USA
1,007 retweets 1,947 favorites


That's an interesting development, I think.
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Bubba Watson, PGA pro and owner of the General Lee from Dukes of Hazard tweeted: (Original Post) hootinholler Jul 2015 OP
That's cool. bigwillq Jul 2015 #1
a change is going on in the world. believe it. roguevalley Jul 2015 #22
I am NOT religous... sgtbenobo Jul 2015 #51
mr watson just gained a ton of fans! big_dog Jul 2015 #53
Now there is a southern gentleman-like move. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #2
+10000 JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #34
Named "Bubba" too!!! Dustlawyer Jul 2015 #42
Bubba is a really good guy and a great Georgia Bulldog! CottonBear Jul 2015 #64
Awesome enlightenment happening everywhere . Good on him lunasun Jul 2015 #3
Congrats on 6,500 posts!! bigwillq Jul 2015 #4
I knew there was another reason to like Bubba aside ... 11 Bravo Jul 2015 #5
Never had a lesson hootinholler Jul 2015 #10
go bubba!!!!!! spanone Jul 2015 #6
Thumbs up for Mr. Watson tabasco Jul 2015 #7
the owner of the daisy dukes jeans has lengthened them HFRN Jul 2015 #8
Compared to today's "Reality" TV it's bloody Shakespeare. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #15
Lol! Glassunion Jul 2015 #60
This, unfortunately, is true. nt SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #61
I was part of a reality show a year ago; I can assure you its 30% reality. 7962 Jul 2015 #62
Oh no! He's disrespecting television history!!! hunter Jul 2015 #9
I liked him before because he hit the ball from the correct side of the tee tularetom Jul 2015 #11
Oh no, he is definitely on the wrong side of the ball. Fuddnik Jul 2015 #45
He has ONE of them. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #12
How many were left unwrecked? House of Roberts Jul 2015 #14
About 17 left. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #17
In fact, as I recall... NCcoast Jul 2015 #20
Hard to find everywhere. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #21
Interesting... Blue_Tires Jul 2015 #38
And how many police cars did they use up every episode? jmowreader Jul 2015 #52
Turns out he has the first one they ever made jmowreader Jul 2015 #55
I'm a purist. House of Roberts Jul 2015 #13
I know it's only a video game, but awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #18
Good Latrecia Bennett Jul 2015 #16
That was my suggestion ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2015 #19
OK - I will. Fawke Em Jul 2015 #35
Really? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2015 #36
It doesn't matter anymore, the flag or it's image has become so prolific A Simple Game Jul 2015 #56
I believe the flag law makes that distinction as well. 7962 Jul 2015 #63
Yeah, it does if it's done exactly. Fawke Em Jul 2015 #68
It's not a hill. Fawke Em Jul 2015 #67
I do not think it violates the flag code. CBGLuthier Jul 2015 #48
A vehicle is not "disposable." MADem Jul 2015 #50
Vehicles are disposable. Fawke Em Jul 2015 #69
I do not think that a thing that can, with care, last for 100 years is disposable CBGLuthier Jul 2015 #71
Well how 'bout that. calimary Jul 2015 #23
I like the sentiment he is expressing. pennylane100 Jul 2015 #24
As it always should have been. Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #25
Expect to hear he's getting death threats. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #26
Good for him. Arkana Jul 2015 #27
Good on him! n/t xocet Jul 2015 #28
It would be even better had he said "people" (definitely not persons) instead of "men." nt valerief Jul 2015 #29
Perhaps he was quoting the Declaration of Independence? A Simple Game Jul 2015 #59
Here's an idea. Turn the General Lee into the General Grant. backscatter712 Jul 2015 #30
That is cool and kudos to him for it. hifiguy Jul 2015 #31
This makes me smile Gothmog Jul 2015 #32
Good for him. deathrind Jul 2015 #33
Bubba Wawa! moondust Jul 2015 #37
Bravo Mr. Watson! Initech Jul 2015 #39
Bubba Thespian2 Jul 2015 #40
Gotta give him a packman Jul 2015 #41
One more step forward on the journey. nt LWolf Jul 2015 #43
Way to go, Bubba! Enthusiast Jul 2015 #44
What is common between Baltimore, Fergusson, LA & Chicago Riots? golfguru Jul 2015 #46
I happen to believe Bubba to be a class act... mac2766 Jul 2015 #47
surprising development Liberal_in_LA Jul 2015 #49
Another surprising development reported today July 3rd 5:04 PM tencats Jul 2015 #54
Hell I would sell it for that price in a heartbeat! B Calm Jul 2015 #57
Bubba Watson on David Letterman. A must see madokie Jul 2015 #58
Like watching Bubba play golf lark Jul 2015 #65
I was clueless to african american issues as a teen. I did not know applegrove Jul 2015 #66
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #70
 

sgtbenobo

(327 posts)
51. I am NOT religous...
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 12:25 AM
Jul 2015

...never was, never will be. But, upon reading about this my first thought was, "God bless you Bubba." Happy 4th everyone! Maybe this is everyone's country after all.


