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kpete

(71,964 posts)
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 10:07 AM Jun 2015

Bernie Sanders: 的 think the Republicans, frankly, have gotten away with murder."

When it came to Clinton’s policy positions, though, he could be merciless. He suggested that her refusal to take a position on the controversial Pacific trade agreement being deliberated in Congress is bewildering. Most progressives are imploring Congress to block the deal the Obama administration is negotiating.

“I don’t understand how on an issue of such huge consequence you don’t have an opinion,” Sanders said.

The Vermonter said he would like to see more than the planned six Democratic primary debates — but he said they shouldn’t just be debates of Democrats. Get Republican contenders on the same stage too, he suggested.

“It’s a good idea to have a group of Democrats and a group of Republicans,” he said. “I think the Republicans, frankly, have gotten away with murder. I think people really do not know what their agenda is.”


http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/politicsnow/la-na-bernie-sanders-media-republicans-20150611-story.html

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Bernie Sanders: 的 think the Republicans, frankly, have gotten away with murder." (Original Post) kpete Jun 2015 OP
that takes courage to say something like that olddots Jun 2015 #1
But she does have an opinion.... JaneyVee Jun 2015 #2
Hillary is the only politician in the country to not take a stance. cali Jun 2015 #3
Smart move. I would wait to read it before taking a stance... JaneyVee Jun 2015 #4
The the SoS during most of the negotiations would have no clue what's in it. jeff47 Jun 2015 #15
+1 daleanime Jun 2015 #19
Not the final draft. JaneyVee Jun 2015 #23
The negotiations were not that far from complete when she stepped down. jeff47 Jun 2015 #29
What current senators have is not meaningful access starroute Jun 2015 #16
+1 daleanime Jun 2015 #20
Smart move - politician. You know the country is not really happy with politicians. That is people jwirr Jun 2015 #18
+1 daleanime Jun 2015 #21
I heard her statement on that but I do not agree for one simple reason. The vote that is happening jwirr Jun 2015 #17
I'm sure her rich corporate buddies have clued her in on the fucking it's going to do to US workers. L0oniX Jun 2015 #37
I like that while Sec Clinton FlatBaroque Jun 2015 #5
VERY acute observation Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #13
What a great point. Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #14
I hadn't thought of that, but you are 100% right. hifiguy Jun 2015 #32
He might be a frontrunner of sorts IronLionZion Jun 2015 #36
Clinton is letting the media do her dirty work Doctor_J Jun 2015 #6
Sorry, we need a Warm Purple Space where we can get all buy partisan and accomplish stuff Fumesucker Jun 2015 #7
That exists only in David Brooks' stunted imagination. hifiguy Jun 2015 #33
K&R Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #8
Oh that would be sweet! To watch our candidates tear the GOP a new one! Rex Jun 2015 #9
It would be taken as proof by the idiot base over at freeperville that Democrats hate america, Volaris Jun 2015 #34
Wow! He's so awesome! marym625 Jun 2015 #10
Lay it on, Bernie! Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #11
Bernie possesses an abundance of courage, truth, and practicality. It's very inspiring. appalachiablue Jun 2015 #12
Like most everything he says, he's got that right! nt valerief Jun 2015 #22
Bernie says what we are all thinking... N_E_1 for Tennis Jun 2015 #24
Ooh, that's gonna leave a mark. Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #25
That's putting it mildly, Senator. Thank you for saying it. johnnyreb Jun 2015 #26
About the most important question of 2015. Orsino Jun 2015 #27
Yes, the GOP needs to be exposed. Sanders has been relentless on how many die from their cuts. n/t freshwest Jun 2015 #28
When you walk the walk, you get to talk the talk Babel_17 Jun 2015 #30
The Republicans have gotten away with murder? gratuitous Jun 2015 #31
WHOA! Dems and repugs on the SAME STAGE? trof Jun 2015 #35
BTTT n/t bobthedrummer Jun 2015 #38
 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
1. that takes courage to say something like that
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 10:15 AM
Jun 2015

and we live in a country of cowardly materialistic babies .

