Wow - people waving confederate flags at Obama motorcade as they depart Nashville

[kpete]

https://twitter.com/ToluseO/status/616343590978105344/photo/1
http://nashvillepublicradio.org/post/meet-confederate-flag-waving-obamacare-fan-waiting-photo-president

[NuclearDem]

1. Fuck the piece of shit waving the traitor flag next to the USMC flag.

I don't have the words for that fucker disgracing the Marines.

[SunSeeker]

10. +1

[SwankyXomb]

19. Nothing wrong with him that can't be fixed

by a visit from some actual Marines, although I'm sure some of our local Confederate Swastika Apologists will be along to Dixiesplain why he's really a true American.

[AngryAmish]

29. ...

[MADem]

30. Particularly since the Marines and the POTUS have such an intimate relationship.

They guard the WH, they fly MARINE 1 for him, they're "his" official band. It's just a stupid thing to try to suggest; if it came down to the POTUS or those redneck assholes, the USMC has already shown that they're on TEAM POTUS, without question.

It's as stupid as trying to suggest that Red Sox fans are cheering for the Yankees. What it does do is point out--no question--how stupid the moron is waving that USMC flag.

[sufrommich]

2. God,that's just pathetic. Puke. nt

[geek tragedy]

3. Trash waving trash. nt

[shenmue]

18. Yes

[Skittles]

4. LOL

it's like shining a light on cockroaches: they become VERY active

[mmonk]

5. In some, the stupid runs deep.

[PufPuf23]

6. The Ugly Domestic Americans.

So many of us are just not very nice,

[pinboy3niner]

7. Losers on the way to the dustbin of history. nt

[WorseBeforeBetter]

8. Doesn't surprise me. In Johnston County, NC, the KKK...

distributed recruitment fliers...

No one answered the phone number on the flier early Monday evening, but a voicemail greeting stated that America needs to “wake up and smell the coffee” and elaborated on, among other things, the Confederate flag, slave ships, African-Americans and Jews.

At about 10:30 p.m., James Spears, a member of the group returned a reporter's phone call. Spears said the organization will continue to distribute fliers throughout the country until July 1 – and that the KKK isn't a hate group, but standing up for the white race.

Read more at http://www.wral.com/once-again-kkk-uses-fliers-to-recruit-in-central-nc/14745985/#fBBpUPfz2fbf0UGH.99

Cockroaches, indeed.

[Lizzie Poppet]

9. That's the battle flag of an enemy army...near the Commander in Chief.

Open fire!




Yes, I'm joking (having to explain that is what makes DU suck)

[KingCharlemagne]

57. What's truly amazing is that you might get juried and hidden for

a post seemingly advocating violence. Some people really need thicker skins, methinks.

You do have my sympathies, both for the sentiments expressed and for your gracious attempts to explain!

[bullwinkle428]

11. Does anyone need an "Enigma Machine" to deduce the meaning behind this?

[MrMickeysMom]

12. Knuckle Draggers gotta drag...

Them knuckles sure must hurt… just like original thoughts must.

[WinkyDink]

13. Speech is free, but it sure can also be fugly!

[RoccoR5955]

14. This is not an expression of free speech

It's called hate speech.
Please don't forget it!

[WinkyDink]

25. Please don't YOU forget this is the United States. "Hate speech" IS freedom of expression. YOU don't

get to re-define the First Amendment.

[RoccoR5955]

28. Right.

Yeah. Go yell, "Fire" in a crowded theater. See how your freedom of speech holds out there.
Hate speech is NOT free speech, it offends others, and can lead to violence and loss of life, just as yelling, "Fire" in a crowded theater can lead to loss of life.

[earthside]

33. Well, you couldn't be more wrong.

First, on a technical point, it there is an actual fire in a theater and you yell 'Fire!' there isn't anything wrong with that.

But primarily, what you call 'hate speech' is free speech -- thankfully, under the First Amendment, not you, not the government gets to decide what is 'hate speech'.

I have said and written very harsh (and I suppose offensive) things about warmongers, bigots, fascists, etc. ... and I suspect the recipients of those remarks could have characterized them as 'hate speech'.

I don't want anyone censoring me and I will not censor anyone else over the content of their language.

[Calista241]

34. Unless his speech advocates specific harm or directly leads to someone harming someone

Then it's free speech covered by the 1st amendment. Eom.

[RoccoR5955]

35. So bigoted speech which advocates specific harm to a group of people

like the confederate battle flag, is considered hate speech, and should not be covered by the first amendment.
End of story.

[Calista241]

36. The flag, absent any other factors, does not advocate harm to anyone. It's a flag.

Actual confederate flag supporters would tell you it's about "southern pride," or "honoring our ancestors." You may think it's bullshit, i may think it's bullshit, but it's still protected speech.

It's a lot like the crap that Trump is spewing at the moment. He's basically labeling a class of people as criminals and rapists and what not. It's bigoted, he's being a giant douche, but it's still protected speech.

[RoccoR5955]

40. The REAL meaning of the Confederate Flag

From snopes:
The first Confederate national flag was widely disliked for a number of reasons (primarily its aesthetic resemblance to the United States flag and its attendant confusion with the U.S. flag on the battlefield), so on 1 May 1863 the Confederate States of America adopted a new national flag known as “the Stainless Banner,” said by its designer to represent the “supremacy of the white man”:

Our idea is simply to combine the present battle-flag with a pure white standard sheet; our Southern Cross, blue on a red field, to take the place on the white flag that is occupied by the blue union in the old United States flag, or the St. George’s cross in the British flag. As a people, we are fighting to maintain the Heaven-ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race; a white flag would thus be emblematical of our cause.


