How about a little love for Joe?

[luvspeas]

Everybody's slapping Obama on the back right now but the Prez might still be hiding behind the curtains in the East room if Biden hadn't let it slip. I love me some Joe.

[hrmjustin]

1. Absolutely!

[Little Star]

2. I luvs me some Joe Biden too!

[progressoid]

3. Rec!

[Betty Karlson]

4. How about LOTS of love for Joe? eom

[Kingofalldems]

5. Let what slip?

[luvspeas]

7. oops. i thought it was common knowlege...

Obama was not publicly in favor of gay marriage before Biden came out and said this:

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/joe-bidens-gay-marriage-slip-up

You have to hand it to Joe Biden—there aren’t many people who can threaten years of careful triangulating with a few comments the way he can.

GREGORY: You’re comfortable with same-sex marriage now?

BIDEN: Look, I am Vice President of the United States of America. The President sets the policy. I am absolutely comfortable with the fact that men marrying men, women marrying women, and heterosexual men marrying women are entitled to the same exact rights. All the civil rights, all the civil liberties. And quite frankly I don’t see much of a distinction beyond that.

[Stuart G]

6. Yes....for Joe..

[msanthrope]

8. Senator Biden is responsible for Clarence Thomas being on SCOTUS

so while I say yeah let's give Joel lots of love let's not forget our history

[luvspeas]

13. there is more to it than just that...

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/conservatives-blast-biden-role-bork-and-thomas-hearings

In the Thomas hearings, meanwhile, Biden allowed another “smear campaign” – one which “went from partisanship to being very personal,” Calabresi said.

Hausknecht said Biden allowed the Thomas hearings “to degenerate” into “a personal show trial” by letting University of Oklahoma law professor Anita Hill make accusations about alleged improper remarks and actions she attributed to Thomas.

Thomas’s recent autobiography, “My Grandfather’s Son: A Memoir,” accuses Biden of unfair treatment, noting that Biden had promised Thomas “would be considered on the basis of his qualifications alone.”

[msanthrope]

14. you're using Thomas's whining to defend Joe Biden?

the fact is Joe Biden suppress several of Anita Hill supporting witnesses a very different picture of Mr Thomas would have emerged had those women been allowed to testify. even Joe Biden himself has admitted he's made a mistake

[luvspeas]

15. read the link instead of one sentence...

Biden has a long history of fighting conservative supreme court nominees to the point that conservatives hate him. Just because he messed up with Anita Hill AND ADMITS IT only means to me that he is human and that he tries to do the right thing. Not everybody does but it wasn't necessarily with malice. You can't see the forest for the trees.

[msanthrope]

16. ,never said he did it with malice....just sheer arrogance.....

find themselves admitted that he didn't take into account what Clarence Thomas is sexism truly meant for the women women who worked with him and for the country. when you were privileged white senator you get to think that way.

[luvspeas]

17. is your grammar always this bad?

I'm sorry to say that but I have no idea what you are trying to say. You might consider that next time you try to put someone in a no win situation.

[msanthrope]

19. here you can read the thread about me losing my sight

and having to use a speech to text app that isn't always perfect.I will make sure to spank my autocorrect.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026856535

[luvspeas]

22. thank you for the explanation...

I usually don't do that but I really couldn't follow you. I said it because I did want to understand you and I appreciate a good discussion which it had been up until that point. I will keep this in mind in the future.

That said, I think that blaming every foible on white privilege shuts out people who are really trying to learn. Allies are very important to every cause of the oppressed and I feel like people should be given the opportunity to learn from their mistakes.

[BeeBee]

9. Not to take away from Biden, but I seriously doubt that.

I would bet that it was all part of a perfectly orchestrated move.

[Orsino]

10. Right on top of his skis. n/t

[kentuck]

11. excellent point!

Joe started the ball rolling.

[fishwax]

12. I'm glad Joe said it and am happy for what he said.

[jtuck004]

18. Every day and twice on Sunday! K&R n/t

[edhopper]

20. It's a big fucking deal

and Joe was a vocal advocate, before the Pres was.

[d_legendary1]

21. I'll give Joe some dap!