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boston bean

(36,219 posts)
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:30 AM Jun 2015

My apolitical husband asks me the other day..

"you ever hear of Ron Paul"?

I said, "yeah, why are you asking..", as I'm thinking what a fruitcake Ron Paul is....

He goes on to tell me that he keeps seeing this commercial on TV where Ron Paul tells everyone a new financial crisis worse than 2008 will hit.... And if he's right, basically armageddon..

He was asking because he wanted to know if there was reason for concern and who was this guy, was he believable?

I told him to switch the channel if it comes on again and go on about life as if he never heard that crazy man speak.

Then I went out and found the video, and it's basically one of those advertisements that points you to a web site, where you can learn more... I find this absolutely disgusting that someone makes a video to take advantage of peoples fears to make money.

I don't want to post a link to it, but if you want to go find it, just type in the google.. Ron Paul TV commercial.



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My apolitical husband asks me the other day.. (Original Post) boston bean Jun 2015 OP
I haven't seen it but I can imagine it's pretty shrill. lovemydog Jun 2015 #1
Yeah, he's selling videos... to "learn more"... boston bean Jun 2015 #2
Gold bug rogerashton Jun 2015 #3
I hate those scams DFW Jun 2015 #9
That ad has been coming up on MSNBC fairly often. Vinca Jun 2015 #4
Any time you see that kind of ad - on TV, in print, on the internet - the person shilling it djean111 Jun 2015 #5
To be using his past position as a congressman who spent 20 some odd years in Washington boston bean Jun 2015 #7
I think this must be his retirement plan. Or he is part-owner of the group he is shilling for. djean111 Jun 2015 #11
exactly... nt boston bean Jun 2015 #12
Let me take a wild guess: BUY GOLD!!!!!!! Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #6
Believe it or not, it really doesn't.... boston bean Jun 2015 #10
I hear that. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #14
Right.. boston bean Jun 2015 #15
Congrats! Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #17
Love that you obsessively research the dog catcher candidates bettyellen Jun 2015 #16
The internet definitely helps. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #18
"just type in the google.. Ron Paul TV commercial." RandiFan1290 Jun 2015 #8
I didn't think many people would boston bean Jun 2015 #13
Your apolitical husband?! KamaAina Jun 2015 #19

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
1. I haven't seen it but I can imagine it's pretty shrill.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:38 AM
Jun 2015

I assume he's trying to sell a book or something even more expensive at the web site?

So many weird commercial that play on people's worst fears.

There's one on the radio that says they'll help you reduce or consolidate your credit card debt. I think it's sponsored by credit card companies.

Ever notice all those kinds of commercials have some name like Liberty or Freedom or Mutual of blah blah or American blah blah or something. The most friendly & benign sounding names are the ones that seem to be screwing people the most.

rogerashton

(3,920 posts)
3. Gold bug
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:57 AM
Jun 2015

I haven't found a link I would want to post, but Paul has been a shill for companies that sell "investments" in gold for years. He has put his money where his mouth is, i.e. put his own money in gold, and apparently lost a lot as a result. All this is consistent with his political fantasy, that "government is debasing the currency," but he may be getting a bit desperate to cover his losses. That is only my conjecture, please note.

About the word "mutual." Real financial mutuals are the property of the depositors, and ideally run in the interests of the depositors -- on the whole, a good thing. However, over the last 30 years or so, some big ones have been "demutualized," sold out as for-profits, and some of those have been very aggressive. "Washington Mutual," WaMu, which collapsed in 2008, was one of these demutualized financials -- unfortunately, there is no truth in labeling law for banksters.

DFW

(54,302 posts)
9. I hate those scams
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 07:23 AM
Jun 2015

They buy gold coins from Heritage in Dallas all the time. Heritage doesn't fool with bullion like Krugerrands or gold bars, but they do handle old gold coins. The marketers then sell the things for some crazy mark-up to people to whom they have beem telling for decades that the paper dollars and the stock market will vanish ANY DAY NOW into smoke, so they had better stick up on gold RIGHT AWAY, and preferably, from them. They buy the coins from Heritage at fair market wholesale, and then mark them up 75% or more and then sell them as investments, which means the poor suckers have to wait for the gold market to go up 75% for them to break even. Try investing in the stock market based on the Dow at 31,500 and see how long it takes you to recoup your investment.

