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kentuck

(111,071 posts)
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 02:14 PM Jun 2015

The best president in the history of the world cannot fix the problems without you...

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2015/06/07/sanders-call-political-revolution-about-mass-movement-not-me

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"This is not about Bernie Sanders," the candidate said to the room filled beyond capacity. "You can have the best president in the history of the world but that person will not be able to address the problems that we face unless there is a mass movement, a political revolution in this country. Right now the only pieces of legislation that get to the floor of the House and Senate are sanctioned by big money, Wall Street, the pharmaceutical companies. The only way we win and transform America is when millions of people stand up as you’re doing today and say. 'Enough is enough. This country belongs to all of us and not a handful of billionaires.'"

The fight ahead, he told the crowd, "Is about you."


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The best president in the history of the world cannot fix the problems without you... (Original Post) kentuck Jun 2015 OP
Recommended. H2O Man Jun 2015 #1
Here's to hoping that the Democratic candidate in 2016 inspires that movement. bluesbassman Jun 2015 #2
Outstanding! Bernie doesn't miss a thing. He's covering all the bases. Gregorian Jun 2015 #3
I am for fighting on but it's an uphill fight. It's bad enough to have to fight the billionaires rhett o rick Jun 2015 #4
I think DU is guilty of sometimes naively believing.... kentuck Jun 2015 #5
What is strange is, if they believe that any Democrat can bring change they rhett o rick Jun 2015 #7
The fear of losing their power is their only incentive to change... kentuck Jun 2015 #10
Again it's my opinion that the Democratic Party Leaders would rather lose the rhett o rick Jun 2015 #12
In my opinion, it is more important to fight this battle and lose than... kentuck Jun 2015 #13
I agree and wish everyone, at least here, would also agree. nm rhett o rick Jun 2015 #17
repukes never seem to have a problem getting what they want Skittles Jun 2015 #23
Yup. SoapBox Jun 2015 #6
+1 a whole bunch! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #9
"Democrats that don't understand (willful denial)" < Is it jtuck004 Jun 2015 #18
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #8
this is what we will get retrowire Jun 2015 #11
The Difference Is - Bernie Is A Candidate Worth Fighting For - The Corporations Be Damned cantbeserious Jun 2015 #14
Interesting, so he's admitting that treestar Jun 2015 #15
Lame Response - There Is A Difference Between Fighting And Not Fighting At All - Sound Familiar cantbeserious Jun 2015 #16
We have to help kacekwl Jun 2015 #19
I think political realities and unexpected crisis slipped up on Barack Obama... kentuck Jun 2015 #21
I'm not necessarily blaming kacekwl Jun 2015 #22
And half-ass mediocre ones can't either, no matter how much people believe. n/t jtuck004 Jun 2015 #20

bluesbassman

(19,367 posts)
2. Here's to hoping that the Democratic candidate in 2016 inspires that movement.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 02:27 PM
Jun 2015

My money's on Sanders to do that.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
3. Outstanding! Bernie doesn't miss a thing. He's covering all the bases.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 02:50 PM
Jun 2015

We finally have an adult in politics. One of the few, at least.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
4. I am for fighting on but it's an uphill fight. It's bad enough to have to fight the billionaires
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 02:51 PM
Jun 2015

but when you find your own party leaders siding with the billionaires, you know you have a fight on your hands. There are grass root Democrats that don't understand (willful denial) that we need a drastic change. We are headed for an iceberg and some don't even want to slow the ship down, let alone change directions. Authoritarians love the comfort of a very dominate leadership. They don't feel comfortable with democracy.

The Third Way says, "If we give you a little social justice, will you let us rape the economy, spy on everyone, and kill at will in the middle east.?"

kentuck

(111,071 posts)
5. I think DU is guilty of sometimes naively believing....
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 03:33 PM
Jun 2015

...that any Democrat elected President can bring about the change we need. It is encouraging to have one candidate at least discuss the reality that it will take a mass movement. Simply putting a popular politician into the office without that recognition or support is simply continuing the decline.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
7. What is strange is, if they believe that any Democrat can bring change they
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 04:08 PM
Jun 2015

would support Sanders because IMO the whole party will support him. But IMO the power structure of the Democratic Party is under the control of big money. They would rather lose the general than to let an honest progressive win. Those of the grass-roots that follow the Party power structure are afraid of anything other than the status quo. They must have life pretty good to turn their back on those living in poverty in America. I have asked them countless times how HRC is going to change this mess and they never respond. Never discuss issues unless very specific social issues.

kentuck

(111,071 posts)
10. The fear of losing their power is their only incentive to change...
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 04:14 PM
Jun 2015

There is no fear in the present political structures, in my opinion. A politician that doesn't understand the power of the people to make changes is useless, no matter how full of optimism or political rhetoric they might be. To simply put someone into the Presidency for any other reason, Democrat or Republican, is a waste of our time.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
12. Again it's my opinion that the Democratic Party Leaders would rather lose the
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 04:27 PM
Jun 2015

general than let a progressive win the primary. The billionaires have enough power to keep Sanders out. But I am going to fight for him all the way.

kentuck

(111,071 posts)
13. In my opinion, it is more important to fight this battle and lose than...
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 04:34 PM
Jun 2015

...to win the battle and continue the destructive path we are on. If we can lay the foundation for change, then that will be a victory in itself, in my opinion, and necessary for the people to take back their democracy from the oligarchy.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
6. Yup.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 04:08 PM
Jun 2015

Another reason we need that grass roots, across America, in every single election (even if it's for a Librarian position)...to vote the bums out.

Come on America...put down the cell phone and...GOTV!

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
18. "Democrats that don't understand (willful denial)" < Is it
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 05:11 PM
Jun 2015

that they are practicing willful denial of conditions, or others pretending they are Democrats, but seemingly too cowed or comfortable to do anything else?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
15. Interesting, so he's admitting that
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 04:42 PM
Jun 2015

Congress has something to do with it and he won't be able to do much without Congress. I thought he was going to "fight?" You know, fight Congress if it won't go along. LOL.

kacekwl

(7,016 posts)
19. We have to help
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 05:12 PM
Jun 2015

not just Bernie but ourselves. See what happened last 2 times , we elected hope and change and then sat back and waited. Can't wait again have to act.

kentuck

(111,071 posts)
21. I think political realities and unexpected crisis slipped up on Barack Obama...
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 05:30 PM
Jun 2015

...before the election.

The crash of the banks and Wall Street were never anticipated in the build-up of the campaign. It was very late in the campaign when he discovered there were immediate problems in front of us.

He thought it more important to find someone to try and fix the problems, instead of trying to build a consensus for obvious needed changes. In hindsight, we may see that as a failure of this President? He took a sure and cautious path. Some might have wished that he had been more like Bernie Sanders?

kacekwl

(7,016 posts)
22. I'm not necessarily blaming
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 08:22 PM
Jun 2015

Obama . I'm blaming all of us myself included for sitting on the side letting it happen.

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