Read more at http://m.snopes.com/2015/06/28/confederate-flag-history/#4BRkOF0JHxDmxKUW.99


So are you still going to tell me that this is not a racist flag?
Racism is NOT protected speech either!

[Calista241]

44. Racism, for private citizens, is not illegal, much as we would like to make it so.

That's why the KKK can have their farcical marches. It's why Donald Trump can get up on a podium and talk about his ignorance if full view of every television camera within range.

Banning shit does not solve the problem. Educating people and outreach is many times more effective in changing people's attitudes than governmental bans.

[RoccoR5955]

46. Funny, it works pretty well in other countries.

Like European ones.

[Calista241]

49. Lots of shit works in other countries. And Germany has an enormous Nazi problem.

How do you like all those VAT taxes in Europe?

One of the leading political parties in France has racism as a part of their platform.

[onethatcares]

50. what did that

have to do with VAT? I'm just trying to figure that part out.

[RoccoR5955]

53. The VAT taxes in Europe are also what we need in the US

It's just another name for tariffs.

[Ex Lurker]

59. Anything that can be done to one group can be done to another

Everything is offensive to someone, and it's a short step from offensive to defining it as proscribed hate speech.

[Person 2713]

15. Looks like a scene from Two Thousand Maniacs...Obama get out of town!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Thousand_Maniacs!

I never saw the remake 2001 Maniacs
Checking it out maybe

[Go Vols]

16. lol

[Fawke Em]

39. Wish I could upvote this.

I remember it, too.

And...


GO VOLS!

[hatrack]

17. Oh I wish I was in the land of traitors, rattlesnakes and alligators . . . .

Look away.

Good advice.

[KingCharlemagne]

58. LOL - Methinks some people have way too much time on their hands. But, then again, here I

am reading, responding and

[gratuitous]

20. That's just so cute

They think it bothers us as much as taking it off public property bothers them.

[Person 2713]

21. Did Obama's ride have the TN confederate flag license plate on it? Also is that bad fashion sense

or medical needs going on in the photo?

[MADem]

27. He doesn't rent a car you know--his vehicles have DC plates. nt

[jberryhill]

32. Oh man, out of state plates in Tennessee?

Black man in a motorcade?

He must get pulled over by the cops every 50 feet down the road!

[Cha]

22. Was that confederate flag wavin' for "heritage" or racist hate?

[msanthrope]

23. Saltine-Americans. Bless their hearts. nt

[B Calm]

24. Racist rednecks. How proud their parents must be to carry on the family tradition.

[Major Nikon]

54. Their family tree is a wreath

[MADem]

26. Gee, they should sing this to the tune of "I'm a Lumberjack and I'm OK...."

"I'm a racist and that's OK,
My head's up my ass and it'll stay that way!!!"

Too stupid to feel shame, I guess!!!

[Takket]

31. I bet they had other motives

Stated reason for showing up: to display their heritage proudly before the race baiting president.

Actual reason: hoping the motorcade runs over a few chipmunks so they can have dinner tonight.

[prayin4rain]

45. Haha, a little redneck stew is their primary agenda. If they also

get to show off their ignorance while procuring the ingredients, bonus points! !

Seriously though, these people are so embarrassing.

[Fla Dem]

37. His interview at the NPR link was interesting

He'd like to shake Obama's hand and thank him for Obamacare. It helped him and his family.

But it goes downhill from there......

He talks about it being his/our flag. His flag of what? A traitorous region of the United States, whose illegal and traitorous government caused the suffering and death of over 750,000 men in the North and South combined all to support the practice of owning human being and making them slave laborers. A flag that represent a failed military endeavor. A flag that represents losers. He keeps talking about how we need to study history to understand the true meaning of the Confederate "battle" flag. What's there to understand. Southern troops fought under that flag to kill Union troops of the United States of America. That is treason of the highest order.

[Fawke Em]

38. You can find a handful of losers everywhere.

Nashville's urban and pretty Democratic. These folks probably drove over from Marsha, Marsha, Marsha's district.

[Octafish]

41. They did for President Kennedy, too.

Love Field, Dallas, 22 November 1963



Secret Service agents who guarded him in Dallas called him "N... Lover."

[KamaAina]

48. But he wasn't black.

[frylock]

56. THE NAACP'S KENNEDY'S

even back then, the baggers used poor spelling and punctuation.

[eShirl]

42. Huge crowd.

[Uncle Joe]

43. I count five, maybe six in that pic, I wonder if there is a video or expanded pic? n/t

[Hekate]

47. Aw, the Moran Brigade

[SheilaT]

51. This is exactly like those hateful, despicable

bags of shit who spit upon little girls becoming the first black students in public schools.

I sincerely wish displaying the confederate flag were a felony and that people would serve time for displaying it.

This sort of crap is why too many people happily characterize the entire south as being full of racist bigots. I know it's not, but it's hard to tell when this sort of stuff goes on.

[randys1]

52. My natural instinct is to wish I was younger, stonger, bigger, and I would want to

slap a few of them.

Good news is there is only a few of them, the disgusting puke fucks are dying out.

Although a good friend of mine assures me there are plenty of them still around, like this guy




their hero

[frylock]

55. Stay trashy.