I know Ron Paul has been pushing for a return to the gold standard, but it's one thing to tout an antiquated system, and quite another to be a shill for scam artists feeding off people who believed in him and are then cheated out of 45% of their investment the second they buy it.

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
4. That ad has been coming up on MSNBC fairly often.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 07:03 AM
Jun 2015

I was tempted to go to the site and see what schlock he was pimping, but I was afraid I'd suddenly start getting bizarre pop-ups and email. I definitely don't want Ron Paul's puss following me around the Internet.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
5. Any time you see that kind of ad - on TV, in print, on the internet - the person shilling it
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 07:18 AM
Jun 2015

will save YOU, the discerning and savvy lucky person, for only $139.00, no, wait! for the next ten minutes! Only $99.99! then if you close the screen - no, wait! Wait! only $59.99! Or if you call a number, I suspect there will be someone whose only mission in life is to get your credit card number.

Always, there is a newsletter to buy, with additional special reports. Or coins to invest in, etc.
The people who would really know that this is going to happen are privately feathering their nests, building their arks, preparing to take advantage of everybody else. Because they engineered it.

boston bean

(36,219 posts)
7. To be using his past position as a congressman who spent 20 some odd years in Washington
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 07:21 AM
Jun 2015

is a on a bit of a different level than the guy trying to sell juice machines...

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
11. I think this must be his retirement plan. Or he is part-owner of the group he is shilling for.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 07:25 AM
Jun 2015

Makes him no better than Sir Weeps-a-Lot from GlennBeckistan.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
6. Let me take a wild guess: BUY GOLD!!!!!!!
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 07:20 AM
Jun 2015

I'm just sort of shocked that your husband is apolitical--- it's clearly front and center for you. How does that work? I mean, I would think it comes up all the time.

boston bean

(36,219 posts)
10. Believe it or not, it really doesn't....
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 07:23 AM
Jun 2015

But I do know he votes democratic...

He's just not interested in discussing it much... I guess that's why I post on the DU! LOL

Maybe DU has helped my marriage! hahahahahahaha

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
14. I hear that.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 07:49 AM
Jun 2015

My wife and I know we're in general agreement on just about 99.99% of everything political, so at this point those conversations are kind of moot. Plus- the importance of this can't be overstated- the local paper here is pretty much useless, down to 3 days a week delivery of almost nil content. So politics don't come up, like, at the dinner table unless there's a big story or a GOP columnist with a particularly egregious piece of asshaterry on the opinion page.

Plus neither of us are nearly as strident, or pissed off, as we were during the Bush years. I think we got burned out.

She started off farther to the right and I was farther to the left (not by much; I remember we had a big fight over the merits of a SPHC system back in 2002 or so) than we both are now, we've sort of met in the middle with age.

Invariably she knows she will vote for the D in the big elections, but I'm the one who is obsessive enough to research the dog catcher candidates for us, or figure out which folks running for the school board are using code words that flag them as a stealth religious right plant.

boston bean

(36,219 posts)
15. Right..
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 07:53 AM
Jun 2015

For something to penetrate his bubble, I know it's got to be reaching a lot of people... that was my reason for posting.. Every once in a while I'll ask him if he's heard something or other... and if so, use it as a barometer as to how many people are thinking about something... Because I think most people are like him!

If he was a republican, we probably wouldn't have made it past the first year... Going on 23 years now, this October.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
16. Love that you obsessively research the dog catcher candidates
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 08:12 AM
Jun 2015

Where I am the local scene is so complicated-awash in corruption with pols switching alliances and doing back door deals I don't always have time to keep up. Lots of good people get greedy and turn corrupt. I have a rabid friend I check with before voting for school board and such.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
18. The internet definitely helps.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 05:27 PM
Jun 2015

But yeah, the religious right school board thing comes to mind because I totally spotted one this last round.

Last thing either of us wants is creationists mucking around with the science curriculum.

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