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
2. But she does have an opinion....
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 10:15 AM
Jun 2015

And she's stated it already. If he means a stance, I think she would be better off waiting to read the details before taking a firm position.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
4. Smart move. I would wait to read it before taking a stance...
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 10:23 AM
Jun 2015

Although she has given opinions on it, she also doesn't have access to it like current active senators do.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
29. The negotiations were not that far from complete when she stepped down.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:41 PM
Jun 2015

She won't have every single detail. She'll know the main points of the agreement - it was her job to create them.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
16. What current senators have is not meaningful access
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 11:50 AM
Jun 2015

They can't get copies to study and share with their advisers. They have to go into a room by themselves, wade through the dense legal language without help from anyone who knows what it means, and not even take notes.

And since the whole point of fast track is to push the vote through as soon as the text is released, without allowing analysis or debate, suggesting that she not take a stance until after she's read it is a way of letting her off the hook completely.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
18. Smart move - politician. You know the country is not really happy with politicians. That is people
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 12:00 PM
Jun 2015

who make moves simply to gain votes.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
17. I heard her statement on that but I do not agree for one simple reason. The vote that is happening
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 11:59 AM
Jun 2015

now is the vote that will take away our power to change much of it. If TPA and the Medicare money grab go through today we will have lost the ability to make changes. We can debate it then and vote yes or no but we cannot take any harmful issues out.

Either she does not know this or she wants it and knows it will be harder to stop once they have TPA.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
37. I'm sure her rich corporate buddies have clued her in on the fucking it's going to do to US workers.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 07:53 PM
Jun 2015

FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)
5. I like that while Sec Clinton
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 10:26 AM
Jun 2015

Has surrogates attacking Bernie, he plays the role of frontrunner by attacking Pubes.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
32. I hadn't thought of that, but you are 100% right.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 07:07 PM
Jun 2015

He is taking the fight to the enemy right out of the gate and refuses to be drawn into talking about HRC. Bernie thinks ahead.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
36. He might be a frontrunner of sorts
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 07:44 PM
Jun 2015

since caucuses are often won by the most enthusiastic supporters and having him in the race is a strong pull for everything towards the left

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
6. Clinton is letting the media do her dirty work
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 10:51 AM
Jun 2015

Everyone with a brain knows she's in favor of TPP and every other corporate coup. The media are letting her hide the fact that she agrees with the republicans on most economic issues.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
9. Oh that would be sweet! To watch our candidates tear the GOP a new one!
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 11:03 AM
Jun 2015

O'Malley, Sanders and Clinton could take turns verbally crushing the GOP clown car posse on stage!

Volaris

(10,266 posts)
34. It would be taken as proof by the idiot base over at freeperville that Democrats hate america,
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 07:31 PM
Jun 2015

Or want to feed all Christians to lions or somesuch. If i live in an illogically arranged universe, logical aguments aren't only wrong, they're bigoted against my ignorance.
See how that works?
Frankly, I think its a good idea. What should happen is that the cast of fox news can put questions to the Dems, (so they can be seen for the actual bias Fox posseses), and Rachel Maddow should get to ask the questions put to the Clown Car.
The asswhipping the GOP would take would be truly epic, it would haunt them for years.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
10. Wow! He's so awesome!
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 11:07 AM
Jun 2015

Speaking truth. Who would have thunk it? A Senator!

#FeelTheBern
#Bernie2016

appalachiablue

(41,103 posts)
12. Bernie possesses an abundance of courage, truth, and practicality. It's very inspiring.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 11:18 AM
Jun 2015

Go for it Bernie!

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,664 posts)
24. Bernie says what we are all thinking...
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 12:39 PM
Jun 2015

but with the voice of authority.

I feel that's why the political revolution is taking place.

Real leaders talking our language.

Go Bernie!

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
27. About the most important question of 2015.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:01 PM
Jun 2015

Sec. Clinton's absence is starting to become conspicuous. She should be leading, not waiting until it's safe to follow. She helped negotiate some of this thing. She shouldn't let us take her support of it as read.

From a campaign perspective, it's still early days, but TPP could be a fact in days. Tick, tick, tick.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
30. When you walk the walk, you get to talk the talk
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:40 PM
Jun 2015

Huh, not hard to envision Senator Sanders getting into it with prominent Republicans vis-à-vis quotes in the media (and egged on by the press). He might challenge them to step up to a public forum, with a neutral moderator.

Huh, some lacking in a big campaign might take him up.

Yes, please.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
31. The Republicans have gotten away with murder?
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:46 PM
Jun 2015

Why is Sen. Sanders so obsessed with looking backwards to the past? We should all be looking forward to the future!

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