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Tue Jun 16, 2015, 08:59 PM

Why is Rachel Dolezal such a massive, nation-wide story?

Television shows lead with her, she trends on social media, Rethugs are obsessed with it - it confounds me. Illuminate me here?

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Reply Why is Rachel Dolezal such a massive, nation-wide story? (Original post)
wheniwasincongress Jun 2015 OP
1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #1
KT2000 Jun 2015 #4
nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #18
FoxNewsSucks Jun 2015 #34
fishwax Jun 2015 #39
spanone Jun 2015 #2
Jane Austin Jun 2015 #3
1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #7
Renew Deal Jun 2015 #5
lovemydog Jun 2015 #6
beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #8
Skittles Jun 2015 #12
beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #13
Skittles Jun 2015 #14
beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #23
Initech Jun 2015 #25
Skittles Jun 2015 #26
Initech Jun 2015 #31
beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #28
Skittles Jun 2015 #33
Skittles Jun 2015 #9
Bok_Tukalo Jun 2015 #10
cali Jun 2015 #24
Renew Deal Jun 2015 #32
Depaysement Jun 2015 #11
aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2015 #15
JanMichael Jun 2015 #16
nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #17
cali Jun 2015 #22
pintobean Jun 2015 #19
cali Jun 2015 #20
Quayblue Jun 2015 #21
chillfactor Jun 2015 #27
RoverSuswade Jun 2015 #30
daleanime Jun 2015 #29
XemaSab Jun 2015 #35
Dorian Gray Jun 2015 #38
ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2015 #36
missingthebigdog Jun 2015 #37
Blue_In_AK Jun 2015 #40
area51 Jun 2015 #41

Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 09:06 PM

1. Because it is an Anti-racial story that ...

 

feeds, both, the racists and the fringes of the liberals ... with the racists laughing at Dolezal and (some) liberals trying to prove their color-blind cred by trying to legitimize the ridiculous.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 09:16 PM

4. +1

Spot on. There are all kinds of imposters but she sure seems to have the media excited.
I did like Larry Wilmore's take on it though. His mime of the snail mail death threat was LOL.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 10:02 PM

18. That is the other half

 

non news item that helps hide real news as well.

And this is one reason why we decided, after ten minutes, to pass on doing even a commentary on it. We did have the debate, since she did lie.

But what other news are being hidden or not covered?

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #18)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 10:52 PM

34. That's what I also think,

the corporate media has 24 hours to fill, and they sure as hell want to avoid talking about SHAFTA.

This Springer-type story is just what they need to keep the American Sheeple distracted.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 17, 2015, 12:35 AM

39. all of that, plus it gives right wingers the chance to ridicule LGBT issues with the silly analogy

to Caitlin Jenner.

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 09:08 PM

2. good question. our media is broken beyond repair. that might be a starter.

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 09:15 PM

3. Chris Hayes tonight.

I am insulted that MSNBC, Chris Hayes and Melissa Harris Perry think that we, their viewers, are interested in thirty minutes of this mixed-up person from Spokane.

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Response to Jane Austin (Reply #3)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 09:23 PM

7. Well, this MSNBC viewer appreciated them allowing her to make her case ...

 

Okay, I'm finished with her now.

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 09:17 PM

5. It's the big lie

With a bit of Jerry Springer style family drama. There's a little bit of octomom-tan mom ridiculousness with an Icarus theme.

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 09:21 PM

6. It's entertaining.

Human interest type stories have always been popular along with the more major stories throughout history.

For me, I've been reading about it here at DU and I find it fascinating reading the thoughts of others.

I'm bored with a lot of the stories or opinions about democratic presidential candidates so far away from the primaries, particularly those that are trying to tell me for whom to vote.

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 09:24 PM

8. Bigots trying to compare her to Caitlyn Jenner.

It feeds the racists and transphobes.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #8)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 09:41 PM

12. the worst part is

it seems that many of them are too stupid to even recognize their own bigotry

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Response to Skittles (Reply #12)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 09:43 PM

13. Yeah the whole "But she chose to be a woman too" argument is getting old.

Some are genuinely ignorant, others are opportunists.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #13)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 09:45 PM

14. they are ALL disgusting

I am with Aerows on this - I expect better on a progressive board - those kind of pathetic nitwits are hard to take

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Response to Skittles (Reply #14)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 10:08 PM

23. I've seen so many posts that should have been hidden and weren't.

No excuse.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #8)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 10:10 PM

25. Yup the bigots are trying to compare transgender with transracial.

It is bullshit and extremely bigoted, and anyone who repeats that lie here immediately goes on my ignore list.