Carry on, and sleep well Bubba.

CottonBear

(21,596 posts)
64. Bubba is a really good guy and a great Georgia Bulldog!
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:21 AM
Jul 2015

Go Dawgs and go Bubba!

CB, proud to be a Georgia Bulldog!

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
5. I knew there was another reason to like Bubba aside ...
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 11:48 AM
Jul 2015

Last edited Fri Jul 3, 2015, 05:22 PM - Edit history (1)

from his amazing ability to shape his shots!

 

HFRN

(1,469 posts)
8. the owner of the daisy dukes jeans has lengthened them
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 11:51 AM
Jul 2015

as a statement against misogyny

all kidding aside, the greatest offense of that show, is what it did to the IQ of anyone who watched it - it defined the low of lowbrow

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
62. I was part of a reality show a year ago; I can assure you its 30% reality.
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:00 AM
Jul 2015

But you knew that, since you put the word in quotes!

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
11. I liked him before because he hit the ball from the correct side of the tee
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 11:57 AM
Jul 2015

But this more or less cinches it for me.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
45. Oh no, he is definitely on the wrong side of the ball.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 10:30 PM
Jul 2015

With that pink driver.

When I saw that, I knew he wasn't your average yahoo.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
12. He has ONE of them.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 12:05 PM
Jul 2015

There were a few dozen built for the show. It's not a totally unique TV car like the Batmobile, Munster Mobile, Monkee Mobile, and others.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
17. About 17 left.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 12:18 PM
Jul 2015

In dispute the number built...250-320. Each car jumped was retired due to extensive structural damage. They used up a car each episode.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Lee_(car)

NCcoast

(480 posts)
20. In fact, as I recall...
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 01:10 PM
Jul 2015

They damaged so many '69 Dodge Chargers on that show that they became very hard to find in California.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
21. Hard to find everywhere.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 01:16 PM
Jul 2015

They also dressed up some 68s to look like 69s.

A similar thing happened with station wagons. When they were cheap, so many old SWs were destroyed in demolition derbies that now finding a nice survivor is hard. They're also pretty pricey.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
38. Interesting...
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 06:40 PM
Jul 2015

I remembered reading back in the 90s that they needed four cars on average to make an episode -- One was a jump/stunt car, one was a 'nice' car for the close-ups, and the other two were used as needed... And on average they wrecked/ruined/destroyed one car for every episode...

jmowreader

(50,553 posts)
55. Turns out he has the first one they ever made
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 06:45 AM
Jul 2015

His was used in the first episode, and they fixed it up after jumping it over a police car.

The number of GLs they made is in the range of 250 to 320. It's more than "a few dozen," tho.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
35. OK - I will.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 05:45 PM
Jul 2015

Painting the U.S. flag on a car violates the U.S. Flag Code and disrespects the flag.

All these yahoos walking around draped in the flag this weekend are disrespecting it far worse than if they just burned on.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
36. Really?
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 06:24 PM
Jul 2015

I think there's a huge difference between painting or stickering an emblem on a car that's not an actual flag and draping the actual fabric over it or one's self or other inanimate objects.

But whatever, if that's your hill.....

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
56. It doesn't matter anymore, the flag or it's image has become so prolific
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 06:51 AM
Jul 2015

it is to the point of becoming meaningless. It used to be displayed on special occasions and was, maybe because I was younger then, even awe inspiring. Now it is so over used it is almost invisible.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
63. I believe the flag law makes that distinction as well.
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:03 AM
Jul 2015

PAINTING the flag doesnt count as A flag, from the way I read it. Its like wearing a shirt with a flag isnt the same as wearing a flag AS a shirt or top.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
67. It's not a hill.
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 03:15 AM
Jul 2015

It just is.

Damn, read the flag code.

I'm tired of how we claim to be patriotic about shit and are actually desecrating shit.

Wearing the U.S. Flag is a violation of the Flag Code. So is eating off it and using it the festoon things. THINGS.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
48. I do not think it violates the flag code.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 11:30 PM
Jul 2015

It says it must not be printed on anything disposable. Here is a link, see if you can find the part it violates

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Flag_Code

MADem

(135,425 posts)
50. A vehicle is not "disposable."
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 12:15 AM
Jul 2015

Also, if we're to be technical, this is not a "flag," it is a painting of a flag.

