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Panich52

(5,829 posts)
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 10:01 AM Jun 2015

Wall Street And Big Corporations Got What They Wanted – This Time | Dems softening on TAA

MORNING MESSAGE

Dave Johnson
Wall Street And Big Corporations Got What They Wanted – This Time

This fast track push was different, more aggressive, less concerned with how it looked. Facing increasing awareness of the money-corrupted nature of the system and a rising populist movement The Money was much more in-your-face and blatant than the system had been. This wasn’t just the corporations slipping something past the public with no regard to what the public wants; this was about pushing it through with the public engaged in opposition. Old corrupt system: sneaking it through; new corrupt system: pushing it through. This time it is The Money telling Congress to set aside our democratic deliberative process, to pass something that says they – the bodies that represent the people – can’t amend, can’t have extended debate. 

http://ourfuture.org/20150624/wall-street-and-big-corporations-got-what-they-wanted-this-time?utm_source=progressive_breakfast&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=pbreak



House Dem opposition to TAA may be softening. Politico:

"At this point, it looks as if a number of House Democrats who voted against Trade Adjustment Authority when it was linked to fast-track are now open to backing it. Democrats say some labor officials who gave them a pass on the first round are urging them to support it ... If House Democrats vote against TAA and it's defeated a second time - which seems highly unlikely - it would put Obama in the awkward position of deciding whether to sign a fast-track bill without government help [for displaced workers.]"

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/democrats-last-ditch-move-sink-trade-bill-worker-aid-119348.html

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Wall Street And Big Corporations Got What They Wanted – This Time | Dems softening on TAA (Original Post) Panich52 Jun 2015 OP
They need to reject TAA brentspeak Jun 2015 #1
TAA has been in use for decades, what part do you think is a waste? Sunlei Jun 2015 #3
. brentspeak Jun 2015 #5
They got their college class training(benefit)? right? and unemployment benefits. Sunlei Jun 2015 #6
Ds got the worker protection part split off because they though it would kill the fast track part. Sunlei Jun 2015 #2
Think back.... fredamae Jun 2015 #4
American gov. is a 'game' for to many politicans.A game to drain Americans State & Federal funds, Sunlei Jun 2015 #7

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
1. They need to reject TAA
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 10:03 AM
Jun 2015

Both because Obama deserves to be embarrassed for this complete betrayal of the American people, and because TAA is wasted money.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
3. TAA has been in use for decades, what part do you think is a waste?
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 10:12 AM
Jun 2015
Trade Adjustment Assistance (TAA) is a federal program of the United States government to act as a way to reduce the damaging impact of imports felt by certain sectors of the U.S. economy. The current structure features four components of Trade Adjustment Assistance: for Workers, Firms, Farmers, and Communities.

here's more detail=

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_Adjustment_Assistance

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
5. .
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 10:17 AM
Jun 2015
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/06/us/06retrain.html

Job Retraining May Fall Short of High Hopes

By MICHAEL LUO
Published: July 5, 2009

Tens of thousands of laid-off workers like Mr. Hutchins have turned to retraining as a lifeline. Yet for all the popularity of these government-financed programs, there are questions about whether they actually work, even as President Obama’s stimulus plan directs $1.4 billion more to retraining and other services for people who have lost their jobs.

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Nonetheless, a little-noticed study the Labor Department released several months ago found that the benefits of the biggest federal job training program were “small or nonexistent” for laid-off workers. It showed little difference in earnings and the chances of being rehired between laid-off people who had been retrained and those who had not.

In interviews, the authors of the study and other economists cited several reasons that retraining might not be effective. Many workers who have lost their jobs are older and had spent their lives working in one industry. In need of a job right away, many pick relatively short training programs, which often have marginal benefits. Job retraining is also ineffective without job creation, a point made by several economists who have long cautioned against placing too much stock in it. Finally, workers trying to pick a new field cannot predict the future of the labor market, especially in a time of economic upheaval.

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An examination by The New York Times of one group of laid-off workers — 36 people who finished their retraining at Macomb Community College just outside Detroit at about the same time as Mr. Hutchins, from May to August 2008 — found that at least 60 percent appeared either not to be working or to be in jobs unrelated to their training. Several had jobs but then lost them later, according to state wage records and interviews. And a review of wages for several employed workers before and after training showed that almost all had lost ground.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
6. They got their college class training(benefit)? right? and unemployment benefits.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 11:40 AM
Jun 2015

People lose jobs all the time, people have troubles finding and retaining a job.

We shouldn't stop FEDERAL paid Gov.TAA assistance to American workers (even if it is weaksauce assistance) because there is no guarantee of a lifetime of 'well paid work' anywhere in the world.

Congress could raise the Federal minimum wage and ban Corps use of 50 cents an hour, USA prison labor (slavery is legal for prisoners in the USA) and ban the hire of thousands of foreign visa workers...if Congress wanted to. That IS their job.

But this, the worse Congress in history is not for the American workers, at all anymore.


Even republicans said it, they are for Corporations and wealth building.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
2. Ds got the worker protection part split off because they though it would kill the fast track part.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 10:09 AM
Jun 2015

well it didn't kill the fast track part and now hopefully the protection part will be voted back in......republicans may not want American worker protections.

To republicans majority of American workers are in USA 'for profit' prisons for life and 'work' for 20 to 50 cents an hour for many major Corps. They use the 'made in America label!

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
4. Think back....
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 10:14 AM
Jun 2015

PatAct, Sequester, Big Budget Cuts to Ed, Seniors, Vets, Kids, Infrastructure, Unemployment Benefits, Proposals for Chained CPI, No Banksters Prosecuted/Incarcerated, Big Corp Subsidies have not ended, Tax Loopholes STILL Not fixed, The STOCK Act and on and on and on...
When Have Dems NOT Softened after great hope they would stand solid with the people?

They will tell you how awful it is...that they Adamantly Oppose "XYZ"...then they vote FOR it
....and tell Us they had NO Choice even when They were in the Majority.

It's a Flipping Game! Good Cop/Bad Cop.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
7. American gov. is a 'game' for to many politicans.A game to drain Americans State & Federal funds,
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 11:51 AM
Jun 2015

into their "for profit" middlemen pockets.

Cheney and Romney Empires! are only 2 (TWO!!) examples how their game works.


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