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Thu Jun 11, 2015, 10:48 AM

How trustworthy are electronic voting systems in the US? Beth Carlson, PhD, Kansas mathematician

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Beth Clarkson is a Kansas mathematician suing Kansas Sec. of State Kris Kobach for paper tapes from electronic voting machines. She found statistical anomalies in voting patterns in the last Kansas general election results.

Link:
http://bethclarkson.com/?page_id=46&paged=2

Quote:

Iíve recently written an article for the Royal Statistical Society on the trustworthiness of US voting systems. Here is an excerpt:

My statistical analysis shows patterns indicative of vote manipulation in machines. The manipulation is relatively small, compared with the inherent variability of election results, but it is consistent. These results form a pattern that goes across the nation and back a number of election cycles. Iíve downloaded data and verified the results from several states for myself. Furthermore, the manipulation is not limited to a single powerful operator. My assessment is that the data reveals multiple (at least two) agents working independently to successfully alter voting results.

Youíll find the article in its entirety, here:
http://www.statslife.org.uk/significance/politics/2288-how-trustworthy-are-electronic-voting-systems-in-the-us


Today she posted this on her blog:
"Iíve gotten a number of inquiries regarding my lawsuit, what was up or if anything was happening. I went to the courthouse today to check. Kobachís office has yet to file a response. So, currently, nothing happening.

Iím working on not taking it as a personal rejection."



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Reply How trustworthy are electronic voting systems in the US? Beth Carlson, PhD, Kansas mathematician (Original post)
sketchy Jun 2015 OP
deathrind Jun 2015 #1
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sketchy Jun 2015 #7
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sketchy Jun 2015 #10
IDemo Jun 2015 #17
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Response to sketchy (Original post)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 10:54 AM

1. They are not trustworthy.

the HBO show a couple years ago showed clearly how easy it is to hack them. If only that guy had had a chance to testify before his plane crashed...

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Response to deathrind (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 11:06 AM

2. +1000

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Response to deathrind (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 11:06 AM

3. They are currently working on modifying another plane for the good professor.

For some reason they will want him to fly from Wichita to Topeka.

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Response to -none (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 11:43 AM

8. She's a she btw. nt

 

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Response to deathrind (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 11:11 AM

5. Yes, Michael Connell

Link to article about this:
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/12/22/republican_it_specialist_dies_in_plane

Quote:
"A top Republican internet strategist who was set to testify in a case alleging election tampering in 2004 in Ohio has died in a plane crash. Michael Connell was the chief IT consultant to Karl Rove and created websites for the Bush and McCain electoral campaigns. Michael Connell was deposed one day before the election this year by attorneys Cliff Arnebeck and Bob Fitrakis about his actions during the 2004 vote count in Ohio and his access to Karl Roveís email files and how they went missing."

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Response to deathrind (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 01:04 PM

11. Yep. That was Rove's buddy.

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Response to kairos12 (Reply #11)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 09:12 PM

24. There are no "friends"

 

in The Mob, just sometimes useful temporary allies.

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Response to deathrind (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 01:35 PM

14. Funny (not haha) isn't it?

Everytime anyone gets close to the real truth about a Repug, especially if it's a Bush involved, the person dies. I would be very careful if I was her.

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Response to sketchy (Original post)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 11:06 AM

4. Several years ago, then SOS of Ohio Jennifer Brunner was quoted in the Dispatch as saying.....

 

...our electronic voting machines were easily hackable. Unfortunately she left that office two years later, mid term, to run for another public office. She lost that bid before ever correcting the problem with the machines! I called her office shortly after the article ran and volunteered as a poll worker to help in any way possible. I called back about every two months and finally one of her aides told me that things just really move slowly in government! I was so disgusted. I always vote on paper and have resigned from any election poll work. What is the point!

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Response to sketchy (Original post)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 11:18 AM

6. Gov. McAuliffe proposed $28m to replace the paperless ones here in Va.

Not sure what happen to that proposal.

I tried to vote in the Republican primaries on Tuesday but my precinct, which usually has touch screen voting, only had paper ballots that went into a scanner. They did allow for write-ins (Josh Duggar and Dennis Hastert) so I cast a blank ballot.

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Response to sketchy (Original post)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 11:37 AM

7. It's left to alternative media outlets to publicize this

It's about who holds governmental power, and if they really actually won their elected offices.

Attention must be paid -- somehow.

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Response to sketchy (Original post)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 11:46 AM

9. One interesting finding--she believes there is also a

 

blue shift in some locations, meaning someone is hacking to increase the Democratic vote.

Maybe that's what it will take to get the RepubliCons interested in this problem.

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Response to Damansarajaya (Reply #9)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 11:51 AM

10. That is very interesting

And it may be just the spur to interest "our friends across the aisle."

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Response to Damansarajaya (Reply #9)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 02:15 PM

17. They tend to blame that on busloads of immigrants

who are brought over the border under an invisibility cloak to cast votes for Democrats.

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Response to IDemo (Reply #17)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 03:30 PM

18. HAH! good one nt

 

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Response to Damansarajaya (Reply #9)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 04:34 PM

20. There was definately Voter Suppression in the Arkansas Democratic Primary,

.....favoring Blanche Lincoln.
Bill Halter's strongest district had 42 polling stations reduced to two on the day of the runoff.

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Response to sketchy (Original post)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 01:30 PM

12. I believe this will spark a massive rebellion...

For decades we've seen crap-ass policies enacted that favor the corporations and plutocrats. We've had election after election and the same doofuses are elected time and time again, and the crap-ass policies continue.

Many of us suspect election malfeasance, but to date it hasn't been proven. Still, the attack on the middle class, the working class, the poor, the aged--on education, health care, unions, the environment--on women, minorities, immigrants continue.

If Wikileaks, Anonymous, or any hactivist should release documentation proving election theft, then all Hell will break loose.

And it won't be pretty.

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Response to sketchy (Original post)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 01:33 PM

13. bookmarked

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Response to sketchy (Original post)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 01:38 PM

15. So this is what our US "democracy" has come to?

 

which party can out-hack the other?

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Response to sketchy (Original post)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 01:43 PM

16. I think if there is absolute proof that elections were stolen

nothing will happen. there will be noises from Washington and anemic legislation will pass that will do little and not address the problem or problems like anti-voter laws.
Too many sheep here that don't want to think America is not the beacon of freedom.

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Response to sketchy (Original post)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 03:39 PM

19. ^

 

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Response to sketchy (Original post)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 08:28 PM

21. The fact that Democratic leadership isn't making a huge public deal about this is very telling.

 

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Response to Scuba (Reply #21)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 09:06 PM

23. And where are the investigative reporters when you need them?

Kris Kobach hasn't responded to her lawsuit yet, and he knows America won't hear about that on the news.

Kudos to the few newspaper reporters who have covered this story.

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Response to sketchy (Original post)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 08:31 PM

22. Science? Pshaw.

 

No repuke believes in science. They put their trust in the Kochtopus, jebus and Diebold.

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Response to sketchy (Original post)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 10:17 PM

25. kick n/t

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