Here's a painting of Betsy Ross showing her flag to George, and allowing it to touch the floor...tsk, tsk, Bets~!!!

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
71. I do not think that a thing that can, with care, last for 100 years is disposable
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 03:36 AM
Jul 2015

It most certainly does not fit with the examples cited in the flag code as disposable.

I also like to remind people that the flag code is not in any way law. There is no punishment by the government for any violations of the code.

pennylane100

(3,425 posts)
24. I like the sentiment he is expressing.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 01:47 PM
Jul 2015

I am assuming that the equality also includes women. I know it is petty to mention but I always feet a little left out when the word "men" is used as a generic term for all the people.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
59. Perhaps he was quoting the Declaration of Independence?
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 07:02 AM
Jul 2015

From WikipediA:

The second paragraph of the United States Declaration of Independence starts as follows:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; (bold is mine)

If his intent was to be disrespectful he probably would have left the Confederate flag on the car.

Most people celebrate a victory instead of looking for a negative that probably isn't even there.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
30. Here's an idea. Turn the General Lee into the General Grant.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 02:25 PM
Jul 2015

How about we turn a '69 Charger into the General Grant.

The General Grant would be painted blue, have the American flag on its roof, and the horn would play John Brown's Body.

deathrind

(1,786 posts)
33. Good for him.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 04:55 PM
Jul 2015

But this is a half measure. The cartoon posted yesterday showing the gun looking at the confederate flag saying "someone had to take the fall" sums it up perfectly. But credit to this man for doing this, he didn't have too and doing this is certainly going to get his inbox filled with less than friendly emails.

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
40. Bubba
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 07:41 PM
Jul 2015

a southerner who is an amazing, self-taught golfer...a winner in all senses of the word...

We like Bubba...

 

golfguru

(4,987 posts)
46. What is common between Baltimore, Fergusson, LA & Chicago Riots?
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 11:00 PM
Jul 2015

None of them occurred in confederate states! Could it be race relations are better in formerly confederate south?

 

mac2766

(658 posts)
47. I happen to believe Bubba to be a class act...
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 11:21 PM
Jul 2015

I live in Milton, FL. Literally a stones throw away from Bagdad, FL. I drive through Bubba's home town often and play at the same golf courses he did - and still does from time to time.

He's very generous to the courses to the point of bringing signed memorabilia to them. One of his score cards is being presented at the Tanglewood golf course club house. The man shot a 29 on the front nine there... he's so good.

If he bought the General Lee, it's his car to do with what he wants - in my opinion. I'm just glad to hear that he's doing with it something so wonderful.

The Confederate flag symbolizes a time that no American should ever forget. We should always remember, and we should always be ashamed.

tencats

(567 posts)
54. Another surprising development reported today July 3rd 5:04 PM
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 03:46 AM
Jul 2015

Volo museum wants to buy golfer's 'Hazzard' car with Confederate flag
"Museum owner says he'd spend about $120K for Watson's 'Hazzard' car"
The director of the Volo Auto Museum says his organization wants to purchase Bubba Watson's General Lee 01 car made popular by the iconic television show "The Dukes of Hazzard" before the professional golfer makes good on a promise to paint over the Confederate flag emblazoned on the roof of the...
http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/lake-county-news-sun/news/ct-lns-volo-museum-confederate-flag-st-0704-20150703-story.html

lark

(23,091 posts)
65. Like watching Bubba play golf
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 11:06 AM
Jul 2015

so was afraid that he might be doing something stupid, but no, he's allright after all, so gald. Just shows all rich people aren't total reactionarys, just the ones that make the news most of the time and are greedy assholes and bastards and are working hard to turn the country into a total oligarchy.

applegrove

(118,622 posts)
66. I was clueless to african american issues as a teen. I did not know
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 04:53 PM
Jul 2015

that was a confederate flag painted on the Dukes' car. I did not know how to pronounce the 'n' word when I read it in To Kill A Mockingbird. I pronounced it like the African country Niger. I had never heard the word used before. I did not get that Gone With The Wind characters were in the KKK. But somehow, being that uninformed in Ottawa Canada, we were taught the 'new' history that the American Civil War was not really fought because of slavery but was fought because of state's rights. No how the hell did right wing propaganda make it all the way to early high school history class in Ottawa in 1982 where actual history did not? When did the states' rights explanation start in the USA?

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