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Response to Initech (Reply #25)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 10:11 PM

26. I won't ignore them

I WILL call them exactly what they are: BIGOTS

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Response to Skittles (Reply #26)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 10:27 PM

31. True, they deserve to be called out.

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Response to Initech (Reply #25)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 10:15 PM

28. For a transphobe it's quite the opportunity.

They get to pretend they're "confused" about the whole thing.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #28)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 10:30 PM

33. yup

they do NOT fool us!!!

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 09:27 PM

9. because stupid people think her story is just like Ms. Jenner's

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 09:38 PM

10. It has all the zeitgeist

Trans, #blacklivesmatter, Internet trending fun for the whole family. It is something silly that can masquerade as something serious. Everyone can participate from learned professors discussing complex issues with identity and culture to Twitter jokesters referencing the ghost of blue dress gold dress past.

It is massive because it is meaningless and we think there is meaning. It is massive because it is novel and perfectly so.

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Response to Bok_Tukalo (Reply #10)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 10:09 PM

24. this

 

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Response to Bok_Tukalo (Reply #10)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 10:29 PM

32. Very well said

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 09:39 PM

11. Can't have white people wanting to be black

I mean imagine Donald Trump black. Wait, that won't work - he'd have to be human first.

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 09:45 PM

15. I watched it for an hour or two, days ago when it was breaking news

Now I immediately switch the channel. I don't understand why the networks, especially MSNBC have glomed on to this story. The woman is kinda nutty and wrong-headed, but i don't think she's consciously the face of evil she's being made out to be. This was essentially Krystal Ball's take on The Cycle and I think she got it right.

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 09:49 PM

16. Post #1 summed it up. It makes the NAACP look bad and validates made up terror stories.

It is sick. This is a small local issue that is being used to demonize anti-racist groups. It has also turned comrades against each other. It is pure institutional a-symmetrical warfare.

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 09:56 PM

17. Because this story

 

which deserved two minutes, is helpful in hiding things that matter. It's getting worst folks.

Ok, I will go as far as to say that MHP did a good job and it did belong in her program.

It is definitely a LOCAL story though.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #17)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 10:07 PM

22. no, i don't think that's remotely it. lots of factors

 

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 10:05 PM

19. It's like going to the circus.

 

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 10:05 PM

20. lots of reasons. I think one of them is the catch me if you can factor

 

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 10:05 PM

21. despite how America likes to pretend race is a non-issue

It is.

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 10:12 PM

27. same here

I am so sick and tired of hearing about her I finally turned the news off...

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Response to chillfactor (Reply #27)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 10:19 PM

30. Today M$nbc led with it so I switched to CNN.

It was THERE TOO. So (please excuse me) I remoted to Fox - and there was Greta talking about it. YE GODS!!!!

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 10:16 PM

29. Because.....

Squirrel!

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 11:08 PM

35. Am I the only one who will cop to genuine interest here?

What does it mean to be black? What does it mean to be white? If someone has a possible drop of black blood, does it give them the "right" to call themselves black? If someone is obviously mostly or entirely white, should they be "forced" to wear that label against their wishes? How much do people have a right to their own identities, and how far can white advocacy really go?

Seems like a lot of people are challenging their own assumptions here, and is that bad? I say no.

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Response to XemaSab (Reply #35)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 11:14 PM

38. I think this is

thoughtful, and a lot of people are questioning their own assumptions. That's a good thing.

But I also think a lot of others are using it as a gotcha moment... sarcastically comparing transgender (specificially Caitlyn Jenner) to this situation. The biggest difference is that Caitlyn hasn't lied about who she used to be. She was Bruce. We all know she was Bruce. End of story.

Rachel, on the other hand, hid and obfuscated her history with false information. She lied about who she was and that makes everyone question who she is and her motives.

Bruce Jenner wasn't always a stand up guy. All that information is out there. But Caitlyn's past is informing who she is now. Rachel was denying her true past and making up a persona that never existed.

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 11:13 PM

36. It's been deemed a sensationally scandal-worthy distraction by our esteemed press. nt

 

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 11:14 PM

37. I think people just have a visceral reaction.

You KNOW what she did is wrong.
You KNOW it is not the same as Ms. Jenner.
But it is hard to articulate why it is wrong, and how it is not the same. It's a challenge.

After much thought, I have concluded that my issue with this is the subtle insinuation that it takes being a white woman to be a successful black woman. . . .

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Wed Jun 17, 2015, 12:43 AM

40. I think she's a diversion.

Something else must be going on that they don't want us to know about.

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Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

Wed Jun 17, 2015, 04:42 AM

41. Because a story about a mentally-ill woman keeps the media from having to run with serious stories.

n/t

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