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Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 04:02 AM Jun 2015

FBI infiltrates defense team, causes new delay in 9/11 trial

FBI attempts to infiltrate one of the defense teams in a Guantánamo Bay trial related to the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, has led to the second straight cancellation of pretrial hearings at the controversial island prison, putting the case on pause until at least August of this year. The issue has brought the legal system there, which is a mix of civilian and military courts, to a standstill. As a result, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and the other four accused 9/11 plotters haven't been in court since February.

The issue of intrusion by federal agents took center stage in April of 2014, when an FBI employee approached and attempted to recruit as an informant a member of the legal team of Ramzi bin al-Shibh, one of the five co-defendants in the death-penalty case. After the surreptitious questioning came to light, the military judge ordered an investigation into whether any or all of the defense teams had been compromised, and if a conflict of interest had been created as a result of the FBI's meddling.

Now, more than a decade after the defendants were captured, a trial is nowhere in sight. By way of contrast, a civilian court recently tried, convicted, and sentenced Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, one of the two Boston Marathon bombers, within two years of the attack.

Barack Obama’s administration initially planned to try the 9/11 case in a civilian court in New York City, but balked under political pressure from Senate Republicans and New York City mayor Mike Bloomberg, and returned the proceedings to Guantánamo Bay. That decision has resulted in a seemingly endless parade of complications and delays.

http://america.aljazeera.com/blogs/scrutineer/2015/6/5/fbi-infiltrates-defense-team-causes-new-delay-in-911-trial.html

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FBI infiltrates defense team, causes new delay in 9/11 trial (Original Post) Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 OP
"The legal system there". delrem Jun 2015 #1
What's amazing... Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #2
That is absolutely boneheaded jberryhill Jun 2015 #3
It's funny Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #6
Well I hope they disbar the guy that went along with it jberryhill Jun 2015 #9
Whaddya know? The Republicans were right gratuitous Jun 2015 #4
They are above the law. I strongly suspect that infiltrating defense teams is SOP and has GoneFishin Jun 2015 #5
I wouldn't be surprised. Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #7
Shameful, exceptionally shameful. JEB Jun 2015 #8

delrem

(9,688 posts)
1. "The legal system there".
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 05:51 AM
Jun 2015

What a disgrace.

Look, you bunch of kidnapping torture murderers, you don't run a "legal system".

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
2. What's amazing...
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 07:17 AM
Jun 2015

Is the FBI's lawlessness creeps out the military lawyers and the military judge.

Truly out of control.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
3. That is absolutely boneheaded
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 09:27 AM
Jun 2015

They expected a lawyer to go along with this idea?

"Um, sure, I'll be glad to help you out. Just give me a moment to tear my license to practice into tiny shreds and flush it down the toilet first."

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
6. It's funny
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 10:37 AM
Jun 2015

They approached one lawyer, he told the group, turns out another of the group admitted he was already snitching

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
9. Well I hope they disbar the guy that went along with it
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 11:06 AM
Jun 2015

That second lawyer did exactly the correct thing.

That first one is an idiot. There are two ethical rules that apply to that sort of situation:

1. Don't do anything wrong.

and

2. If you do something wrong, don't tell anyone.

Heh.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
4. Whaddya know? The Republicans were right
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 09:35 AM
Jun 2015

They've been saying all along that we can't try these men under our Constitution; and I thought it was because they didn't think our justice system was good enough to get to the truth under our rules of evidence and procedure. Instead, it's because the prosecution has so bungled and compromised their case that it should be thrown out of any respectable court of law.

There really and truly is no way the United States can secure a conviction of these men that isn't tainted by official misconduct, unconstitutional delays, and breaches of internationally recognized rights of the accused. We are left with no choice but to duplicate some of the worst excesses of the deplorable Stalin and Mao regimes.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
5. They are above the law. I strongly suspect that infiltrating defense teams is SOP and has
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 09:36 AM
Jun 2015

occurred in other prominent trials.

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